Do we or don't we

[FMBlade1]

https://www.s24su.com/forum/threads/if-we-did-go-up.88963/

Already a thread on it

 

[blade too long]

of course youd take any chance of promotion
firstly if the squads good enough to go up there must be some talent
secondly there 150 million reasons its worthwhile
just because money was squandered last time surely someone at the Lane has learned a few lessons

and look at the dross thats gone up and stayed up

hull stayed up with 34 or 35 points were a dreadful team
Blackpool got up there
Barnsley nearly managed to stay there
Bradford Cardiff and Huddersfield all not any better than we are now stayed up a season

 

[Cappy]

I'd imagine not many would vote yes.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

The philosophy for any football club has to be to improve, and the best way to improve the club is by promotion. The day the club owner is satisfied with standing still in todays football, is the day the club starts on that slippery down hill slope to failure..
I personally think Mr McCabe did this after demotion and the Brian Robson debacle,
I just hope HRH doesn't make the same mistake after Slav gate .....

 

[Stanthemanfan]

If this team went up I think our record of not having pig style hammerings would be under serious threat

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Importantly, being in the Premiership lifts our profile across the world.

We could always become the Rotherham of the Championship and be a snakes and ladders team going up one season, then down, then back up again.

 

[Mumbo]

100% agree with that !

I've never been to a game and not wanted the win, so promotion or not, are both the same imposters. Play well with good football- great, play Basset ball - then not so good- as the neck pain is distracting ! Just win every game and dont worry about who the opposition are.

^This^
Saying you don’t want promotion is like saying your‘e happy with losing.
The Gulf is massive and getting bigger between the Prem and the championship.
Norwich pissed the Champ last year and are struggling this.Nearly every promoted team is odds on for bottom 3
in the Prem and so it will be with Fulham next season …..so what?,that’s modern moneyball.
Our first year back in the Prem will be remembered and talked about long after the second year is forgotten.
Promotion A.S.A.P

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

It would be good to have a couple (at least ) of seasons in the Prem without the restrictions of Covid.

 

[JJBlade]

Take promotion every time

United's problem is always the same problem,

They try to survive with Championship standard players, and not only Championship standard players, but Championship standard players that have no idea how to play the Blllaaaaaayyyyyhhhddesss Wahhhhhyyyy

 

[Old Programme seller]

If you don’t want to go up inevitably you’ll end up going down and we know that story too well.

 

[guancheblade]

Why wouldn't you want to compete at the highest level?

A huge IF we somehow managed to make up ground and got promotion I'm sure we would do some things differently this time round.

Pretty sure more £ would be put into the facilities this time round.

Yeah, can't imagine HRH spending the cash on players like he did last time we were there.

 

[Bell4]

Yeah, can't imagine HRH spending the cash on players like he did last time we were there.

Maybe he wouldn’t as giving someone control didn’t work

I however think Hecky would be more sensible than CW.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Promotion is always a good idea.

 

[Mag-83]

I would take a season in the premier league even if were spanked week in, week out. If the £100m or so is properly utilised if we were to be promoted again, then it would secure the finances of the club for years to come.

 

[pommpey]

I'd take promotion to the big boys league but a few issues trouble me:

1. The current squad is looking more capable, but doubt good enough in strength and depth to get much from the next ten games

2. The current squad has too many flat spots, inconsistencies and errors in it to get into the playoffs and get past the final. Compare if you will how Wilder's promotion side didn't have that, and I am talking about Fleck and Norwood here too. We were a force to be feared then. Watching Birmingham burst up the pitch last game and score easily doesn't fill me with that hope.

3. The current squad's better players are either transfer targets, old, or not ours by ownership. The ones outside those categories are where we fail during key moments

4. Were we to get lucky and secure a playoff place, get through the three, high-expectation and high-intensity matches and rid the monkey on our shoulders of 'the playoffs', many of those players know they will be playing for fuck all because next season they definitely won't have the capacity to play in the Premier League and guarantee one place above relegation. And for those that do believe they will be in for a big payday, they will have to up their playing output unbelievably to not be ragged week in, week out.

5. Finally, the expectation on us going up and staying up will be supremely vast. To that end, HRH and the board will have to spend big (possibly twice what Wilder spent) and more importantly spend wise. We will have to stop rummaging in the bargain bin for the chance that a good penny will come from nowhere, and stop buying on impulse. We will have to bid for, and bring to BTDBL, some fucking skilful and dazzlingly quick players. For that to happen and for them to agree we will have to convince them and their agents we are worth joining and we'll be doing what Palace, Burnley, Southampton, Wolves, Brighton, Villa even Leeds are currently doing and that our first season wasn't what it appears to have been, a fucking fluke (as proven by season two) and we can't blame our failures on shit like COVID. We will also have to convince signing targets about Hecky's potential to have us stay in the top flight for between five and ten seasons and the brand of Sheffield United is in the headlines and on top telly well into the next social media/communications/television revolution, whenever that is.

Shit or bust it is. We may do ourselves a favour by missing this bus simply because the rebuild may take longer and to purge Wilder properly takes time, but next season and some outs replaced by decent ins should see us in the top six for most of the campaign hopefully. We need replacements all over the park, LCB ... LWB ... both midfielders, need a Billy and Didsy replacement, get shut of the failures and reinvest. It can be done.

pommpey

 

[JayGreen17]

Ridiculous thread…..

