DEAR MR WEIR

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Dear Mr Weir

First of all welcome, i know you have been with us for a couple of months now and hopefully you are finding your feet and everything is to your liking. I would like to make you aware of a couple of former managers at this club which you are heading in the same direction as (they were later sacked btw).

The 1st manager Bryson Robson is former England captain which i am sure you know and was the man to take us back to the promise land so Mr McCabe thought and us fans hoped. However that didn't work out he played nice football don't get me wrong bit like you are trying but by February 14th Mr Robson was sacked as manager after being in charge for 9 wins, 12 draws and 11 defeats in the league with us 16th in the Championship. Now as much as the fans seem to enjoy the football it was clear we were going nowhere under his management and thats why the fans turned on him and the sacking came. I am making you aware of this because i see you taking us in the same direction if you do not change the way you approach a football match and trust me at BDTBL mid-table in league 1 aint good enough. I think you now have got the players to play more attacking football similar to that under Danny Wilson in the 2011/12 season and we are capable of getting out of this league.

The second manager is Kevin Blackwell now he played hoofball and please don't mistake this as a plea to play this style but Kevin was sacked just 2 games into a season which i thought was a bit odd at the time, but rumour has it Mr McCabe had a potential buyer in the stands with him that wasn't particularly impressed so he was relieved of his duties. Now the reason i am telling you this is that we now have a new co-owner of this football club and if your team continues to produce awful performances in both home and away games and by the end of this month we are well below half way, i think you might well find yourself out of a job. Trust me if this guy is a wealthy as we all hope new managers will the queueing up to take your place. Sorry to say this after just 5 league games and 2 cup games in charge but the facts are clear you have managed 1 win, technically 2 draws (1 against a league 2 club) and 4 defeats. Now thats not the greatest start to your managerial career and i have noticed fans already starting to turn on you and also the commentators on the radio included blades legend Keith Edwards who likes the football but hates the negative approach.

So in conclusion Mr Weir i recommend you think about changing the way you approach these games i believe you could be the man to take us forward and now you have the backing of the board, getting those striker scoring has to be top priority. If the plan is back in the big time in 3 years then you have a lot of work to do.

UTB

HATE THE PIGS

STARTING TO LIKE McCABE AGAIN

HATE HOOFBALL
 



davidpinder said:
included blades legend Keith Edwards who likes the football but hates the negative approach.
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Can someone let me in on what I'm missing? What is there to like about the football so far? Are we supposed to be impressed by medium paced 10 yard passes?

This isn't a dig at Weir who I accept has a job on his hands that can't work overnight. I'd just like to be clear that I'm surely not the only one who thinks the only thing missing is the results? If not, I'll order some more matchday pillows.

UTB
 
alcoblade said:
Can someone let me in on what I'm missing? What is there to like about the football so far? Are we supposed to be impressed by medium paced 10 yard passes?

This isn't a dig at Weir who I accept has a job on his hands that can't work overnight. I'd just like to be clear that I'm surely not the only one who thinks the only thing missing is the results? If not, I'll order some more matchday pillows.

UTB
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Jeez, get with it Alco! We all hate hoof now... Learn to love the dour crab football!
 
alcoblade said:
Can someone let me in on what I'm missing? What is there to like about the football so far? Are we supposed to be impressed by medium paced 10 yard passes?

This isn't a dig at Weir who I accept has a job on his hands that can't work overnight. I'd just like to be clear that I'm surely not the only one who thinks the only thing missing is the results? If not, I'll order some more matchday pillows.

UTB
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You bitten through them already?
 
I haven't read the original post as it's not addressed to me. Manners and all that. I presume that the OP has sent this directly to Mr Weir also? If not, what is the point of just sticking it on here?
 
alcoblade said:
Can someone let me in on what I'm missing? What is there to like about the football so far? Are we supposed to be impressed by medium paced 10 yard passes?

This isn't a dig at Weir who I accept has a job on his hands that can't work overnight. I'd just like to be clear that I'm surely not the only one who thinks the only thing missing is the results? If not, I'll order some more matchday pillows.

