Freeman and Pompey

[Barney]

By that reckoning, we wouldn’t be open to someone taking over Dean Hammond’s contract unless they also paid us a fee?


Think you’re living in cloud cuckoo land.


I don’t expect us to make money on the transfer listed players generally. Maybe a nominal fee here and there but pretty certain Hammond and Woolford for example will go for nothing with us also paying up a percentage of their contract.

I can see where you've misunderstood.

I was making the point that we shouldn't just pay him up to play at another club.

 

[Lane Ender]

Sum reit ballaks bin spouted on ere.

Freeman was our best player for the first heif of last season ... thought dat dunt se much. He's as good as 'back off' Brayford and a damn site cheaper. Freeman is versatile too and can play at left back plus he could slot in at RB if Nrayford has to cover at centre heif.

Freeman must have been on much bigger wages at Derby but he came to us for regular football. Adkins shipped our most consistent player out because some numpty had paid 1.5 mill for a right back and it was demanded by the BDTBL for him to start.

Yor two hats on ere wunt know a decent footballer if he smacked you in the gobb. Let's keep on worshipping back off Brayford (who has been gash sine we brought him back for silly money) whilst we slag off other players dat av dun fuck all wrong. Know nowts.


Stop messin abart .... Gerrit forrard!!!??

Da mustav bin watchin summat difrent to me mukka

 

[UnitedBlade]

How on earth can Pompey be expected to fork out £4/£5k a week for a full back in League 2.

Will freeman accept a pay drop of £2k a week just to play in L2?

Don't think so. Play hardball all we want.

Fine, he doesn't play football.

Do you know that he earns £5k per week at the Lane by the way ?

Are you saying we give him the quoted contract difference of £100k to join to Pompey ? His full contract value is £250k if you are right about his wages.

Of course we can play hardball. Start at nothing by refusing to negotiate and keep any settlement to an absolute minimum.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Fine, he doesn't play football.

Do you know that he earns £5k per week at the Lane by the way ?

Are you saying we give him the quoted contract difference of £100k to join to Pompey ? His full contract value is £250k if you are right about his wages.

Of course we can play hardball. Start at nothing by refusing to negotiate and keep any settlement to an absolute minimum.

Put whatever numbers on the situation as you may but the fact is your proposal to "play hardball" doesn't act in the interests of the player or our club, or Portsmouth either. The 3 parties need to find a way through a difficult set of circumstances, for everybody's benefit, including the player or two we might sign in his place.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Sum reit ballaks bin spouted on ere.

Freeman was our best player for the first heif of last season ... thought dat dunt se much. He's as good as 'back off' Brayford and a damn site cheaper. Freeman is versatile too and can play at left back plus he could slot in at RB if Nrayford has to cover at centre heif.

Freeman must have been on much bigger wages at Derby but he came to us for regular football. Adkins shipped our most consistent player out because some numpty had paid 1.5 mill for a right back and it was demanded by the BDTBL for him to start.

Yor two hats on ere wunt know a decent footballer if he smacked you in the gobb. Let's keep on worshipping back off Brayford (who has been gash sine we brought him back for silly money) whilst we slag off other players dat av dun fuck all wrong. Know nowts.


Stop messin abart .... Gerrit forrard!!!??

.....and now, the news in English

 

[Ben_1982]

Let the prick go, thinks he's all that when he ain't. Would rather Stay up watching basketball till all hours and turns up for training half asleep. Laters cunt

 

[Tyler Durden]

Glad he's going, another useless, dickless cunt who we should've jettisoned a long time ago.

I wish him misery and failure, like every other arsehole who we've shown the door to.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Professional pride? Desire to further his career by getting regular game time? Wish to be somewhere where he's genuinely wanted & fits into the manager's plans going forward?
Nah. The only concern is maximising the "pay out" to be got off the suckers at Sheffield United.

The day that all the leeches like Freeman are extracted from this club can't come soon enough.

In saying that, hope full well that the cunt's "pay out" is minimised as far as possible, even if it means him stinking the place out a bit longer. Then someone else - Portsmouth or whoever - can have the pleasure of dealing with this shining example of the Modern-day Footballer.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Put whatever numbers on the situation as you may but the fact is your proposal to "play hardball" doesn't act in the interests of the player or our club, or Portsmouth either. The 3 parties need to find a way through a difficult set of circumstances, for everybody's benefit, including the player or two we might sign in his place.

Freeman is nowhere near the top of our list of players we need to move on.

Leave it until August, no need to do anything now.

There is absolutely no chance he earns £5k a week, he's barely started 100 League games at 6 clubs, a handful at Championship level. Not even United have been shelling out that sort of money for players like him, it doesn't stack up.

Hammond is the first priority and I accept he probably won't shift without some money although with his legs having gone I'm not sure who'd take him.

Let the agent work hard to move Freeman on, there's no need to be pushing money his way.

