Disruptive players in dressing room

[chipsncake]

Do you really think he'd admit in public to there being problems in the dressing room?

Has any manager done this?

But Adkins has gone out of his way to praise the dressing room spirit and whose to say if there are problems they are not of his own making. Managing the different personalities and egos is part of the job and maybe he's found this difficult.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

But Adkins has gone out of his way to praise the dressing room spirit and whose to say if there are problems they are not of his own making. Managing the different personalities and egos is part of the job and maybe he's found this difficult.

Adkins is managing league 1 players on supposedly league 1 high end salaries . He does not have to deal with different cultures , languages , multi millionaires , egotistic players , high end top agents.

If he cannot man manage at our level , we really do have major problems . Bearing in mind man management is supposed to be Adkins forte .

Hope Adkins sorts it and makes it . I just couldn't be arsed having a new manager , and start again situation . Bad enough now I know .

UTB

 

[bladesmanluke]

But Adkins has gone out of his way to praise the dressing room spirit and whose to say if there are problems they are not of his own making. Managing the different personalities and egos is part of the job and maybe he's found this difficult.

"What's it like in the dressing room Nigel? Are the players hurting?"
"They should be."
"Is everybody at this club pulling in the same direction to get promotion?"
"That's what we need to happen"

Sorry mate, he's not gone out of his way to say it's all rosy at all.

 

[nopigfansintown]

"What's it like in the dressing room Nigel? Are the players hurting?"
"They should be."
"Is everybody at this club pulling in the same direction to get promotion?"
"That's what we need to happen"

Sorry mate, he's not gone out of his way to say it's all rosy at all.

These quotes are the reason why I'm laying the blame at the players' door.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Any actual evidence?

 

[BushBlade]

But Adkins has gone out of his way to praise the dressing room spirit and whose to say if there are problems they are not of his own making. Managing the different personalities and egos is part of the job and maybe he's found this difficult.

I think he's constantly being asked about it so has to answer.

He may well have problems. He's inherited a side assembled by someone who was a bit of a disciplinarian, a bit of an arse kicker; players who respond to that kind of management.
He's not really like that, he prefers players to take responsibility. It doesn't make him a bad manager, it makes him different to Clough. There's nothing he can do about that, he has to be true to himself. If he tries to be someone he's not the players will see right through him.

All he can do is to get the type of players that suit his style. It's up to the board to help him do this. If they're not prepared to do so, he'll struggle.

 

[TonyAgana]

A lot of people have legitimate concerns about Hammond but he may be here as Adkins eyes in the dressing room.

>>> FIRST FEASIBLE EXPLANATION AS TO HAMMOND'S INVISIBLE ROLE <<<

 

[BushBlade]

I'm just glad Cloughie's "background checks" were done thoroughly. A lot of people have legitimate concerns about Hammond but he may be here as Adkins eyes in the dressing room. Same as Clough's ex Derby lads.

But Simon had Pannini stickers of all our players before we signed them. What more could we do?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Fergie said : "one bad apple will spoil the barrel". He was extremely ruthless with Beckham, Keane, Stam etc. If there tossers get them out asap.

>>> FIRST FEASIBLE EXPLANATION AS TO HAMMOND'S INVISIBLE ROLE <<<

Wish we had disruptive players like Beckham - Keane and Stam :-(

As regards Hammond been a 'mole' would explain a lot.

Wasn't David White allegedly a mole for the board in Bassetts final months at The Lane?

 

[Grappler]

Do you really think he'd admit in public to there being problems in the dressing room?

Has any manager done this?

I seem to remember driving home from BDTBL after yet another defeat under Mickey Adams, he was on Radio Pig and sounded depressed, like a man walking to the gallows. He was asked something like "are all the players giving 100%" and he said no, "there are players in that dressing room that need to take a long hard look at themselves", or something like that. Don't think any manager since has said anything like that, maybe David Weir did?

 

[BushBlade]

>>> FIRST FEASIBLE EXPLANATION AS TO HAMMOND'S INVISIBLE ROLE <<<

Him and Woolford. Woolford was the eyes, Hammond is the enforcer.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

>>> FIRST FEASIBLE EXPLANATION AS TO HAMMOND'S INVISIBLE ROLE <<<

Old hat:

I just hope the Hammond signing was a necessity that we needed i.e. an old pro who could rule the changing room and kick arses instead of letting them sulk whilst they refused to move on.



#79 GRUMPY BLADE, Jan 29, 2016

 

[TonyAgana]

Old hat:

I just hope the Hammond signing was a necessity that we needed i.e. an old pro who could rule the changing room and kick arses instead of letting them sulk whilst they refused to move on.