UTB
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Im with you on this one the only way we are going to get results at this level is to play up tempo football.
The close passing game just dos'nt work at this level.
I aint no advocate of the big boot but what i do like is getting the ball out wide from wingers/ overlaping fullbacks,balls from midfield with forwards exploring the channels.
To make this work we still need initially a decent winger, a full back who gets forward and a forward with pressence.
 
Dkc said:
What happened to giving the manager time? I thought we were committed to DW for the long term, even if we don't make an impression this season.
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In the spirit of football message boards, that surely doesn't mean silently swallowing any crap that's served up to us?

Suggestions of Weir out would be ridiculous. Football fans being armchair managers is daft but a reflection of human nature. Statements that the football on show right now is rubbish and ineffectual is nothing more than a statement of fact.

UTB
 
So passing football don't work at this level ? ...................................... load o bollocks I don't think Doncaster were ever a hoofball team while O'Driscol was in charge and they did alright. It is not the passing style that is the problem but the area that we are passing in, sideways across the back four will never win us games we need more players to join the attack and speed it up to be effective, we can still use wingers and over lapping full back in a passing style no need for them to chase balls hoofed anywhere as long as it is forwards.
 
metalblade said:
So passing football don't work at this level ? ...................................... load o bollocks I don't think Doncaster were ever a hoofball team while O'Driscol was in charge and they did alright. It is not the passing style that is the problem but the area that we are passing in, sideways across the back four will never win us games we need more players to join the attack and speed it up to be effective, we can still use wingers and over lapping full back in a passing style no need for them to chase balls hoofed anywhere as long as it is forwards.
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Yes, spot on. We seem to agree a bit too much lately. However, I don;t think you should make the jump from criticising the current style, or requesting 2 up front, or not getting every man behind the ball at corners as a request for hoof.

:)

UTB
 



The notion that short passing football doesn't work at this level is utter tripe. Plenty of teams have been promoted out of the third tier playing this way. The thing we need to improve on as a team is the attacking intent. The short passing is fine but we're not being progressive enough when we get the ball into good areas. That's down to the players and their decision making which is something that will come with experience of playing in this system. The upside of this is that what we need to improve on can be coached and that's where Weir and the coaching staff come into play.

When I watch them I think we look like we're playing it too safe in possession but that ultimately creates problems because the opposition will start to become too comfortable. As the group get used to the system and learn more about one another's strengths they will start to make better, bolder decisions in possession of the football. This team can and will improve and will do so playing proper football, be patient and keep the faith.
 
KenMcnaughtsNuts said:
If you haven't got pasta, you can't make lasagne no matter how you approach it.
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I think it's more about the fact that we do have pasta but it's spaghetti, not sheets - and it makes a reight mess of a lasagne cos it leaks out all over the place.
 
Dear Mr Weir,

I hope you continue to play attractive football at all levels through the club. By that I mean passing football, good movement, and defenders (and all) squeezing play when possible.

I hope you continue with the plan of slowly getting rid of the garbage we've had here for far too long, and a shame you lost a decent player who you were building the team around.

I hope you continue bringing in players like Baxter and him from Stoke, who indecently probably wouldn't have come if you would have been playing the type of football many seem to want. Though I have to say I'm not sure on that lad Taylor.

I'll be ok if by the end of this season we've not got shite players on silly money and contracts regardless of what division we're in.

Next season is the one that really counts as the money may have come a little too late and could be tricky to spend with some of the regulations in place and the current big earners you still have.

Good luck... and hope you can find a half decent centre forward ASAP.
 
All this bollocks regarding the passing game and hoofball !
Good teams mix it up with short precise passing in triangles to long defence splitting balls and mazy runs down the wings.
What does excite is goals and goalmouth action !
We don't have any goals in the side and very little goalmouth action
No matter how you dress it up with formations, tippy tappy football and the like we are not scoring goals and do not look like we will score goals
If Mr Weir is happy with what is happening I believe he is in the minority!
 
metalblade said:
So passing football don't work at this level ? ...................................... load o bollocks I don't think Doncaster were ever a hoofball team while O'Driscol was in charge and they did alright. It is not the passing style that is the problem but the area that we are passing in, sideways across the back four will never win us games we need more players to join the attack and speed it up to be effective, we can still use wingers and over lapping full back in a passing style no need for them to chase balls hoofed anywhere as long as it is forwards.
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Thats the point i am trying to make, Danny Wilson in his first season played good passing football, with Ched for the last few games we were home and dry. I just think Wilson rang out of ideas and the games became boring. Wilson went for goals score loads and you'll win and he was right. We have brought in 2 new attacking options 3 if you include youth loan lad, it time to approach the games more positive fans want to see us going for a win, not hoping we'll nick one and if we don't no worries we still drew. The passing game will work it can work we just need to start passing it forward and don't worry if that cross doesn't hit a striker, go back and try again.
 
