Edgar's "bad day at the office"

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Most people (who matter) will have seen Edgar's unfortunate contributions to Bradford's goals and deduce that he was having an off day. What I saw was an unfortunate headed clearance to a space that would have been difficult for him to see as he was watching a ball coming in from the wing. The fact that it went to an unmarked Bradford striker was as much down to the slack marking by a colleague as down to him for not putting the ball out for a corner.

The second, ironically, came about through trying to put the ball out for a corner but hitting Cole's foot and it rebounding past Howard.

Edgar has improved the centre of the defence enormously since his arrival and I believe that it just wasn't his lucky day at Bradford.

Please don't get on his back and put this blip behind us all
 



Hodgyman said:
Most people (who matter) will have seen Edgar's unfortunate contributions to Bradford's goals and deduce that he was having an off day. What I saw was an unfortunate headed clearance to a space that would have been difficult for him to see as he was watching a ball coming in from the wing. The fact that it went to an unmarked Bradford striker was as much down to the slack marking by a colleague as down to him for not putting the ball out for a corner.

The second, ironically, came about through trying to put the ball out for a corner but hitting Cole's foot and it rebounding past Howard.

Edgar has improved the centre of the defence enormously since his arrival and I believe that it just wasn't his lucky day at Bradford.

Please don't get on his back and put this blip behind us all
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Sorry, but if McEv had perpetrated those crimes he would have been hung out for them, vilified, ridiculed, slated for breathing.

Edgar has looked decidedly dodgy since returning from international duty
Maybe it's a virus and Edgar has contracted it. That's as good an explanation as any, isn't it?
 
dannysufc_ said:
Why people keep saying things like 'If Mceveley had made these mistakes blah blah' etc. I have no idea.

McEveley makes these mistakes every game. Edgar doesn't. That's the be all and end all of it.
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If my girlfriend stood on my headphones I'd probably forgive her.

If she went around my house smashing up my TV, windows, tearing up my clothes and biting my bollocks, I'd probably get rid.
 
dannysufc_ said:
Why people keep saying things like 'If Mceveley had made these mistakes blah blah' etc. I have no idea.

McEveley makes these mistakes every game. Edgar doesn't. That's the be all and end all of it.
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Spot on, nuff said
 
Hodgyman said:
Most people (who matter) will have seen Edgar's unfortunate contributions to Bradford's goals and deduce that he was having an off day. What I saw was an unfortunate headed clearance to a space that would have been difficult for him to see as he was watching a ball coming in from the wing. The fact that it went to an unmarked Bradford striker was as much down to the slack marking by a colleague as down to him for not putting the ball out for a corner.

The second, ironically, came about through trying to put the ball out for a corner but hitting Cole's foot and it rebounding past Howard.

Edgar has improved the centre of the defence enormously since his arrival and I believe that it just wasn't his lucky day at Bradford.

Please don't get on his back and put this blip behind us all
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Edgar's header was unfortunate and into an area he deemed safe away from goal (yes an error) however......

If Howard had attacked the ball, spread and dived at feet, I have no doubt he would have saved it. Instead he dived to one side to avoid his hands body head being anywhere near the strikers feet. In laymans terms, he bottled it.

Check for yourselves 55 seconds into the Sky match video.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...aliser-brings-blades-back-from-two-goals-down

Having watched it again, had he been given instructions to make an attempt but dive out of the way he couldn't have done it much better.
 
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Some Bradford fan was on Facebook yesterday saying Edgar was a cheat who was constantly elbowing Hanson. Didn't see any of that on TV.
 
Hodgyman said:
Most people (who matter) will have seen Edgar's unfortunate contributions to Bradford's goals and deduce that he was having an off day. What I saw was an unfortunate headed clearance to a space that would have been difficult for him to see as he was watching a ball coming in from the wing. The fact that it went to an unmarked Bradford striker was as much down to the slack marking by a colleague as down to him for not putting the ball out for a corner.

The second, ironically, came about through trying to put the ball out for a corner but hitting Cole's foot and it rebounding past Howard.

Edgar has improved the centre of the defence enormously since his arrival and I believe that it just wasn't his lucky day at Bradford.

Please don't get on his back and put this blip behind us all
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He did seem rather unfortunate and like most of us agree on here it was a poor performance all round from our team. We can thank OG and Baxter for saving us yesterday.
 



stannyblade said:
Some Bradford fan was on Facebook yesterday saying Edgar was a cheat who was constantly elbowing Hanson. Didn't see any of that on TV.
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I was just about to ask about this. I didn't see him using his elbows but he did seem to have his hands all over him second half - though without getting penalised by what was generally a good ref.

