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[Sirius]

First of all let me say thanks to Nigel for righting the wrongs of Mr Weir. It didn't take a genius to see where the previous guy was going wrong. He had played his football at the highest level, and dare I say, during that time he had never given a moments thought to the lower league players ,whom he came across on his first managerial appointment.

Clough played at a similar level, managed at a decent level and coached players ,who, could do the basics well.
He did a good job last season in steadying the ship but IMO he still had his head around the standard of football that he had been used to.

Like his predecessor, he appeared not to have looked too closely at what was required to get us promoted, preferring to sign reasonable players, fit to establish themselves at Championship level. This is perhaps borne out by our success against Premiership teams

All well and good but it has not worked out. HAD Clough looked at the teams who had been promoted over the last few seasons, he should have realised that footballing ability came a distant second to athletic hump, by man mountains who could easily take carer of the proper footballers, all be it with the sanction of inferior officials.

Please do not get me wrong, I love the football that is played to feet on the ground but the crab like passes that we witness will get us no where. High crosses, low crosses are easily dealt with by stronger oponents

IMO Nigel failed to do his home work and should be put in detention.

 

[Blade56]

IMO Nigel failed to do his home work and should be put in detention.

Bit harsh S

 

[dingledog]

You will never get out of this league with the Scottish seven Dwarfs. NC talks about lack of height, well who assembled the Snow White panto cast?

 

[Blade56]

You will never get out of this league with the Scottish seven Dwarfs. NC talks about lack of height, well who assembled the Snow White panto cast?

Gordon Strachen once tried (and failed miserably) with the great Scottish experiment at Middlesborough. Problem we have (wee have) is those players are now on contracts and any new manager (or incumbent) would have to take a season or two working them out of the club or spend transfer funds paying off contracts as I assume those payoffs would count towards the fair play limits.

 

[finlaytheblade]

First of all let me say thanks to Nigel for righting the wrongs of Mr Weir. It didn't take a genius to see where the previous guy was going wrong. He had played his football at the highest level, and dare I say, during that time he had never given a moments thought to the lower league players ,whom he came across on his first managerial appointment.

Clough played at a similar level, managed at a decent level and coached players ,who, could do the basics well.
He did a good job last season in steadying the ship but IMO he still had his head around the standard of football that he had been used to.

Like his predecessor, he appeared not to have looked too closely at what was required to get us promoted, preferring to sign reasonable players, fit to establish themselves at Championship level. This is perhaps borne out by our success against Premiership teams

All well and good but it has not worked out. HAD Clough looked at the teams who had been promoted over the last few seasons, he should have realised that footballing ability came a distant second to athletic hump, by man mountains who could easily take carer of the proper footballers, all be it with the sanction of inferior officials.

Please do not get me wrong, I love the football that is played to feet on the ground but the crab like passes that we witness will get us no where. High crosses, low crosses are easily dealt with by stronger oponents

IMO Nigel failed to do his home work and should be put in detention.

not the case sirius i agree we are too small as a team and not physically strong enough for any division not just this one.
but plenty of teams football there way out of this division Bournmouth,Brentford are 2 recent ones.I am and have been a clough supporter but feel as though he has failed to get the balance right. from day one when he put out a makeshift centre back pairing of alcock and magahey.Centre or spine of the team has been weak all season and he has been too complacent and not pushed too hard to rectify it.we have been in need of a big dominant centre back all season and he may have to turn to collins who is not the answer but the best we can do now unless he signs one on loan.We still have a great chance of play offs even to win them but the weaknesses i have highlighted will make it tough.
So lets put all the issues to one side and get behind cloughy and his lightweight squad we can do it if we stick together. Booing them off at the lane if things arnt going well just compounds the problem.
COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZARDS

 

[mattbianco1]

Is everybody going to admit they were wrong when we win the Play Offs?

 

[Revolution]

Is everybody going to admit they were wrong when we win the Play Offs?

Have you admitted you were wrong about us going up automatically after we signed Forte on loan 2 years ago?

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Is everybody going to admit they were wrong when we win the Play Offs?

I would crawl over broken glass to deliver such an apology and admission. Don't think I will be though.

 

[Kenilworth]

Is everybody going to admit they were wrong when we win the Play Offs?

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Fuck me - head's fallen off

 

[Fulwood Blade]

First of all let me say thanks to Nigel for righting the wrongs of Mr Weir. It didn't take a genius to see where the previous guy was going wrong. He had played his football at the highest level, and dare I say, during that time he had never given a moments thought to the lower league players ,whom he came across on his first managerial appointment.

Clough played at a similar level, managed at a decent level and coached players ,who, could do the basics well.
He did a good job last season in steadying the ship but IMO he still had his head around the standard of football that he had been used to.

Like his predecessor, he appeared not to have looked too closely at what was required to get us promoted, preferring to sign reasonable players, fit to establish themselves at Championship level. This is perhaps borne out by our success against Premiership teams

All well and good but it has not worked out. HAD Clough looked at the teams who had been promoted over the last few seasons, he should have realised that footballing ability came a distant second to athletic hump, by man mountains who could easily take carer of the proper footballers, all be it with the sanction of inferior officials.