Weir isn't happy, he knows he needs decent centre forwards to get on the end of any decent play.

At the minute it looks like Porter is our best striker...painful.

If we get a decent one and continue to play good football, and by that I also mean mixing it up, then with players like Baxter and Cuv coming in at this level then we should improve. There's an interesting stat around for the average number of passes usually put together before a goal is scored. Without googling all ll I can remember is that it's fairly low... let's not get back to aimless smash and hope though.
 
I don't necessarily think it's the strikers as Walker and Edwards alluded to on Tuesday, Van Persie would struggle to score in this team at the moment.

I like the passing and keeping possession but it all falls down in the final third for a number of reasons, one being I don't think McMahon and Hill are ideal full backs for this system where essentially the full backs are wingers.
Another reason is lack of confidence or bravery. We are getting into decent positions then instead of attacking the defenders we are passing back out again and starting again and so it continues.
And finally we are not getting enough midfielders willing to take a gamble on getting into the box when a cross comes in. A number of times when we have finally got the ball in there has been the loan striker fighting for it with 4 or 5 defenders.

Hopefully with a bit of time the additions of Cuvelier and Baxter may remedy some of these issues, but somewhere along the line our attacking players have to come out of there shell and be more positive in what they are doing.
 
Can't argue with that. The points on the full backs in particular. Bolton / Pike on one side with Borbokis / Wilder on the other would more than do right now!
 
Dog Blade said:
Weir isn't happy, he knows he needs decent centre forwards to get on the end of any decent play.

At the minute it looks like Porter is our best striker...painful./quote]



or put another way, I've scored as many as our forward line this season sat in the stand
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Dear mr weir
What can the matter be ? Were way down the league and taking a battering
We sold our main man although that might be flattering
In comes a prince from the saudi royal family
If he spends some dosh we might get some happenings
Ill settle for a goal from one of our mannequins
But if push comes to shove we all know what that will bring ....

Get t' warnock back
 
Weir based his plan on players with a modicum of talent , he has had some joy at times , but ultimately unless theres an end product , ie goals , it all comes to nought.
Ive seen attacks fizzle out, and chances lessen as confidence drains , nothing a couple of goals wont help set in motion a surge , a virtual tsunami of points gathering, it was visible against notts county there is a plan , the engine just need tweeking
With the imminent return of Miller and the probings of Cuvelier we may get there
 
blade too long said:
Weir based his plan on players with a modicum of talent , he has had some joy at times , but ultimately unless theres an end product , ie goals , it all comes to nought.
Ive seen attacks fizzle out, and chances lessen as confidence drains , nothing a couple of goals wont help set in motion a surge , a virtual tsunami of points gathering, it was visible against notts county there is a plan , the engine just need tweeking
With the imminent return of Miller and the probings of Cuvelier we may get there
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I had a car like that once !
Whatever you are drinking Blade too Long is dulling your brain
The shower of sh!te we have at present doesn't need tweeking it needs dumping!
 



Fiery Blade said:
I had a car like that once !
Whatever you are drinking Blade too Long is dulling your brain
The shower of sh!te we have at present doesn't need tweeking it needs dumping!
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I agree with you on this one it needs more than a tweak.
For a start neither McMahon or Hill are good enough the pair pose no attacking options there just journeymen.
We are desperate for a quality wide option look how Ben Marshall transformed Wednesday in there promotion push.
Got to play Murphy at the side of Taylor this could be one last chance to redeem himself,is he more of a goal poacher? we won't no unless we give it a go.
If it doesn't work out up front Weir must act fast.
 
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