I was surprised this didn't crop up in the View From thread.

Then Cole was subbed.

I recognise he got the goal, but I wonder how much Edgar was genuinely up against it, and how much he outfought a young player - who probably learned a lot from the experience.
 
To be fair, I think he's a tad unlucky on both goals. The first he seems to misjudge the flight of the ball, which is how it ends up going where it does. The second, he gets outdone for pace but then manages to get a toe in which ricocheted into the striker.
 
Hodgyman said:
Most people (who matter) will have seen Edgar's unfortunate contributions to Bradford's goals and deduce that he was having an off day. What I saw was an unfortunate headed clearance to a space that would have been difficult for him to see as he was watching a ball coming in from the wing. The fact that it went to an unmarked Bradford striker was as much down to the slack marking by a colleague as down to him for not putting the ball out for a corner.

The second, ironically, came about through trying to put the ball out for a corner but hitting Cole's foot and it rebounding past Howard.

Edgar has improved the centre of the defence enormously since his arrival and I believe that it just wasn't his lucky day at Bradford.

Please don't get on his back and put this blip behind us all
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We've had a bad spell with hardly anyone looking good and it's been a good chance for everybody to throw some extra abuse at their least favourite player.

Again, people are far too harsh on individuals. We have to get our rhythm back, we have to get the team balanced in such a way that we're looking strong defensively and offensively. Hard to create against, difficult to defend against. We've lost that and swapping one current pet hate figure for one of the lads on the bench won't necessarily do much to turn it around.

For me our formation has become a big problem of late. Our four selected midfielders have struggled to cover enough space defensively and have looked too static and rigid going forward. In the last three matches our opposition have seemed to figure us out, both our weaknesses and what we're trying to be good at. When it's like that you end up with situations where opposition players get too much time on the ball - to play a through ball, to make a cross, to have a shot - with a little more accuracy, a little more power, and then you also get the slip ups.

The formation change at Bradford made a difference. It's not always a good idea to stick with a team that have succeeded in getting back into a game (Sammon, Sharp and McNulty may be a tad too attacking), but there were elements that we can bring with us, as we prepare for the next game.
 
Bergen Blade said:
We've had a bad spell with hardly anyone looking good and it's been a good chance for everybody to throw some extra abuse at their least favourite player.

Again, people are far too harsh on individuals. We have to get our rhythm back, we have to get the team balanced in such a way that we're looking strong defensively and offensively. Hard to create against, difficult to defend against. We've lost that and swapping one current pet hate figure for one of the lads on the bench won't necessarily do much to turn it around.

For me our formation has become a big problem of late. Our four selected midfielders have struggled to cover enough space defensively and have looked too static and rigid going forward. In the last three matches our opposition have seemed to figure us out, both our weaknesses and what we're trying to be good at. When it's like that you end up with situations where opposition players get too much time on the ball - to play a through ball, to make a cross, to have a shot - with a little more accuracy, a little more power, and then you also get the slip ups.

The formation change at Bradford made a difference. It's not always a good idea to stick with a team that have succeeded in getting back into a game (Sammon, Sharp and McNulty may be a tad too attacking), but there were elements that we can bring with us, as we prepare for the next game.
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Post of the Month for September.
 
stannyblade said:
Some Bradford fan was on Facebook yesterday saying Edgar was a cheat who was constantly elbowing Hanson. Didn't see any of that on TV.
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Hanson should have been sent off in first half, for flailing his arms about. Caught one of our players, who was behind him, in the face with his hand. Cant remember if we got anything for it though?..
 
Awful defending from Edgar for both goals, the first he put right back in the mix from a free header - he should have put it 20 yards up the field away from danger. He was awful second half against Colchester as well, so that must 1 and 1/2 bad days at the office! All similar type mistakes that McEveley was making last season at centre half, and for which he was rightly criticised. This season however I reckon he's getting the shitty end of the stick for mistakes that weren't his, the first 2 goals v Bury for example, and the third one he got a shove in the back.

Agree with another poster on this thread, we need a few bastards in the team, especially one at centre half.
 
If he puts in another performance like that he should be shipped off back to Brum or Canada, our own players being shit is bad enough, loan players being equally shit (or worse) is pointless. Yes, the first goal could have been cleared by Basham or Howard, but in either case they'd bea clearing up for Edgar's piss-weak header towards his own goal. Second goal, he was slow, unresponsive and could have got rid long before he kicked it onto the Bradford player into the net. Howard could probably have stopped it if he'd come out quicker, but it was still Edgar's fault.

