Do these knockbacks make us stronger ?

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I was thinking back to when Paul Coutts got injured, think it was about Nov/Oct time 2017 wasn't it, one player but it seemed like the end of the world at the time,
We'd reached No1 first time back in the Championship for yonks and we were on track for back to back promotions, then disaster struck, because we lost that one seemingly irreplaceable player.
Think we finished 10th dint we.
But the Boss got up brushed his sen down and went out and bought Ollie Norwood and the following season was business as usual with promotion to the Prem, and that's what I like about Mr Wilder he not only sorts it out he usually makes the team stronger as well, bit by bit no matter what knockbacks we get along the way.
I know we sometimes get over impatient and at my age I want him to hurry up while I'm still here to see it but I'm certain that lad will eventually get us where we want to be sure as eggs are eggs,
I've got a feeling in mi water........ ;)
 



In the past we have and I don't expect Wilder to stay downbeat about it for long either.
 
I remember all the doom and gloom on here after we lost 3-0 at Middlesbrough at the start of the last season. There was talk of a relegation battle.

Wilder loves proving the “noise and nonsense” wrong. He’ll turn this around.
 
Gives us a reality check. Shows that we need to work harder than the opposition to compete in games.
 
For sure it will make us stronger!
Wilder and the backroom staff is certainly learning from all this experience, it is the first time managing in the top league.
He is going to learn from this seasons transfers dealing, how teams set up against them, balancing any egos (if we have any in the team?) , how to deal with the referees and technology ect.
We have exceeded any expectations we could have had at the start of this season, its not been perfect, maybe some transfers were too much, maybe some team selections or subs have been bad at times.
However this season ends, it has been a big success and I'm sure Wilder will certainly know how to improve for next season.
 
I remember all the doom and gloom on here after we lost 3-0 at Middlesbrough at the start of the last season. There was talk of a relegation battle.

Wilder loves proving the “noise and nonsense” wrong. He’ll turn this around.
I wonder what formation we started that game with... 🤔😅
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And following this went back to the trusty number 10 and service resumed in the most beautiful way. Wouldnt mind us trying the same now... 🙃
 
I remember all the doom and gloom on here after we lost 3-0 at Middlesbrough at the start of the last season. There was talk of a relegation battle.

Wilder loves proving the “noise and nonsense” wrong. He’ll turn this around.

More a case of proving himself wrong I would suggest .

Many of us said at the time that his decision to leave out both Billy and Duffs for the opening games was a mistake , and were vindicated by the results achieved when he was effectively forced into bringing them back in .
 
I was thinking back to when Paul Coutts got injured, think it was about Nov/Oct time 2017 wasn't it, one player but it seemed like the end of the world at the time,
We'd reached No1 first time back in the Championship for yonks and we were on track for back to back promotions, then disaster struck, because we lost that one seemingly irreplaceable player.
Think we finished 10th dint we.
But the Boss got up brushed his sen down and went out and bought Ollie Norwood and the following season was business as usual with promotion to the Prem, and that's what I like about Mr Wilder he not only sorts it out he usually makes the team stronger as well, bit by bit no matter what knockbacks we get along the way.
I know we sometimes get over impatient and at my age I want him to hurry up while I'm still here to see it but I'm certain that lad will eventually get us where we want to be sure as eggs are eggs,
I've got a feeling in mi water........ ;)

I was talking about this yesterday. History would suggest that we will have an even better season next year. CWAK will get their heads together and bring us back in stronger. We will adapt and strengthen.
That’s not to say I don’t think we’re a result away from finishing this campaign off we’ll also! UTB
 
To be honest, I'd be delighted if we are 8th after 30 games next season.

It's one thing being better than the championship teams but this is one the toughest tests in world football.
 
I don't think they make you stronger necessarily, they're just things that happen in sport that you have to adapt to.

Losing JOC is huge for us. We simply don't have anyone of that caliber on the bench. Losing Egan is the same. Losing Fleck for a game was a blow. Then going into the Man U game minus Hendo...

We've had the run of results we were always going to get this season. We all said this was likely to happen to us. And none of us thought we'd get this far before it did. We need to improve, but this isn't something that we should feel as though we've just learned. It was always the case that a couple of injuries could put in trouble, and it's a shame if we come so close to the European dream and fall short, but at least we've been able to dream.

I'm not going to say I haven't felt really disappointed with our last three games, but the circumstances have been difficult, and what's hurt me more is seeing the reaction of a subset of fans suddenly acting as though this is a situation to panic over, as though players as exciting and promising as Mousset has been are suddenly awful no-hopers over the space of a week.

