Fulham v Blades - Highlights

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Well it started well in the first minute with Woolford's run and shot. That was more direct and confident than he's been. Took a good save to stop him. After that...
 
Wow, Baxters tackle was reckless and mistimed but I expected something with real intent. I think it was just a mistimed, lazy challenge all things said. No need what so ever to go in like that so it doesn't really change anything for me. It was stupid and he should know better.
 
jt64 said:
That red on Wallace is, shall we say, an interesting decision
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Yeah looked very harsh on the lad but them ones are always given. Anyone reckon there is enough to appeal it or not? Contact is minimal but never the less enough to be deemed as denying a goalscoring opportunity I guess.
 
Highbury_Blade said:
Straight red for me.
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Yep your right Highbury. Just watched the highlights again but in full screen this time and saw the arm go round and the pull back, I didn't see that previously when I watched it in smaller screen. That is a straight red and it was in clear view of the ref as well. If we were 1 in front or drawing then I would probably understand it more but at 2-0 down those are the ones who pull out of and if he clips you then you hope for a yellow. There was no need to do what he did and he's picked up a nothing ban.
 
In a competition thareally does not matter, its bloody stupid to lose 2 players now out for a couple of games

I would be happy to be out of all cup games this season, and concentrate on winning promotion.

No wonder Adkins wasn't pleased.
 
UnitedBlade said:
Complete stupidity from Alcock for the penalty as well.

Why do that ?
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Of the three incidents, I think Alcock's was the worst. We were still level, it affected the game and it was a completely pointless thing to do. The attacker was facing away from goal, he didn't have the ball under control so the threat was negligible and Alcock gave him the chance to go down like he'd been shot.

I'm probably a bit one eyed, but I think a different ref might have produced two yellows instead of two reds. Baxter was reckless and he was late (though he got there as quick as he could) and the speed the lad was travelling at made it look spectacular, but it was a trip, not a leg breaker. Wallace K's seemed a bit harsh for a pull back, though he didn't protest.

Not that it matters, but Dembele was looking for a flag after he got the deflection on the third, so all in all, you could say we didn't get much luck decision wise.
 
The_Green_Man said:
Yeah looked very harsh on the lad but them ones are always given. Anyone reckon there is enough to appeal it or not? Contact is minimal but never the less enough to be deemed as denying a goalscoring opportunity I guess.
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Nah, two Utd defenders clearly running into box ahead of his run. Very harsh
 
Trigger Blade said:
I'm probably a bit one eyed, but I think a different ref might have produced two yellows instead of two reds. Baxter was reckless and he was late (though he got there as quick as he could) and the speed the lad was travelling at made it look spectacular, but it was a trip, not a leg breaker. .
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The Fulham player isn't sprinting to start with, but he then accelerates and surprisingly knocks it past Baxter with his left foot. This fools Baxter and his momentum makes it impossible for him to retract. If their player hadn't speed up I think Baxter could possibly have got his foot on the ball first. But agree it was clumsy.

 



My highlight was watching some silly arse maraud down the steps to force the stewards to move for once in the 90 minutes... I wonder who that was?
 
Linz said:
My highlight was watching some silly arse maraud down the steps to force the stewards to move for once in the 90 minutes... I wonder who that was?
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Mrs HMB saw a fan struggling to push another (who was in a wheelchair) up a ramp as coppers/stewards stood about checking their phones. She didn't why she was surprised, but what poor public/customer service. Such a little thing compared to some of the experiences we have had at the hand of both, but never the less..
 
Bergen Blade said:
The Fulham player isn't sprinting to start with, but he then accelerates and surprisingly knocks it past Baxter with his left foot. This fools Baxter and his momentum makes it impossible for him to retract. If their player hadn't speed up I think Baxter could possibly have got his foot on the ball first. But agree it was clumsy.

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I like it when we get all Zapruder-filmy anyway here goes.

Listening and following online it sounded like a leg-breaker, like the one last season when he got sent off.

Watching the highlights it's not that, but it's still bad. It all happens very fast but I think he has time - albeit not much time - to pull out.