#79 GRUMPY BLADE, Jan 29, 2016

Haha! In my current mood, I'm struggling to see beyond the notion that, if that is true, just how weak can a manager be? Regarding Hammond, he doesn't do much of that on the pitch. And I'm not sure I'd be particularly gee'd up by him telling me to pick it up and get stuck in... Billy, maybe.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wish we had disruptive players like Beckham - Keane and Stam :-(

As regards Hammond been a 'mole' would explain a lot.

Wasn't David White allegedly a mole for the board in Bassetts final months at The Lane?

The delicate point Fergie understood was: no player is indispensable, no matter there quality. Beckham, Keane and Stam were fine until they crossed him. He actually made exception for Cantona and Ronaldo but he told his players there was "one rule for them". There has to be club discipline and a collective spirit.. All managers need loyalists and mediators to bridge the gap between management and players. Hammond is doubtless someone he can trust, if nothing else.

 

[BushBlade]

Haha! In my current mood, I'm struggling to see beyond the notion that, if that is true, just how weak can a manager be? Regarding Hammond, he doesn't do much of that on the pitch. And I'm not sure I'd be particularly gee'd up by him telling me to pick it up and get stuck in... Billy, maybe.

It's not about weakness. A manager can't do everything and all good clubs have a core of senior players who run the dressing room.

 

[sitwell]

I seem to remember driving home from BDTBL after yet another defeat under Mickey Adams, he was on Radio Pig and sounded depressed, like a man walking to the gallows. He was asked something like "are all the players giving 100%" and he said no, "there are players in that dressing room that need to take a long hard look at themselves", or something like that. Don't think any manager since has said anything like that, maybe David Weir did?

Yeates ,Jamie Ward and Ched Evans ,wouldn't train ,always injured but always fit on matchday.

 

[Grappler]

Yeates ,Jamie Ward and Ched Evans ,wouldn't train ,always injured but always fit on matchday.

Didn't Ward arrive late to training once, stinking of booze and get sent back home? Seem to think he was gone not long after that.

 

[Jehovah]

Didn't Ward arrive late to training once, stinking of booze and get sent back home? Seem to think he was gone not long after that.

I think he came on bladdered v burnley in the play off final. The only way to explain his two ludicrous handballs that saw him sent off.

 

[Silent Blade]

Didn't Ward arrive late to training once, stinking of booze and get sent back home? Seem to think he was gone not long after that.

Thought that was Porter?

 

[Large Mendonca]

Haha! In my current mood, I'm struggling to see beyond the notion that, if that is true, just how weak can a manager be? Regarding Hammond, he doesn't do much of that on the pitch. And I'm not sure I'd be particularly gee'd up by him telling me to pick it up and get stuck in... Billy, maybe.

And that's why i think it might be a good idea to give Sharp the captain's armband. The only reservation being that it's not usual for a striker to wear it, but he'd certainly let them know what it should mean to pull the R&W shirt on.

 

[Grappler]

Thought that was Porter?

Ward arrived stinking of Porter??

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Ward arrived stinking of Porter??

No porter arrived stinking of Wards

 

[Grappler]

No porter arrived stinking of Wards

Ahh good old Wards, in that case you can't blame him

 

[BushBlade]

Thought that was Porter?

Might have done later but I think Wilson signed him. He wasn't there under Adams, as far as I recall.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Ahh good old Wards, in that case you can't blame him

What a wonderful pint that was before those Vaux bastards bought it and proceeded to kill it off.

 

[Grappler]

You could only make Wards in Sheffield, due to the sulphur content in the water they used. The last head brewer of Wards wrote a letter to The Star, which they printed, where he explained that while the Vaux version of Wards was a nice beer, it wasn't (and never could be) "Wards". Without the local water, you can't do it.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

The sad thing is that it would be booming at the moment, with the rise of micro-breweries etc.

It was a gorgeous pint, never more so than at that pub on the opposite side of Eccleshall road, straight across from the brewery. Can't remember what the pub was called, but the ale was nectar

 

[Kev Gee]

Hammond is a mole? Ive heard it all now.


Nice job if you can get it. 10k a week to be a l1 managers mole.

 

[bricktop]

Wards was rank, never liked it and never got why people did like it. In my eyes Cask Stoornes was the nectar of the gods back in the day, although in all honesty neither Wards or Stoornes would even get a look in with all the top quality real ales that are available now

 

[Ricky]

I'd love to know who these problem players are, and I'd love to see them fall off the football radar completely once they've finally fucked off. How easily some of them forget how lucky they are. Adkins has to be supported in his efforts to deal with them. I'd like to think it would be quite simple - 'either accept offers you get to move elsewhere or stay here, remember who pays your wages and apply yourselves properly'. The stupid fucks should realise that they're not helping themselves in any way by being sulky little wankers.

And that's why i think it might be a good idea to give Sharp the captain's armband. The only reservation being that it's not usual for a striker to wear it, but he'd certainly let them know what it should mean to pull the R&W shirt on.

Sharp should 100% be given the captaincy.