But I do take the OP's point strongly in this sense: this is what happened to us in the first Championship season and the management team got together and found the way to improve us. I have no reason to think they aren't capable of continuing our trend, even if progress slows a little with the difficulty of competing at Prem level.
 
If the 'knockbacks' are turned into a positive which makes the team stronger then yes.


Teams like Palace and Burnley never consider themselves 'safe' of relegation before a ball is kicked, so I don't see why Sheffield United at this stage should be any different.
 
It makes you see who are the real supporters and who support the team when they are doing well.
 
More a case of proving himself wrong I would suggest .

Many of us said at the time that his decision to leave out both Billy and Duffs for the opening games was a mistake , and were vindicated by the results achieved when he was effectively forced into bringing them back in .
Spot on. I seem to remember our second half descent in the first season back in the Champ coincided with a mystifying (some would say stubborn) refusal to play Duffy and Sharp
 
I was thinking back to when Paul Coutts got injured, think it was about Nov/Oct time 2017 wasn't it, one player but it seemed like the end of the world at the time,
We'd reached No1 first time back in the Championship for yonks and we were on track for back to back promotions, then disaster struck, because we lost that one seemingly irreplaceable player.
Think we finished 10th dint we.
But the Boss got up brushed his sen down and went out and bought Ollie Norwood and the following season was business as usual with promotion to the Prem, and that's what I like about Mr Wilder he not only sorts it out he usually makes the team stronger as well, bit by bit no matter what knockbacks we get along the way.
I know we sometimes get over impatient and at my age I want him to hurry up while I'm still here to see it but I'm certain that lad will eventually get us where we want to be sure as eggs are eggs,
I've got a feeling in mi water........ ;)
Hasn’t he already got us where we want to be?

Anything else is an enormous bonus from here.
 
Happily our temporary drop in form has taken us back to the position of "rank outsiders" for tomorrow - which is where we are at our best.
 



It was always going to happen at some point. It will be a whole lot harder to bounce back this time round though.
 
Usually after we've had a crap result/performance, they'd come out all guns blazing in the next game. Not seen that yet but we need that tomorrow against an Arsenal team that's as weak as piss who we really need to get stuck into.
 
Spot on. I seem to remember our second half descent in the first season back in the Champ coincided with a mystifying (some would say stubborn) refusal to play Duffy and Sharp

Yer!!! I always blamed him for us finishing 2nd and cheating us out of a trip to Wembley and those penalty's at the end, but then again I'm always looking to find fault because I know more about the game than he does .......:rolleyes:
 
We always come back stronger under Wilder, that's what he does here and what he's done at other clubs.
 
Yer!!! I always blamed him for us finishing 2nd and cheating us out of a trip to Wembley and those penalty's at the end, but then again I'm always looking to find fault because I know more about the game than he does .......:rolleyes:
I submit myself to your teachings, oh your bigger bladeness 😴
 
The answer to the question about "Do these knockbacks make us stronger?" is

depends what you learn from them and how you respond to them.

And that applies not just to football, but to life.

I've every confidence in Chris Wilder - he's a smart chap and he's one of those people in life that get things done, I respect him for that. You've only got to look at how he's clawed his way up from non-league to where he is now and the clubs he's elevated along that journey. There aren't many managers in the modern game who've come up via that route, with that kind of track record. It's a fine testament to the man himself and we are lucky to have him as our manager and a fan of the club.

Having said all that, Chris Wilder would be unusual if he went through his managerial career, or life, without experiencing some setbacks. It's how you respond to them that matters.

People generally learn more from bad experiences than good experiences. That's because a bad experience usually makes us stop and think, maybe change our behaviour and do things to overcome the setback and avoid it happening in the future. Whereas, good experiences often breed complacency, because people think that they've found the winning formula and nothing needs to change when everything is going well (the saying, "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" is the watchword for such people).

And some people of course, don't learn from any experiences! There's a saying that "wisdom comes with age". But for some people, age comes alone. 😀

 
Wilder will eventually take this in his stride, like he has with every other professional challenge that has been put in front of him. Folk seem to think we are in the midst of some kind of crisis, simply because we have started poorly after an enforced break - which for those who may have been paying attention in recent years, is something that we have tended to do more often than not under Wilder.

He has a track record of motivating players beyond their means, in the toughest of environments and often without a pot to piss in. This is just another challenge to overcome, but he now does so from the strongest and most assured position that he has ever been in.

This guy knows what it is like to (metaphorically) live in a crappy bedsit, who struggles to start his car each day, just so he can get to a minimum wage job.
Now he finds himself waking up in a mansion, with a Bentley in the garage, but lo and behold the wine chiller has stopped working.
 

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