George Long?

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While I may think some of the players are shit , some of the players we had where shit ,
Let's be right here I ve been following United man and boy ,
and there's always been a scapegoat .
In Sir Daves time it was mostly Beesley and Gannon .
In more recent times its varied from Quinn , to Cresswell , Monty , Porter , Sammon ( alright give ya that one ) to Long , next week it'll be another player .
Myself personally with the exception of 2 players I wouldn't boo any Blade playing in our shirt , the cunt curren and givens being the only exceptions .
People have there views , my view is to back the players putting on the shirt , who working hasn't
had a shit day in work .
Thats not to say people are excempt from criticism ,
Some fans have there way of showing it , I have my own .
While there is problems facing our club I'd rather support them helping em through the bad spell they may be going through .
Clapper , clapper , some may say , I say supporter , supporter .
Some will disagree they have that right .
But I as always say UTB .
 
Think he was on the bench for the Tan my Arse salon Trophy. Seem to remember he's good on Pens.
 
S20Eddie said:
So who's fault is that then?.....the player? the manager? or the board?......oh it must be the player coz he must deliberately go out to have a bad game and keep us in this league......ffs get a grip......as much as I love Sheff Utd and would back any fan in a corner the majority are fucking fickle arseholes.......here's a rather radical idea, how's about supporting the team, fuck the constant negativity and ironic cheers when something goes right......players don't need to be told by 20000 people that they have fucked up, they know, its how they respond to it which makes them better. Playing with fear of your own fans does fuck all to help the situation.
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...he's still shit.
 
dublin 10 blade said:
While I may think some of the players are shit , some of the players we had where shit ,
Let's be right here I ve been following United man and boy ,
and there's always been a scapegoat .
In Sir Daves time it was mostly Beesley and Gannon .
In more recent times its varied from Quinn , to Cresswell , Monty , Porter , Sammon ( alright give ya that one ) to Long , next week it'll be another player .
Myself personally with the exception of 2 players I wouldn't boo any Blade playing in our shirt , the cunt curren and givens being the only exceptions .
People have there views , my view is to back the players putting on the shirt , who working hasn't
had a shit day in work .
Thats not to say people are excempt from criticism ,
Some fans have there way of showing it , I have my own .
While there is problems facing our club I'd rather support them helping em through the bad spell they may be going through .
Clapper , clapper , some may say , I say supporter , supporter .
Some will disagree they have that right .
But I as always say UTB .
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Spot on.

Booing your own goal keeper is particularly moronic.

This is someone that you need to play well for you. Best case, it doesn't affect his already fragile confidence and decisiveness, more likely case is that it makes things worse. Thus it greatly increases the chances of losing the game. You may as well cheer th opposition on.

I spoke to someone who boo'd him the other day, Had no rationale or defence for it. I concluded that he was an idiot.
 
George has made mistakes this season that have been well documented, but so has every player in the team so far.
If you were really inclined to do so, it could be argued that Moore ought to have done better with the first goal against Millwall which was a shot from outside the area across the keeper to the far corner and against Oxford when he parried a shot from outside the area straight to an attacker. Not a theory I subscribe to, but I wonder what the reaction to those two incidents would have been if Long had done them? I think we know the answer.

Long might yet make a decent keeper, but not a BDTBL, not least because he'll never get a chance with some fans.
I think that has become quite clear after the Bolton game when there were demands for him to go minutes after the final whistle after conceding a goal that most keepers would not have stopped, and the ironic cheers in his last game.

Probably best for George to move on, but that does leave us with an untried keeper as backup who just might not be any better.
 
It's a lonely place being a goalie at the best of times...good luck getting your career back on track George, you need to spend a bit of time at a less stressful place and level. Too much too young
 
Jord_Blade said:
...he's still shit.
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I would like to congratulate you on your constructive response, it makes me so proud that I share a terrace/stand with such a knowledgeable Blade as yourself......I rest my case.
 
Get the lad a proper coach. I think the potential is there.
He needs better command of his area.....he's what, 6'3" - 6'4" & pretty bulky,any ball in the air is his for the taking.
Also he should be more vocal by now. George's played about 100 first team games so there's no need for the shrinking violet bit even though he's still relatively young. He's been at The Lane a lot longer than any of the back four so he has no reason to back down from dishing out instructions to any of them.
I know confidence is a big thing, it's the same for any player & some sections of the matchday crowd don't help (..fans fault :rolleyes:) but it's time he started to show whether he can handle first team football at a club where expectations are higher than the current predicament.
 
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dublin 10 blade said:
While I may think some of the players are shit , some of the players we had where shit ,
Let's be right here I ve been following United man and boy ,
and there's always been a scapegoat .
In Sir Daves time it was mostly Beesley and Gannon .
In more recent times its varied from Quinn , to Cresswell , Monty , Porter , Sammon ( alright give ya that one ) to Long , next week it'll be another player .
Myself personally with the exception of 2 players I wouldn't boo any Blade playing in our shirt , the cunt curren and givens being the only exceptions .
People have there views , my view is to back the players putting on the shirt , who working hasn't
had a shit day in work .
Thats not to say people are excempt from criticism ,
Some fans have there way of showing it , I have my own .
While there is problems facing our club I'd rather support them helping em through the bad spell they may be going through .
Clapper , clapper , some may say , I say supporter , supporter .
Some will disagree they have that right .
But I as always say UTB .
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just to say it wasn't givens who was the cunt it was mathews who turned his back on the penalty
 
Bill puntin said:
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just to say it wasn't givens who was the cunt it was mathews who turned his back on the penalty
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Our ex Arsenal man , did indeed turn away , but being an international footballer , doesn't excuse his pass back to the keeper .
The pressure wasn't to great on him , as he powered QPR to promotion and second place in the first div , did a good job in swizzler land as well.
Cunt maybe to strong on him , but the cunt curren never , can still see him sliding towards us on Boxing Day .
 