The problem is, it wasn't just the goals, his all-round play was slow, sloppy and poorly positioned, Cole getting subbed was the best thing that happened for Edgar as he looked a complete liability every time the ball went near him. Fortunately for him Bradford put Davis on and decided to stop attacking. When Neil bloody Collins is stood shaking his head at how shit you are, there's something wrong. Hopefully it was just a blip and he goes back to the form he had before the international break, but it's ridiculous to pretend that he was just unlucky with the goals, his performance was worse than McEveley.
 
Bergen Blade said:
We've had a bad spell with hardly anyone looking good and it's been a good chance for everybody to throw some extra abuse at their least favourite player.

Again, people are far too harsh on individuals. We have to get our rhythm back, we have to get the team balanced in such a way that we're looking strong defensively and offensively. Hard to create against, difficult to defend against. We've lost that and swapping one current pet hate figure for one of the lads on the bench won't necessarily do much to turn it around.

For me our formation has become a big problem of late. Our four selected midfielders have struggled to cover enough space defensively and have looked too static and rigid going forward. In the last three matches our opposition have seemed to figure us out, both our weaknesses and what we're trying to be good at. When it's like that you end up with situations where opposition players get too much time on the ball - to play a through ball, to make a cross, to have a shot - with a little more accuracy, a little more power, and then you also get the slip ups.

The formation change at Bradford made a difference. It's not always a good idea to stick with a team that have succeeded in getting back into a game (Sammon, Sharp and McNulty may be a tad too attacking), but there were elements that we can bring with us, as we prepare for the next game.
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I said similar yesterday Bergs ,that trio would be too narrow ,I would hope to include JCR ,Flynn or Done as a roving player ,maybe even Adams with Sammon and Sharp for strength and ability. I haven't seen anything in Woolford yet to suggest he is worth a shirt in either the midfield 3 or the top 3 and don't think McNulty is consistent enough. Mcnulty ,baxter and JCR would be on the bench for me as they are great impact players but seldom affect a game over 90 minutes.
 
Edgar has been very dodgy the last three games, what i've noticed the most is his mistiming of the ball in the air on a numerous of occasions, not just the Bradford game. Whilst it's not the end of the world, it has to be concerning that our supposable best defender is gradually getting worse game by game. Those that have watched the last three games will know what i'm talking about regarding this and it isn't just one bad day at the office so to speak, he's just got away with it more in the other games whereas the Bradford game was a step too far. Adkins has a big job on his hand to regain the form he had prior to the fucking stupid international break, they do my bleedin head in.
 
I thought it was definitely a bad day at the office for Edgar - some poor decisions and couldn't handle Cole, but no-one in the defence really emerged with any real kudos - Howard reverted back to not dominating the box, flapping and not communicating with his CH's, McEvelely couldn't handle his man (we looked better with Alcock and Freeman as the FBs' though Freeman still struggled with the guy that destroyed McEveley).

Thought it was a terrible header by Edgar for their first (header should be upfield or out - he wasn't challenged but seemed to lose the flight).Basham looked favorite for the ball to me but he was asleep on his heels and left it to Howard - or did he shout for it? ( couldn't see them scoring if Howard stayed put and Basham put in the clearance or block).Also JCR was having a snooze and didn't cover their no3's run whilst Freeman was way out of position and ambling back showing no urgency, Collins went to cover the line as a token gesture as the ball was already on its way in. Piss poor throughout and lead in our boots.

They blitzed us in the first half and exploited our plan to play it out from the back without having a long ball option ( allowing them to play a much higher line). I don't think McNuts and Sharp as a pairing was the answer. Adkins subs were very good I thought as well as the shift to 433. Sammons introduction forced their defence back and created the space for us to play. I thought our second goal was superb - the Baxter pass and Sharp's control and persistence. We still need a quality CH and MF. Too many goals conceded.
 
Tyler Durden said:
My only criticism of Edgar is that he's not enough of an arsehole.
We're crying out for some bastards in the team to show a bit of a spine. Especially defensively.
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I wish we'd signed Bostwick from P'Boro. Proper big, bald, strong, nasty bastard. Can play in the midfield or defence.
 



wizadry said:
The only problem there Dan is he's shit at football.
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He's not that bad at all, his performance at the Lane last season when they beat us was superb. If he can perform like that it's then about consistency. Got a decent appearance and scoring record for a defender/midfielder who's 'shit at football' too...
 
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