 

[Champagneblade]

We don't actually have another recognised right back on the books.

Unless the plan is to use Basham or Whiteman or have one of the incoming centre backs as someone who can play on the right I see no urgency with this one.

Is Freeman good enough to deputise in League One for Brayford? I'd say he is.

Are his wages astronomical? I doubt it. He wasn't brought in as a guaranteed starter.

Is it worth expending energy to ship him out to then have to replace like for like? I'd say not, unless there was a significant financial advantage in doing so.

I'd say there is more pressure on him than us.

He could face 6 months without much football, which may jeopardise his chances of a January move also.

There will be a greater need to be proactive regarding Coutts or Hammond as they will be on 2-3 times that of Freeman and don't fit the physical profile; i.e. Unlikely to become midfield box to box allrounders, whereas Freeman can adequately provide cover at right and left back.

 

[Rodley]

He's been crap at Pompey & crap here.

 

[Rodley]

We don't actually have another recognised right back on the books.

Unless the plan is to use Basham or Whiteman or have one of the incoming centre backs as someone who can play on the right I see no urgency with this one.

Is Freeman good enough to deputise in League One for Brayford? I'd say he is.

Are his wages astronomical? I doubt it. He wasn't brought in as a guaranteed starter.

Is it worth expending energy to ship him out to then have to replace like for like? I'd say not, unless there was a significant financial advantage in doing so.

I'd say there is more pressure on him than us.

He could face 6 months without much football, which may jeopardise his chances of a January move also.

There will be a greater need to be proactive regarding Coutts or Hammond as they will be on 2-3 times that of Freeman and don't fit the physical profile; i.e. Unlikely to become midfield box to box allrounders, whereas Freeman can adequately provide cover at right and left back.

Kelly will do for back up

 

[Kev Gee]

Stick or twist.
He has to decide by the end of August weather to bite the bullet in order to play football.

Remember that there are no mid season loans anymore. If hes still here after the deadline then he will have to wait until Jan to move on.

Of course that is also true of us.
Do we play hard ball and have a player who we dont want hanging around the training ground?

 

[Lane Ender]

He's been crap at Pompey & crap here.

Why do Pompey want him.
Their fans don't rate him as do the majority of our fans.
Let him go on a season long loan

 

[Deleted member 875]

Get this wage stealing cunt told that you either fuck off to Portsmouth, or you stay here and get put nowhere near the first team to such an extent next summer nobody will remember you, never mind want you.

He wants to screw an extra £100k out of us, fuck it lets give it him, but screw up his career as much as we possibly can.

With a bit of luck it won't be long until his professional career over and he is back in the real world having to work for a living.

 

[Lane Ender]

Get this wage stealing cunt told that you either fuck off to Portsmouth, or you stay here and get put nowhere near the first team to such an extent next summer nobody will remember you, never mind want you.

He wants to screw an extra £100k out of us, fuck it lets give it him, but screw up his career as much as we possibly can.

With a bit of luck it won't be long until his professional career over and he is back in the real world having to work for a living.

Yea let him train with the U15s

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Not wrong

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Stop stalking me.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Get this wage stealing cunt told that you either fuck off to Portsmouth, or you stay here and get put nowhere near the first team to such an extent next summer nobody will remember you, never mind want you.

He wants to screw an extra £100k out of us, fuck it lets give it him, but screw up his career as much as we possibly can.

With a bit of luck it won't be long until his professional career over and he is back in the real world having to work for a living.

Yep. Keep him well away from the first team, then when his contracts up, let's see how much his next offer is.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Pay up Pompey

 

[Woodwardfan]

Get this wage stealing cunt told that you either fuck off to Portsmouth, or you stay here and get put nowhere near the first team to such an extent next summer nobody will remember you, never mind want you.

He wants to screw an extra £100k out of us, fuck it lets give it him, but screw up his career as much as we possibly can.

With a bit of luck it won't be long until his professional career over and he is back in the real world having to work for a living.

£40k? What then?

 

[Fraggle Blade]

It's not about paying Freeman up his contract....if a player is sold and he hasn't asked for a transfer, he is entitled to a "fee" for leaving his contract early.
This is what will be being negotiated.
It won't be anything like a full 12 months salary.

 

[sheffielder]

Yea let him train with the U15s

What have the u15's done wrong?

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

I think one or two might have already suggested but put a transfer fee on him, or let him buy up the last 12 months on his contract if he wants a move to Portsmouth.

Professional footballers most of them a set of wankers.

 

[Deleted member 875]

£40k? What then?

In different terms

I paid £400 for my season ticket. I worked hard for that money.

He wants to take my money and the money from another 99 people like me in a stroke, just for doing nothing.

Can you justify that?

 

[Woodwardfan]

In different terms

I paid £400 for my season ticket. I worked hard for that money.

He wants to take my money and the money from another 99 people like me in a stroke, just for doing nothing.

