Embracing short-termism

[Champagneblade]

Not some Keynesian post about in the long term us all being dead!

But I do think we need to be prepared to support some unpopular, unpalatable decisions for the longer term good of the club by compromising on some of our ideals.

By this I'd accept selling off both Che Adams and Dominic Calvert-Lewin if it meant exchanging their potential for players currently in their prime.

On an individual basis I'd prefer Adams over say Leon Clarke but which one does history tell you will bag 16-20 goals if aboard?

If selling DCL meant Wilder getting McFadzean or having to lower his sights, once more I think I'd rather go with the now.

My logic is two fold really:

1. We aren't going to go up based on players who may be consistently good in 2 years' time.

2. As a league one club, we are vulnerable to players being attracted to playing at a higher level. At least in the league above you just have to worry about Premier League poachers. We've got 44 clubs who can offer a better playing experience than we can now.

If Wilder needs to sacrifice a few young lambs to go into battle with a few more seasoned Rams (and I don't mean Derby rejects!), then I'm fine with that.

This season has to be about getting out of a division that we shouldn't be in then sacrifices may need to be made.

We can entertain more long term strategising in the Championship. For now, the goal has to be singular - get a team together who know what is expected and can deliver regularly. We can't accommodate many learning curves and inconsistencies any more. We've already been left behind far too much.

 

[Classof85]

I agree but got a feeling you may need a hard hat at the ready

 

[FriethBlade]

Don't we learn anything, we've been sacrificing our young and better players the last 10 years and most of the money hasn't been reinvested or if it has its been spent on old , slow, mercanries looking for a last contract.

Don't mind seeing DCL go as he won't be used much, he was mostly sub for Wilder in div two but Adams can be a top player and we need to keep him

 

[metalblade]

1/ Want all players signed up for pre season training (23rd June).
2/ 2-3 coming in next week. (players on holiday)
3/ 2-3 coming in next week. (players still on holiday)
4/ might need to move some out before we can bring more in.
5/ 2-3 going out and 2-3 coming in
6/ rumours of interest in Adams, Brayford and now DCL
7/ we all know the rest dont we guys ............................. promises that money recieved will be invested in the team .............................. every year is the fucking same.

 

[s10blade]

Well, we've always followed 90% of that model. We always sell our future, we have just failed to invest properly in adequate replacements.

For me, I'd be gutted if we sold Adams because history tells you that those in charge haven't got it in them to suitable replace.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Exactly that.
Anyone who thinks selling our talented players is a good idea needs to remember the ability in this club to a) find good players. And b) sign good players.

Incompetent is a word not used enough when describing this board.

Adams is the exact type of player you build around. Talented, unpredictable and able to win you a game from nowhere. We don't have the ability at board level to just go out and find his replacement, we just end up a similar side to the 80% of sides in l1.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Exactly that.
Anyone who thinks selling our talented players is a good idea needs to remember the ability in this club to a) find good players. And b) sign good players.

Incompetent is a word not used enough when describing this board.

Adams is the exact type of player you build around. Talented, unpredictable and able to win you a game from nowhere. We don't have the ability at board level to just go out and find his replacement, we just end up a similar side to the 80% of sides in l1.

"Whelk stall" and "couldn't run" are the words which spring most readily to mind

 

[pommpey]

Yeah. I agree. Let's get rid of Adams. And Brayford, Done, DCL and even Sharp.

Being in the Championship is grossly over-rated anyway.

I'd rather be in div four to be honest.

pommpey

 

[Grizzly blade]

We still haven't replaced Maguire btw!

 

[Trueblade]

Lets give Wilder a chance, there's plenty of time for transfers yet. The poor blokes being tarnished by what those before him have done. I understand things don't look great for us at the moment and there are obviously some major questions in our ability to stump up money.

