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Ricky said:
I'm not quite in the Adkins out camp, but I must admit this is a pretty exciting prospect and my appetite for next season would increase ten fold if this went ahead, especially if he was backed well in the transfer market.

Buy good attacking players and go for the jugular every game. It's about time we had that sort of excitement and some value for money.
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I know where you are coming from but I also remember Spurs looking at Wenger's early successes at Arsenal and bringing in Christian Gross in an attempt to copy it and ending up looking right mugs.

I fear we are going to go down this route after what Carlos the Jackass as allegedly achieved across the City.
 
zablade said:
I know where you are coming from but I also remember Spurs looking at Wenger's early successes at Arsenal and bringing in Christian Gross in an attempt to copy it and ending up looking right mugs.

I fear we are going to go down this route after what Carlos the Jackass as allegedly achieved across the City.
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With his coaching pedigree, his CV and the probability of more money being spent by the Prince if he's appointed, I think it'd be a gamble well worth taking. It appears that he's a higher quality coach than any British manager we could get and that his appointment would be the most likely route to real investment in the squad. Yes it could go either way, but we've hardly got a great deal to lose have we?
 
Ricky said:
With his coaching pedigree, his CV and the probability of more money being spent by the Prince if he's appointed, I think it'd be a gamble well worth taking. It appears that he's a higher quality coach than any British manager we could get and that his appointment would be the most likely route to real investment in the squad. Yes it could go either way, but we've hardly got a great deal to lose have we?
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If the "probability" of more money was a "certainty" I would be less worried about it. That's the key point.
 
If Prince and his cohorts are looking for a club who achieved something outstanding this season, without breaking the proverbial "bank" with foreign ownership, look at the club that's just won the PL with games to spare. NOT some club more worldwide known for April '89 and owned by a bloke who's gonna be twitchy when the Tuna Industry collapses.
 
zablade said:
If the "probability" of more money was a "certainty" I would be less worried about it. That's the key point.
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I think it's extremely unlikely that the Prince would appoint his own man, a man with a big reputation who doesn't need to take a job like ours, and lumber him with the current dross and more of the same types of players.
I'd be willing to gamble on it. Worst case scenario could be similar players with a better coach.
 
zablade said:
If the "probability" of more money was a "certainty" I would be less worried about it. That's the key point.
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For his own kudos and perhaps a bit of one up manship with McCabe , the prince I am sure would do everything in his power for the Johnny Foreigner manager , chosen by him to succeed . It could mean more money and better recruitment . Who knows but could it be worth a shot . All Adkins has done is wind people up or do we put up with him and stick with what we have got , even if we are unhappy.

If the prince does not get his way with this one , showing his clout , but overridden by McCabe and Co, will the prince take his bat and ball home , so he also becomes a albatross around McCabes neck .

I can see the prince winning this battle of the managers , but McCabe will always win the war.

Would us fans be annoyed and sad in a Southampton way to see Adkins get the boot.
 
I'm exposed to working with three Turkish professionals in my job (I work for a U.S. Bank) and one thing they all share is pragmatism and direct communication.

Not against having people just get to the point and get on with things. This season has witnessed so many positive interviews from the manager when the truth has been far less upbeat to be at times detached from reality.

What can he actually get so wrong that Adkins hasn't already?

- make an inappropriate choice of captain?
- sign ageing (never)has been and try to bump him up at every opportunity?
- spend wages on a wide player who makes no impact all season?
- keep changing the team all season until it's too late?
Keep changing formations all season because you didn't sign the right players by the end of the transfer window?

Plenty of scope for him to not do far worse.

He might even come in, see the size of the club and budget and see it for what it should be - an opportunity to steamroll a division in which you are the biggest club by a mile.

Let's not also lose sight of the fact that Adkins has not only failed, he's done so against very mediocre opposition this season too. No Wolves this time around.

Not saying this bloke is the answer but the alternative is hoping that Adkins approaches the next season in a totally different, almost opposite manner to the last. I'm not sure where the biggest leap of faith is there. I'd take a change just not to sign Hammond!
 