 

[SwindonBladeJnr]

Ridiculous thread…..

Yeah, without wishing to be harsh on anyone who thinks differently, answer is: take promotion every single time with no exceptions.

Worry about how you navigate the step up once you get there.

 

[Old Programme seller]

It’s a bit of a pipe dream but a good focal point don’t forget at the beginning of the season we were all musing about automatic promotion I think as a club we’re still hurting from last season but we’re ‘getting through it’ the best we can. I do agree that we’d be in for a kicking with the current squad if we went up we’ve been wanting a new midfield for 3 seasons and we haven’t had a regular goal scorer under the age of 30 since Ched Evans, last promotion we had momentum and positivity I don’t feel that now.

 

[JJBlade]

It’s a bit of a pipe dream but a good focal point don’t forget at the beginning of the season we were all musing about automatic promotion I think as a club we’re still hurting from last season but we’re ‘getting through it’ the best we can. I do agree that we’d be in for a kicking with the current squad if we went up we’ve been wanting a new midfield for 3 seasons and we haven’t had a regular goal scorer under the age of 30 since Ched Evans, last promotion we had momentum and positivity I don’t feel that now.

Well, if you can't improve on what you've got when you've been promoted to the Premier League it's time to give up.

I mean really, what sort of team gets promoted to the Premier League, spends two years there and comes down with a worse team than they got promoted with.......ooh err hang on

 

[JJBlade]

I thought Norwich spent the TV money to pay off their debts?

If you go up and don't buy anyone (and we've already payed for the necessary ground improvements) you'll make like £75 million. Some of that goes into wages, but otherwise....

Yes, they did
And now they are back having another cracking at it

They'll go down again, but it wouldn't surprise me if they went back up again because they are a tidy club that do things well on the pitch.

They play reasonably good football at Premier League level even though they get beat a lot, but that model of playing reasonably good football at Premier League level becomes playing excellent football at Championship level.

They don't try to rehash everything on a week to week basis because it didn't work last week, or because they are playing away from home and are scared of getting battered

 

[metalblade]

You always have to take promotion no matter what sort of squad you have and even if it means another shit show like the previous season, the financial rewards are that huge. Like it or not teams that get promoted and spend huge money to stay up still get relegated. Aston Villa were only saved by a ghost goal on their return, Fulham spent millions and still went down, it all ends up like Norwich who spend nothing and bank the cash. Most of the bottom half Premier league teams either have rich backers or have spent a number of years as yo yo clubs too good for the championship but not good enough to stay in the Premier league. Without a rich backer coming along the only way we can do it is probably by being a yo yo club for a while. If we should get promoted the first thing that needs to happen is a big spend not on players but on the academy facilities to bring it up to grade 1 then we can attract the best young kids and keep them, we know we produce good young player even now.

 

[ZLB]

I'm sure if we disregarded performances/results on the pitch and took a poll on whether we thought promotion this season was a good idea given the state of the squad, the lack of ambitious strategy and the financial situation we find ourselves in, I'd imagine not many would vote yes.

But it's getting pretty difficult to ignore the form book, and if we continue at this rate then like it or lump it we are in a playoff campaign at the very least. Which got me thinking about our realistic promotion chances and subsequent survival in the PL. Then this thought popped in my head...

MGW and Ndiaye are both better than any player we had the last time we went up.

Agree or disagree? If so, what does that mean for next season should we get promoted?

No no no let’s not get promoted. God no. Let’s wait 12-14 years like we normally do. Of course you take promotion. Daft question.

 

[Blade.com]

Don’t think there’s a club out there that wouldn’t take promotion to the Premier league. Will we do it?...... don’t forget we’ve got the Blades way to consider, Brewster out for the duration, pick up another couple of injuries, a couple of red cards and this squad is on its knees. Just looking at the next months fixtures and the Covid postponed games are going to be a kick in the nads.
If the footballing Gods are watching they’ll certainly be nudging each other and saying “ Do we do Sheffield United again” then laugh. Somebody cheer me up.

 

[sufcboy95]

You never turn a promotion down

 

[ATL Recs]

Gotta agree with this, we need the cash and you never know, Hecky might finish 8th in the PL...

Nah but he might finish 8th once in the championship seen it so many times

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

If going up meant we could afford to pay up the contracts of the shite big money signings of Brewster, Mcburnie and Berge, then yeah, let's do it.

 

[metalblade]

If going up meant we could afford to pay up the contracts of the shite big money signings of Brewster, Mcburnie and Berge, then yeah, let's do it.

Yeah let's fill the squad with Nick Montgomery clones talent don't matter as long as they can run in circles all afternoon.

 

[Weston blade]

Take promotion every time , you never know what might happen, The prince could sell up, and we could get a owner who walks the walk instead of talking a good game. Hecky is doing a great job and won't be playing fantasy monopoly football with the money he would get.

 

[SwindonBladeJnr]

If going up meant we could afford to pay up the contracts of the shite big money signings of Brewster, Mcburnie and Berge, then yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, that'd be a great use of the PL money

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

Yeah let's fill the squad with Nick Montgomery clones talent don't matter as long as they can run in circles all afternoon.

Be great to time Berge and Mcburnie trying to run around in a circle actually. We could pit them up against an oil tanker. My money's on the boat.....