First and foremost, if Wilder puts out a team that want to wear that beautiful red and white shirt, get stuck in and work there socks off, I can live with that. What I can't bear is seeing last seasons boring performances by a group of players who have no interest in playing for us, and watching us get bullied week after week. UTB!!

 

[blade too long]

Football has always been about the short term in essence
hence the following
we cant look past the next game
we arent thinking about the midweek game just saturdays
we take it one game at a time

there isnt a player in last seasons squad who cant be sacrificed for a replacement
none of them were stand out players , not one
I wouldnt mind if all 44 , well some said it was 44 in our BLOATED squad got sold for just 24 good ones

another complaint amazingly is we are leaving ourselves short of players
complaints from the same people who bemoaned us being a vastly bloated squad last term

theres no pleasing some people

 

[pommpey]

Lets give Wilder a chance, there's plenty of time for transfers yet. The poor blokes being tarnished by what those before him have done. I understand things don't look great for us at the moment and there are obviously some major questions in our ability to stump up money.

First and foremost, if Wilder puts out a team that want to wear that beautiful red and white shirt, get stuck in and work there socks off, I can live with that. What I can't bear is seeing last seasons boring performances by a group of players who have no interest in playing for us, and watching us get bullied week after week. UTB!!

It isn't Wilder, FFS. This 'let's give HIM a chance' mantra comes out every fucking year, be it Nigels , Davids or Dannys. The bloke with the cash is McCabe. I don't doubt Wilder has his eyes on many targets, all of them parts of his jigsaw.

The person who gives him the cash for that is McCabe.

I'd like to see McCabe fess up how skint we are and why we are.

pommpey

 

[Revolution]

I'd be quite relaxed about DCL going for a seven figure fee. I see no indication he's ever going to amount to much.

I wouldn't sell Adams. He has shown he can score goals at this level. We need players like that to get promoted.

 

[blade too long]

It isn't Wilder, FFS. This 'let's give HIM a chance' mantra comes out every fucking year, be it Nigels , Davids or Dannys. The bloke with the cash is McCabe. I don't doubt Wilder has his eyes on many targets, all of them parts of his jigsaw.

The person who gives him the cash for that is McCabe.

I'd like to see McCabe fess up how skint we are and why we are.

pommpey

so whats your suggestion

moan and complain no matter who comes in
see the negative in every move
slag off every member of staff as useless feckers

There is a budgert
lets see what it is first eh

 

[pommpey]

Football has always been about the short term in essence
hence the following
we cant look past the next game
we arent thinking about the midweek game just saturdays
we take it one game at a time

there isnt a player in last seasons squad who cant be sacrificed for a replacement
none of them were stand out players , not one
I wouldnt mind if all 44 , well some said it was 44 in our BLOATED squad got sold for just 24 good ones

another complaint amazingly is we are leaving ourselves short of players
complaints from the same people who bemoaned us being a vastly bloated squad last term

theres no pleasing some people

We had a bloated squad because we had a glut of worthless, talentless wage stealers. They weren't exactly 'purchased' were they? They were more of 'warming benches at nether clubs' and the wreckage and flotsam of changed management teams. Not as though the manager targets these chimps, rather than 'fat kid left unpicked at the end' stuff.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

so whats your suggestion

moan and complain no matter who comes in
see the negative in every move
slag off every member of staff as useless feckers

There is a budgert
lets see what it is first eh

My suggestion is McCabe makes plans and fucks off. It's a bit 'Brexit', innit, by design?

The McCabe era will go down in Blades history as one of incremental decay and decline, topped with incompetence and failure.

He can do two things:

1. Show real commitment and invest more money into a failure he has presided over way past any player of manager involvement

2. Cut his losses and sell the club.

Now forgive me for moaning and complaining, but McCabe has threaded himself into the workings of Sheffield United so integrally, that selling the club is almost impossible, so we are effectively stuck with him. And he has shown that he is totally unable to either engage the right team manager, or support that managers ambitions by not selling his star players or providing him with the resources to strengthen the squad.