You can't have it both ways - we are constantly told selling Adams and DCL were sold as we haven't got time to wait for 'potential to develop '

Why should this be any different cos he's a keeper?
 
I defended Long on here endlessly there is potential there no doubt.
The brain dead fuckers who booed him will never change its in them they just cannot grasp its detrimental to the team.
I just feel sorry for genuine fans who have to stomach these tossers every home game.
Thankfully my seating arrangements at the moment means I don't.
 
The bottom line is that I feel more assured with Moore in goal. He's a proper goalkeeper, i.e communicates with his defenders and has basic positional sense, unlike his predecessor.

I want players who can do the job that they are assigned to. Having Long and Hussey at the back is too much of a bomb scare for my liking. After over half a decade in the 3rd division I really don't give a shit about a players' "development".
 
S20Eddie said:
I would like to congratulate you on your constructive response, it makes me so proud that I share a terrace/stand with such a knowledgeable Blade as yourself......I rest my case.
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I believe that Jord_Blade actually made a point in his post which is something you failed to do. So I actually have to thank you for your outstanding constructive response and top class evasion of the point in question, the shitness of Geoge Long.

Just a question, have you attended a match over the last 2/3 seasons in which George Long played? Your blind support of a sub standard, non league quality goalkeeper lacking in all the basic attributes suggests you haven't.
 



Tyler Durden said:
The bottom line is that I feel more assured with Moore in goal. He's a proper goalkeeper, i.e communicates with his defenders and has basic positional sense, unlike his predecessor.

I want players who can do the job that they are assigned to. Having Long and Hussey at the back is too much of a bomb scare for my liking. After over half a decade in the 3rd division I really don't give a shit about a players' "development".
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Very vocal, he never stopped shouting all night against Leicester U23's, even when the ball was in their box he was shouting, marshaling the players, not just our defenders.
 
One of earth's worst players. On par with woolford for abysmalness.
 
S20Eddie said:
I would like to congratulate you on your constructive response, it makes me so proud that I share a terrace/stand with such a knowledgeable Blade as yourself......I rest my case.
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I am actually very knowledgeable, Edward - thank you for acknowledging. As for sharing a terrace/stand, as you put it, I'm not sure you've been to many matches recently, judging by your comments about Calamity George. I stand by my previous post that he is shit.
 
Long is no longer our 1st choice GK and hasn't moved on, but I'd still prefer him to be on the bench than Ramsdale, as he'd be a better prospect in providing some competition for Moore.

Maybe he hasn't been on the bench recently because TDD was looming?
 
Danny_Blade said:
Long is no longer our 1st choice GK and hasn't moved on, but I'd still prefer him to be on the bench than Ramsdale, as he'd be a better prospect in providing some competition for Moore.
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Really? I've not seen Ramsdale but if he has less prospects and potential than Long that is worrying.
 
Danny_Blade said:
Long is no longer our 1st choice GK and hasn't moved on, but I'd still prefer him to be on the bench than Ramsdale, as he'd be a better prospect in providing some competition for Moore.

Maybe he hasn't been on the bench recently because TDD was looming?
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Dont think you have seen ramsdale play! Academy player of the season last season. Played for england v ireland and south korea. 6"3 good with both feet very vocal and oh on england duty in belgium. Seems some people think hes a good prospect.
 
Danny_Blade said:
Long is no longer our 1st choice GK and hasn't moved on, but I'd still prefer him to be on the bench than Ramsdale, as he'd be a better prospect in providing some competition for Moore.

Maybe he hasn't been on the bench recently because TDD was looming?
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You do realise ramsdale has arms?
 
I didn't boo long however to play devils advocate perhaps the atmosphere generat ed by those who did helped wilder make the decision to make the change.
 
He'll be a good goalie for someone somewhere

For now, blame someone else for our woes, may I suggest someone whose name rhymes with 'bevin'
 



nopigfansintown said:
Ramsdale needs to be loaned out for a couple of seasons minimum - Bramall Lane could destroy him.
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Id be tempted to let young Rammy sit tight for a bit and for him to learn off the SUFC coaching staff whilst he develops a d Utd can keep a very close eye on him. Remember he is still only 17. I would then look to get him out on loan next season for him to 'grow' into mans football and learn what it is all about for real. Then the following season i would hope that all being well, he would be back at the Lane (still at tbe ripe old age of 19) wiser and more aware of expectations. That would be the season when i would expect hm to push for a first team place with another. Whoever had lost the first team argument between Moore and Long (if Long hasnt found something better in the meantime) will probably want to move on anyway clearing a path for young Rammy to challenge. Let Rammy develop slowly and lets not over rush him as what seems to have happened to Long who has possibly been a victim of circumstance and Utds immediate needs when he was only 17 himself and clearly no where near ready.

I dont think Utd's crowd are overly critical in the main and still are patient with their own young lads. That said they wont sit there for ever watching a young un make mistake after mistake. Patience only stretches so far when you are seeing the team get poor results. Rammy would start with a clean slate and plenty of patience from the fans i would think but the problem would be the fans want promotion now asap. To be fair i think we have been very patient whilst we wait for the club to try and get its arse in gear 6 years later...and it lurches from one cock up to another. Not ideal timing for any young lad to be in the side as the expectation / demand to succeed is now definately there rightly or wrongly.
 
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