At Peterborough Sammon got booked for celebrating with our fans - that seemed harsh and he wasn't being provocative. Then when Baxter scored he deliberately ignored the ref who was speaking directly to him. Like he was daring the ref to book him.

This is all amateur psychology of course but I see some of that arrogance in this tackle: he'll never send me off that.

This was as close as I could get to the exact moment, and the ball is long gone.

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A definite pointless booking in a lost cause in a meaningless match, and no surprise at a sending off and a three game ban with a tough match coming up.

Not a leg-breaker then but if it really was unjust then the club would appeal; I can't see them doing that.
 
Just a thought - as there are arguably covering defenders is it worth appealing Wallace's red card? If we time the appeal right he'll be available for Saturday and if it's unsuccessful he'd only miss the Hartlepool game...
 
Balham Blade said:
Just a thought - as there are arguably covering defenders is it worth appealing Wallace's red card? If we time the appeal right he'll be available for Saturday and if it's unsuccessful he'd only miss the Hartlepool game...
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A mate in with the Fulham fans behind that goal was adamant it was a harsh red – there was apparently a general feeling of surprise in the stand that it was given. Looking at the replay, I think McGahey is near enough to raise some doubt on the 'last man' point.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
A mate in with the Fulham fans behind that goal was adamant it was a harsh red – there was apparently a general feeling of surprise in the stand that it was given. Looking at the replay, I think McGahey is near enough to raise some doubt on the 'last man' point.
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There's also the fact that as it was Dembelé it could be argued that it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity. He was garbage.
 
So to summarise:
Late reckless tackle by Baxter, Yellow card
Wallace brushes player who goes down like he's shot, not even a yellow.
3rd goal clearly offside.
Referee a dick.
 
Karaoke Blade said:
So to summarise:
Late reckless tackle by Baxter, Yellow card
Wallace brushes player who goes down like he's shot, not even a yellow.
3rd goal clearly offside.
Referee a dick.
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That's pretty much how I viewed it too - apart from I'd say Wallace was deserving of a yellow but nothing more.
 
Bergen Blade said:
I think McGahey plays Dembele onside, judging by these videos:



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Still think Dembele was offside from those vids - only needs a piece of something you can score with in front of the last defender to be offside.

Wallace Red card is harsh but we've seen them given before so I can't really complain about it - would have been better letting Dembele get a rush of blood to the head but I'm not convinced K-Wall is that bright to recognise that sort of stuff
Anyway, isn't it only a one game ban for Wallace for a Professional Foul?

Baxter's wasn't any where near a red - cynical - probably, rash - certainly, ill-judged - undoubtedly but it wasn't as bad as I'd heard on comms - shin pad on shin pad is not a leg breaker and the speed at which it happened made it look worse than it was. If that ref had played the game he would have given it a yellow instead of a red - that's never a leg breaker, nothing close to one.

Alcock - cock!
 
From those highlights, both reds harsh although both incidents a bit silly and avoidable. Alcock's pull back was a disgrace; footballers are really thick aren't they ??
 



Personally, I think Baxter's challenge was stupid and he deserved the red card he got for it. You can argue it as a yellow but the sheer stupidity of it means, for me, he deserves everything he gets. If he'd got a yellow, I'd still expect Adkins to be down on him like a tonne of bricks.

Wallace's is debatable, more so than Baxter's for me. I think there is a covering defender but the question is whether he would have got there. All the official's opinion and he deemed it a goalscoring opportunity, have to say if I was to edge one way or the other, I'd say it was a red. As for an appeal, there'd be absolutely no chance of getting that overturned. Again, though you can't blame him as much for this one, it's a rather needless challenge to make at 0-2 with seconds left in a cup we're not too interested in. Wallace has done well as a "square peg" and was starting to show signs of getting a run of games but he may have blown his chances there. I suspect Adkins is doing all he can to find a LB or a CB (so Captain Jay can play LB) right now and Wallace may just have been forcing his way right into plans before that.

Daft or stupid, both red cards for me.
 
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