According to his wikipedia entry he joined us in Aug 2016. Anyone got something they want to own up to? ;)
 
Champagneblade said:
I'm exposed to working with three Turkish professionals in my job (I work for a U.S. Bank) and one thing they all share is pragmatism and direct communication.

Not against having people just get to the point and get on with things. This season has witnessed so many positive interviews from the manager when the truth has been far less upbeat to be at times detached from reality.

What can he actually get so wrong that Adkins hasn't already?

- make an inappropriate choice of captain?
- sign ageing (never)has been and try to bump him up at every opportunity?
- spend wages on a wide player who makes no impact all season?
- keep changing the team all season until it's too late?
Keep changing formations all season because you didn't sign the right players by the end of the transfer window?

Plenty of scope for him to not do far worse.

He might even come in, see the size of the club and budget and see it for what it should be - an opportunity to steamroll a division in which you are the biggest club by a mile.

Let's not also lose sight of the fact that Adkins has not only failed, he's done so against very mediocre opposition this season too. No Wolves this time around.

Not saying this bloke is the answer but the alternative is hoping that Adkins approaches the next season in a totally different, almost opposite manner to the last. I'm not sure where the biggest leap of faith is there. I'd take a change just not to sign Hammond!
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"....He might even come in, see the size of the club and budget and see it for what it should be - an opportunity to steamroll a division in which you are the biggest club by a mile......"

This is the main point for me! Whether it is Adkins or a new manager, for gods sake, wake up and understand that we are a huge club in League 1, in fact we would be a huge club in the Championship.

Get some hard nosed players in, get the fans on side, make BDTBL the fortress of yesteryear, and get out of this division once and for all, no "will they, won't they" no play offs. Automatic!
 
Of he can speak in English I am in. I did load up football manager and it's not even broken English on there :(
 
Dkc said:
Could be that that Baki and the Prince are well-pissed off with the team's performance this season. They didn't buy into this, and are perhaps more reluctant to give Adkins another season. McCabe, on the other hand, has seen it all since sacking Warnock, and may be more reluctant to sack yet another manager. The Prince may not be a billionaire but I'm sure he has a million quid he could throw at the club to take care of pay offs etc

It could be another massive mistake, but on the other hand who's to say we wouldn't piss the league with a few new foreign players and a Turkish Keegan in charge
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Or the real thing, he's only 65 and likes a challenge. almost local lad to. :)
 
Grappler said:
we are a huge club in League 1, in fact we would be a huge club in the Championship.
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You got carried away.

Fairly big in League 1, bang average sized club in the Championship.
 
The prince has been anxious about the way his funding has been spent for a long time, which has resulted in the previous changes in strategy. If this is a goer the Prince is having his way, as there isn't the appetite among the other board members for another sacking. I'd ask, if now, why not earlier in the season when it was more palatable for everyone? If it happens, I think the financial parameters will have shifted and we'll have a middling championship budget. Information coming from the Prince's end is hard to come by and it may be very old news.
 
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Dkc said:
Punt in the dark. No experience in English football. It's a big no for me.
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Kev Gee said:
Any managerial appointment is a gamble. No fucker had heard of Arsene Wenger when he joined arsenal or Pochetino at Southampton.

Im in no way saying that he will be a success, but noone knows for sure weather he will be a failure either.
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Yes Kev You make a telling point where you talk about the ucertainty.
Should we replicate our 'new manager' every season, resulting every time in failure' this time with a guy whose record is not all that good;or do we stay with Afkins, who no doubt has plans and players set up to take us up? Afkins for me stability, and past success
 
Sirius said:
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Yes Kev You make a telling point where you talk about the ucertainty.
Should we replicate our 'new manager' every season, resulting every time in failure' this time with a guy whose record is not all that good;or do we stay with Afkins, who no doubt has plans and players set up to take us up? Afkins for me stability, and past success
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not now he has lost the fans.. even the waverers.. he'll never get that back.. he slit his own throat
 

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