Floated Corners

[mattbianco1]

Why? Just why?

And also, why don't they realise after the first 2 that maybe a different style is required. Its not just Baxter either. Reed does them too

 

[Bergen Blade]

Don't you know how difficult to get a good pace on your header if the corner is floated in? This means the clearing header won't go as far.

 

[siblade]

Don't you know how difficult to get a good pace on your header if the corner is floated in? This means the clearing header won't go as far.

No wonder we never score from them then, no pace. Works both ways.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

2:55 to 3:30

 

[Highbury_Blade]

No wonder we never score from them then, no pace. Works both ways.

Our second at QPR was from a floated corner.


That sad i don't like them either. To get something out of them requires defensive errors.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

2:55 to 3:30

A bit unfair that, Shala, using proper players to make your point.

 

[siblade]

Our second at QPR was from a floated corner.


That sad i don't like them either. To get something out of them requires defensive errors.

Ok badly worded on my part but you get the point, we don't get much from them. At least some variation would be nice, we don't have much height so need to try some other set piece tactics.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I think in the premier league corners resulting in a goal is down to something like 1 in 10.


Reed doesn't strike me as the kind of player that can deliver a whipped corner anyway. Not sure his little legs can get the power required to do a giggsy style corner.

 

[Latters]

From what I've seen Harris is the best corner taker we've got. I don't know why we continue to let other players take them who rarely beat the first man.

 

[Wards]

Prefer if we either took them short or went for a near post flick...used to work that one well in the mid 90s (Nathan Blake did it really well) and it's difficult to defend against from my own experience.

 

[SwissBlade]

Reed doesn't strike me as the kind of player that can deliver a whipped corner anyway. Not sure his little legs can get the power required to do a giggsy style corner.

I disagree with this (i'm sure its slightly tongue in cheek), he can ping balls all over the park, floated, driven, slide rule, he can deliver corners too

From what I've seen Harris is the best corner taker we've got. I don't know why we continue to let other players take them who rarely beat the first man.

I'd agree with this, but we tend to leave a fullback (natural defender) and a small midfielder (pick one) back at corners, Harris seems to be the designate on this occasion

As much as i like Baxter, he's not the man for Corners. He can deliver a decent corner, but its rare. However, the problem is magnified because we have so few big lads in the box. When your only threat is two centre halves against a side like Preston, you're always going to struggle.

I also don't think we attack the ball well enough. Harry was a great asset from Corners and I think Tel Kennedy is the same mould, perhaps the influence of Morgs on both of them.

As we're such a small side, we need to be more inventive on corners. Blackwell (under Warnock) managed to get us trying so sublime to ridiculous Corner and freekick routines. We need to go back to some of these daft routines and at least get sides thinking. Let Baxter take one or two, but then let him get into the box for the next one. Teams do their scouting, they know who comes up for corners, they know who takes them. Change it. Let them worry about us.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

We seem to be defending from our own corners.

Kennedy wins a lot in the air and might offer variety, at least till the opposition figure out he's the only threat.

How about varying with short corners and playing or driving the ball into the box.

I'd like to see Scoogs nutmeg a lumbering Division 3 giant, run through his legs after the ball, and blast it into the kop, I mean top corner.

Floaters, they stink.

 

[Silent Blade]

Hate floated corners. Makes it easy for the keeper to punch or hold it. Also easier for the defending players (always outnumber the attacking players) in the box to have more time to judge the flight and the direction of the cross. A cross is best delivered when driven

 

[jt64]

If we've got aspirations to play at a higher level, we should look at what they do with their corners in the Premier League - I've done some statistical analysis and I think this is what we want:

 

[Cool Clint]

I know we conceded from a corner the other night but have we conceded many from corners this season?

 

[wizadry]

I know we conceded from a corner the other night but have we conceded many from corners this season?

Not a lot have been conceded from corners,it's from crosses in general where we concede most from off the top of my head.Someone might correct this but this is my take on it from what i can remember.

 

[Bladesway]

Not a lot have been conceded from corners,it's from crosses in general where we concede most from off the top of my head.Someone might correct this but this is my take on it from what i can remember.

Don't most teams concede most from crosses?

 

[wizadry]

Don't most teams concede most from crosses?

I wouldn't know 'tbh',but having a little think about it you could well be right mate.It's one for the statisticians to work out for us this one.

 

[Bladesway]

I wouldn't know 'tbh',but having a little think about it you could well be right mate.It's one for the statisticians to work out for us this one.

I know it's pub level granted I probably scored 80 percent of my goals from crosses and the amount of goals you see from crosses has to be 70 percent plus.

 

[wizadry]

I know it's pub level granted I probably scored 80 percent of my goals from crosses and the amount of goals you see from crosses has to be 70 percent plus.

Yes i can see this not been far off after i thought about it for a while,i'd be interested to see some stats on this as i'm sure you yourself would,it would make for interesting reading and debate.

 

[Bladesway]

Yes i can see this not been far off after i thought about it for a while,i'd be interested to see some stats on this as i'm sure you yourself would,it would make for interesting reading and debate.

Apparently I'm miles out. According to the EPL website from 2011/12 it's only 15 percent from crosses. Most assists originate just outside the box.

 

[wizadry]

Apparently I'm miles out. According to the EPL website from 2011/12 it's only 15 percent from crosses. Most assists originate just outside the box.

I always knew you were

On a more serious note i was with you all the way on this,don't forget you've done the Premier league stats.I'd like to think the percentage will get higher the lower down the league scale you go.

 

[sitwell]

Corners should be taken by a) JCR b) Murphy c) Flynn d) Harris e) Brayford ,these are the guys who are supposed to be putting crosses in the box and are unlikely to score from a header. Someone explain the logic behind Baxters last 50 corners all being the same ,when JCR has never won a header in his life and the crosses are shit. Surely JCR is a better crosser and Baxter could win the odd header or even drive the headed clearance from the edge of the box. Pretty basic stuff I think.

 

[wizadry]

Corners should be taken by a) JCR b) Murphy c) Flynn d) Harris e) Brayford ,these are the guys who are supposed to be putting crosses in the box and are unlikely to score from a header. Someone explain the logic behind Baxters last 50 corners all being the same ,when JCR has never won a header in his life and the crosses are shit. Surely JCR is a better crosser and Baxter could win the odd header or even drive the headed clearance from the edge of the box. Pretty basic stuff I think.

I think Baxter is told what sort of corner to do from the management team and it isn't doing us any favours at all.I'm with you on this in that Baxter should not take them now if we're going to persist with the same corner,Baxters' position should be on the edge of the box ready for a knock down so he can have a pop at goal,like you say these things are basics really and our management needs to sort this aspect out because we really are shit at them.

 

[Aston max]

I know it's pub level granted I probably scored 80 percent of my goals from crosses and the amount of goals you see from crosses has to be 70 percent plus.

be careful you will be offered a trial talking like this

 

[Bladesway]

be careful you will be offered a trial talking like this

In fairness perhaps it does show you a difference between football at dog and duck level and proper football. Still think down the line and sling it in is the best way of scoring a goal but I clearly know jack shit.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

We've got plenty of players that can put in a decent ball, Baxter, Davies, ergh, ok, two at least then, the problem is we've got no big f***er that is good in the air, it's the same reason why we are poor at defending set plays.

Now if we could just sweet talk Brucey, could we, just maybe, persuade him into letting us have Maguire back for 3 months, even better if they default on payment would we get him back anyway???

 

[yuley82]

No wonder we never score from them then, no pace. Works both ways.

We don't score from them cos all the players are 4ft nowt

 

[blade too long]

They were floating corners in at Hillsbrough a couple oif years back