Yeah, negative in every move, eh?

I am not slagging off members of staff. I am slagging off McCabe. Singular. I'd also like to see the gained value of Selahattin Baki (or whatever his name is) please, and what drivers were prioritised in spunking the cost of two central defenders on a fucking pitch.

Moan, moan, moan.

You got the answers to this, feller?

pommpey

 

[BushBlade]

My suggestion is McCabe makes plans and fucks off. It's a bit 'Brexit', innit, by design?

The McCabe era will go down in Blades history as one of incremental decay and decline, topped with incompetence and failure.

He can do two things:

1. Show real commitment and invest more money into a failure he has presided over way past any player of manager involvement

2. Cut his losses and sell the club.

Now forgive me for moaning and complaining, but McCabe has threaded himself into the workings of Sheffield United so integrally, that selling the club is almost impossible, so we are effectively stuck with him. And he has shown that he is totally unable to either engage the right team manager, or support that managers ambitions by not selling his star players or providing him with the resources to strengthen the squad.

Yeah, negative in every move, eh?

I am not slagging off members of staff. I am slagging off McCabe. Singular. I'd also like to see the gained value of Selahattin Baki (or whatever his name is) please, and what drivers were prioritised in spunking the cost of two central defenders on a fucking pitch.

Moan, moan, moan.

You got the answers to this, feller?

pommpey

Surely the other important question is who paid for the pitch? The company that owns the club or the company that owns the ground? And, continuing from that, what kind of lease do we actually have; fully repairing and insuring?

 

[metalblade]

Wasting your time pommpey old blade too long is a bit like Adolf in the bunker at the start of May 1945

 

[Worksop II]

Wasting your time pommpey old blade too long is a bit like Adolf in the bunker at the start of May 1945

Hopefully the Russians are commin ..................

 

[1danewhitehouse]

We still haven't replaced Maguire btw!

It's not even been 2 years yet! God our fans are so impatient.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Football has always been about the short term in essence
hence the following
we cant look past the next game
we arent thinking about the midweek game just saturdays
we take it one game at a time

there isnt a player in last seasons squad who cant be sacrificed for a replacement
none of them were stand out players , not one
I wouldnt mind if all 44 , well some said it was 44 in our BLOATED squad got sold for just 24 good ones

another complaint amazingly is we are leaving ourselves short of players
complaints from the same people who bemoaned us being a vastly bloated squad last term

theres no pleasing some people

Because everyone knows that if we've tried having a squad of forty odd shitheads or a squad with no centre half then we've obviously made all reasonable attempts to please people. Clearly there isn't an alternative option.

 

[David Lee's first touch]

It's not even been 2 years yet! God our fans are so impatient.

Coffee on keyboard moment cheers Dane brightened my day up

 

[Fozzy_Blade]

1/ Want all players signed up for pre season training (23rd June).
2/ 2-3 coming in next week. (players on holiday)
3/ 2-3 coming in next week. (players still on holiday)
4/ might need to move some out before we can bring more in.
5/ 2-3 going out and 2-3 coming in
6/ rumours of interest in Adams, Brayford and now DCL
7/ we all know the rest dont we guys ............................. promises that money recieved will be invested in the team .............................. every year is the fucking same.

Hit the nail on the head! #UTB

 

[Sheffsteel]

Can't we do an instant buy back deal?

It's clear that any players we sell instantly become great players overnight and any players we buy or give big contracts to stay are poor.

So if we sell Che for 1 million to Rotherham then he's the biggest talent outside the PL and a future England regular.

Then the week after we can buy Vhe back for 1 million. Surely those fans would be impressed with the ambition?

We gave Che a massive contract last season and very quickly everyone was saying Che has lost his mojo and not that good.

To be fair it's always tricky to put a value on POTENTIAL especially on young players. Only wealthy clubs can take the risk and at the moment we can't compete with Championship clubs never mind PL clubs.