Please do not get me wrong, I love the football that is played to feet on the ground but the crab like passes that we witness will get us no where. High crosses, low crosses are easily dealt with by stronger oponents

IMO Nigel failed to do his home work and should be put in detention.

Like the post and yes, NC has issues at the moment.

Quarter of the season to go and far from over.

By all means slag him off IF we don't go up.....................the fat lady isn't singing yet.

UTB

 

[Kenilworth]

Like the post and yes, NC has issues at the moment.
Quarter of the season to go and far from over.

By all means slag him off IF we don't go up.....................the fat lady isn't singing yet.

No but she has her G-string on, the nipple tassels, and the nail varnish (steady Blood)
And she is gargling with a throat lubricating substance so she can belt one out (I said steady there, Blood)

She may not be on the stage but she has almost decided which song to sing and at which venue

 

[mattbianco1]

Have you admitted you were wrong about us going up automatically after we signed Forte on loan 2 years ago?

Find a post that says that

 

[Fulwood Blade]

No but she has her G-string on, the nipple tassels, and the nail varnish (steady Blood)
And she is gargling with a throat lubricating substance so she can belt one out (I said steady there, Blood)

She may not be on the stage but she has almost decided which song to sing and at which venue

nah, she'll end up croaking before singing - keep the faith.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Gordon Strachen once tried (and failed miserably) with the great Scottish experiment at Middlesborough. Problem we have (wee have) is those players are now on contracts and any new manager (or incumbent) would have to take a season or two working them out of the club or spend transfer funds paying off contracts as I assume those payoffs would count towards the fair play limits.

To be fair, I don' think we've overpaid drastically for most players, and in general age is on their side. I don't think we'd have a big problem moving the majority of our players on.

UTB

 

[Rodders]

Is the thread title a Chinese proverb?

 

[Sirius]

not the case sirius i agree we are too small as a team and not physically strong enough for any division not just this one.
but plenty of teams football there way out of this division Bournmouth,Brentford are 2 recent ones.I am and have been a clough supporter but feel as though he has failed to get the balance right. from day one when he put out a makeshift centre back pairing of alcock and magahey.Centre or spine of the team has been weak all season and he has been too complacent and not pushed too hard to rectify it.we have been in need of a big dominant centre back all season and he may have to turn to collins who is not the answer but the best we can do now unless he signs one on loan.We still have a great chance of play offs even to win them but the weaknesses i have highlighted will make it tough.
So lets put all the issues to one side and get behind cloughy and his lightweight squad we can do it if we stick together. Booing them off at the lane if things arnt going well just compounds the problem.
COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE WIZARDS

I agree Finlay that we should all get behind the team. I wasn't suggesting that individuals were not giving of Their best.

I take your point about Bournmouth and Brentford but I have no idea whether these sides combined height with ability?

As ever I will be supporting the Blades, come hell or high water.

 

[Sirius]

Is the thread title a Chinese proverb?

The darkest place is under the candlestick

 

[JJBlade]

The question I want the answer to is why do all our managers take over from some boring negative cunt and treat us to nice attractive attacking football for the rest of the season only to become another boring negative cunt in the second season.

 

[wizadry]

To be fair, I don' think we've overpaid drastically for most players, and in general age is on their side. I don't think we'd have a big problem moving the majority of our players on.

UTB

I don't think we'd have to move the majority on mate, we'd need a better spine admittedly but with more positive tactics and with the more solid spine our side wouldn't be far off a very good side. The spine of the team has cost us more than anything this season and this is the managers fault, no one elses. Lets live in hope we scrape in the playoffs, in which we looked nailed on for a couple of weeks ago and break our hoodoo at Wembley, we can dream can't we

 

[robbiez666]

If we got two tall strong and experienced CBs in on loan til the end of the season, we'd probably go up.

Big if though

 

[alcoblade]

I don't think we'd have to move the majority on mate, we'd need a better spine admittedly but with more positive tactics and with the more solid spine our side wouldn't be far off a very good side. The spine of the team has cost us more than anything this season and this is the managers fault, no one elses. Lets live in hope we scrape in the playoffs, in which we looked nailed on for a couple of weeks ago and break our hoodoo at Wembley, we can dream can't we

It's the number of players that's the problem, our squad is just too big. And given we will have to resort to a few quality signings to make the difference, I wonder where the money will come from without trimming it.

I'm also fairly sure we've bought the odd dud of late, sadly.

UTB

 

[wizadry]

It's the number of players that's the problem, our squad is just too big. And given we will have to resort to a few quality signings to make the difference, I wonder where the money will come from without trimming it.

I'm also fairly sure we've bought the odd dud of late, sadly.

UTB

Can't disagree with any of that and a great point about where the money will come from to get the solid spine we need, i can hazard a guess as to where that money will come from, which will mean weakening the side even further Will make it very interesting indeed to see what happens in pre season, isn't it great being a blade, never nothing happening