Dean Windass

[Darren]

But Mr Windass says that his mental illness began after he stopped playing football. How come he didn't suffer from clinical depression whilst he was earning thousands of pounds a week?

You would have to ask his doctor that one. You can have reactive depression (where life events do have an impact) or clinical depression (where they don't). Either way, if Windass is suffering/has suffered from depression he was/is in a pretty awful place and the levity at his expense is as out of place as if he had announced he was suffering from cancer.

I used to think like you and would have said pretty much the same as you 20 years ago "he was a rich git, what has he got to be depressed about?" etc,etc. Personal experience taught me different.

 

[AlienWoodward]

Having read more posts on this illness I now feel bad for what I posted.
I wish super , wonderful , lovely Dean a swift recovery from this illness that affects approx 9.5% of the population. I hope he makes a full recovery so he can quickly get back to doing what he does best .... shagging birds other than his wife, abusing his wife, abusing his kids and selling his story to the sunday comic so he can pay his sons car insurance.
If you don't get better though mate ,I know you tried to slit your wrists and thankfully your mate got there to save you. Then you tried to hang yourself from the bannister ,but being such a fat bastard you broke the f*cker. All is not lost though Beano .. sorry I meant Deano.
Next time you are on a downer there is a big f*cking big bridge over the Humber you can jump from !

 

[Bladesway]

Having read more posts on this illness I now feel bad for what I posted.
I wish super , wonderful , lovely Dean a swift recovery from this illness that affects approx 9.5% of the population. I hope he makes a full recovery so he can quickly get back to doing what he does best .... shagging birds other than his wife, abusing his wife, abusing his kids and selling his story to the sunday comic so he can pay his sons car insurance.
If you don't get better though mate ,I know you tried to slit your wrists and thankfully your mate got there to save you. Then you tried to hang yourself from the bannister ,but being such a fat bastard you broke the f*cker. All is not lost though Beano .. sorry I meant Deano.
Next time you are on a downer there is a big f*cking big bridge over the Humber you can jump from !

What a guy.

 

[stannyblade]

Having read more posts on this illness I now feel bad for what I posted.
I wish super , wonderful , lovely Dean a swift recovery from this illness that affects approx 9.5% of the population. I hope he makes a full recovery so he can quickly get back to doing what he does best .... shagging birds other than his wife, abusing his wife, abusing his kids and selling his story to the sunday comic so he can pay his sons car insurance.
If you don't get better though mate ,I know you tried to slit your wrists and thankfully your mate got there to save you. Then you tried to hang yourself from the bannister ,but being such a fat bastard you broke the f*cker. All is not lost though Beano .. sorry I meant Deano.
Next time you are on a downer there is a big f*cking big bridge over the Humber you can jump from !

Dont think that is called for Alien

 

[norfolkblade]

Well my poor old dad god bless him did not want cancer to take him away age 56 and he unashamedly wept that he was leaving his 21 and 15 year old sons alone as their mum had died age 42, when they were 8 and 2 respectively.
She didn't want to die either.
Neither did my life long bestmate want to die of cancer age 43 and leave his 16 year old son and 7 year old daughter behind.
Windass and the rest of you who have had it to good for to long,there's no sympathy here,only anger.
I will put my flack hat on now,as no doubt these strong views will be attacked. But I have to say it would be so nice if the people who did not want to die could exchange places with those who did

Alien I can not agree with you more here, very well put.

My family are going through this at the moment with my Dad, and while we are all fighting an incredibly hard battle against it, it is very hard for me to find much, if any sympathy in attempted suicide cases. Sure it isn't nice to hear or read about, but what we would all give for him to just be depressed and spent all his money badly rather than what we have now just can't be expressed into words.

 

[Darren]

Alien I can not agree with you more here, very well put.

My family are going through this at the moment with my Dad, and while we are all fighting an incredibly hard battle against it, it is very hard for me to find much, if any sympathy in attempted suicide cases. Sure it isn't nice to hear or read about, but what we would all give for him to just be depressed and spent all his money badly rather than what we have now just can't be expressed into words.

I am sorry about your dad but I really don't get the argument that if someone has a worse illness than someone else we shouldn't have sympathy for the latter. If I have one broken leg and my dad has two broken legs do I not deserve any sympathy?

 

[norfolkblade]

I am sorry about your dad but I really don't get the argument that if someone has a worse illness than someone else we shouldn't have sympathy for the latter. If I have one broken leg and my dad has two broken legs do I not deserve any sympathy?

I've not worded that too well tbh Darren.

Basically what I'm trying to get at is, on one hand we have someone desperately fighting for their life, and on the other, someone just trying to end their life, and when you are very directly involved day to day with the former, I would hope you can in a sense see why it is disappointing to read things like that.

Sure, both cases are extremely sad there is absolutely no denying that, there are a couple of members of my family who have depression too so I'm well aware as to what it can do to people. The problem is that depression is seen as something that shouldn't be spoken of (in the wider sense), but really it deserves as much publicity as any other serious illness to make people aware of it, and to just get people to speak out if they are suffering, or think they are suffering.

 

[Darren]

I've not worded that too well tbh Darren.

Basically what I'm trying to get at is, on one hand we have someone desperately fighting for their life, and on the other, someone just trying to end their life, and when you are very directly involved day to day with the former, I would hope you can in a sense see why it is disappointing to read things like that.

Sure, both cases are extremely sad there is absolutely no denying that, there are a couple of members of my family who have depression too so I'm well aware as to what it can do to people. The problem is that depression is seen as something that shouldn't be spoken of (in the wider sense), but really it deserves as much publicity as any other serious illness to make people aware of it, and to just get people to speak out if they are suffering, or think they are suffering.

I agree with all of that. Sorry to misinterpret you.

I think what this thread has continued to show is that there is still a perception that mental ill health is not real ill health and that if only sufferers could "snap out of it", "pull themselves together" or "count their blessings" they would be cured. Sadly, it doesn't work like that.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I agree with all of that. Sorry to misinterpret you.

I think what this thread has continued to show is that there is still a perception that mental ill health is not real ill health and that if only sufferers could "snap out of it", "pull themselves together" or "count their blessings" they would be cured. Sadly, it doesn't work like that.

...And, Darren, that those with fame and/or money have no excuse for not being able to 'snap out of it.'

 

[cahill]

Bladesway. You're very "preachy".

 

[Bladesway]

Bladesway. You're very "preachy".

Passionate more than preaching. Just struggle to understand how you can't have sympathy with the situation. If he were a rapist or a murderer fair enough but he's gettng pelters because we is rich? If I'm preaching then so be it. I would suggest there are far bigger issues than that on this thread.

 

[SoccerCynic]

Have courage Norfolk, and anyone else who has family and friends suffering from depression. I remember physically dragging my father into Middlewood. I was gutted but I knew it was the right thing to do. He recovered with the right treatment and so will your loved ones I would hope.
My intervention in this debate is only because I do not believe that personalities deserve to be raised to cult hero status in order to highlight the condition. I also repeat that if someone is going to commit suicide they will do it. Slashing wrists and other failed attempts are exactly that, attempts and are usually , in my experience, demands for attention, for whatever reason. They are not serious attempts to commit suicide. I fail to see what DW's actions will do for anyone else but himself though I suppose the same could be said for GS who had everything to live for.