Can you justify that?

I'm probably the last person to ask to justify the way football has gone over the years and would relate Rooney's £300k per week against your hard earned money; I abhor the way money has ruined our sport, but the players hold most of the cards in these situations.

However a contract is a contract and footballers do not have to justify the fact that they expect to be compensated for unexpired wages on contracts if their parent club wants them to leave. Often it's an issue when players are leaving for pay rises at their new club never mind large pay reductions; they insist on a share of the transfer fee or cash even if there isn't a fee for some strange reason.

The incentive for the parent club in these situations is to save money and free up budget for replacement players. The incentive for a young player like Freeman not to be greedy is the opportunity to get their playing career on track. Hammond on the other hand is less concerned about that at his age and will negotiate all the harder.

I can't justify that but I understand it and anybody would do the same with a contract in their hands which guarantees big earnings for a set period. No mortal reason why they would not regard it as a right and it would happen outside football too.

 

[sheffielder]

In different terms

I paid £400 for my season ticket. I worked hard for that money.

He wants to take my money and the money from another 99 people like me in a stroke, just for doing nothing.

Can you justify that?

So you want free movement of players because the contracts you're wanting will mean jack shit.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Freeman is nowhere near the top of our list of players we need to move on.

Leave it until August, no need to do anything now.

There is absolutely no chance he earns £5k a week, he's barely started 100 League games at 6 clubs, a handful at Championship level. Not even United have been shelling out that sort of money for players like him, it doesn't stack up.

Hammond is the first priority and I accept he probably won't shift without some money although with his legs having gone I'm not sure who'd take him.

Let the agent work hard to move Freeman on, there's no need to be pushing money his way.

When Freeman came to us he still had 18 months of his Derby contract remaining at the Championship big club. Clough had extended his contract at Derby after he played that handful of first team games.

He will not have come to us for peanuts but may well have pocketed a 'golden goodbye payment' from Derby to make the deal work. Probably will have if he was accepting a pay cut, but was he?

As ever SUFC are on the losing end thanks to really poor managerial decisions. Personally I think we could make a squad player out of Freeman and even a first teamer in time if he could learn to defend better, which he will. But I suspect his wages are vastly inflated in relation to his worth. There lies the problem.

What a month January 2015 was: we signed Brayford (£1.75m? plus £9k a week? Done £750k and £7k a week? Freeman £4/5k a week? K.Wallace £3k a week and since increased on improved contract, Coutts £7k a week?, more?. How desperate we were and how we panicked and how we spent money we can never spend twice. Must be the Board's fault.

 

[Lane Ender]

When Freeman came to us he still had 18 months of his Derby contract remaining at the Championship big club. Clough had extended his contract at Derby after he played that handful of first team games.

He will not have come to us for peanuts but may well have pocketed a 'golden goodbye payment' from Derby to make the deal work. Probably will have if he was accepting a pay cut, but was he?

As ever SUFC are on the losing end thanks to really poor managerial decisions. Personally I think we could make a squad player out of Freeman and even a first teamer in time if he could learn to defend better, which he will. But I suspect his wages are vastly inflated in relation to his worth. There lies the problem.

What a month January 2015 was: we signed Brayford (£1.75m? plus £9k a week? Done £750k and £7k a week? Freeman £4/5k a week? K.Wallace £3k a week and since increased on improved contract, Coutts £7k a week?, more?. How desperate we were and how we panicked and how we spent money we can never spend twice. Must be the Board's fault.

Freeman will never be able to defend stop trying to promote him he's fucking garbage face it.

 

[sheffielder]

When Freeman came to us he still had 18 months of his Derby contract remaining at the Championship big club. Clough had extended his contract at Derby after he played that handful of first team games.

He will not have come to us for peanuts but may well have pocketed a 'golden goodbye payment' from Derby to make the deal work. Probably will have if he was accepting a pay cut, but was he?

As ever SUFC are on the losing end thanks to really poor managerial decisions. Personally I think we could make a squad player out of Freeman and even a first teamer in time if he could learn to defend better, which he will. But I suspect his wages are vastly inflated in relation to his worth. There lies the problem.

What a month January 2015 was: we signed Brayford (£1.75m? plus £9k a week? Done £750k and £7k a week? Freeman £4/5k a week? K.Wallace £3k a week and since increased on improved contract, Coutts £7k a week?, more?. How desperate we were and how we panicked and how we spent money we can never spend twice. Must be the Board's fault.

If your 2nd string RB who can't defend is on 5k a week no wonder people got sacked. Let us not defend Freeman as even Portsmouth fans don't even want him and they have been through the mire.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

If I have £500,000 to spend...

A - and I pay Player A £100,000 to leave that leaves me with ................
B - or we keep player on our books who I pay £8,500 a month & after twelve months he leaves... that will leave me with £...... in the biscuit tin?
C - you haven't a clue what i'm talking about.

Its always C