Danny Philliskirk signed on Months loan

[SwissBlade]

He's Tony's son, From Vital Football:

Sheffield United have signed Chelsea youngster Danny Philliskirk on a one month loan.

The attacker, 19, spent a month on loan at Oxford United earlier in the season, and has now joined the Blades so they can assess him. Son of former striker Tony, who played for the Blades in the eighties, Danny is a graduae of the Oldham Athletic youth system, but was picked up by Chelsea at a young age.

A permanent fixture in the current Premier League champions' reserve team, Philliskirk will be part of the new "developmental squad" that the Blades are urging towards as they look at talented yougsters elsewhere, such as the new Irish duo David McAllister and Seamus Conneely. However, whether he is likely to feature in the first-team is unknown.

Philliskirk was captain of Chelsea's Youth Team squad, and played alongside former Blade Jacob Mellis in the reserve team. He also has three caps for England at Under 17 level.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Just seen it on the OS. I dont quite understand the arrangement though. It will probably become clear in due course but its hard to fathom from either source whether he is going to be in the first team or simply playing with the youngsters????

If it is the latter then it would appear to be some sort of trial.....I've heard good things about him before and Chelsea obviously saw something in him. I remember his old fella well.

 

[Wards]

Probably not going to play by the sounds of it... Waste of a loan??

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Well if its a chance to look at him with the intention of buying him permanently (if he's any good) then fine.....sounds like a plan. If not then surely the intention is to play him???? Otherwise whats the point? I'm sure all will be explained fairly soon. Odd report though.

The confusing bit for me is, if it is a trial period.....why would we need to have him on loan? Players go off and trial for other clubs all the time whilst under contract.

 

[Kenilworth]

Hope he is better than his Dad. Flattered to deceive and too lightweight.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Weve got the soul of the club back.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Seems to be a midfielder, more than a striker according to this:

http://thechels.net/2010/08/what-can-oxford-expect-from-daniel-philliskirk/

I think we are trying to bridge the gap between the U18s and the first team by having a pool of development players, i.e. young players we've seen something in and want to see if they can progress. In any case it'll be good to have more back up, rather than relying on panic loans that will just leave with other clubs gaining from the experience. If some of these players breaks through, then excellent.

 

[broomhillblade]

According to soccerbase he's 5 ft 8", so he's smaller than his dad. 10 stone 8, so he's fairly lightweight.
He's just turned 20 (8th January)
He joined Oxford on a Free from Chelsea but they've only used him once as a sub.
Not much pedigree there, then.
Has our scouting system unearthed a hidden gem, or a waste of space? Maybe nobody's yet worked out where best to play him.
We'll soon find out.

 

[Worksop II]

Anyone else remember Tony Philliskirks winner at Bellend Road, 6ft offside.

The Police kept us in and the crackpots were climbing back over the walls to get at us

Everytime a pair of hands appeared on top of the walls, a copper battered em with his truncheon

 

[DP8789]

On the official site it says at the end "Philliskirk will be assessed by coach Mark Smith during his stay and will work with the rest of the blades development squad"

confusing to say the least, i hope he plays.

we need cb's now micky!!!

 

[beechblade]

On the official site it says at the end "Philliskirk will be assessed by coach Mark Smith during his stay and will work with the rest of the blades development squad"

confusing to say the least, i hope he plays.

we need cb's now micky!!!

This may not be an Adams signing, in his post match interview the other day, they asked him about the Norwegian lads we've been linked with and he said he didn't know them by name or know anything about them, he explained that he knew there were 3 more players to come into the development squad very shortly but he himself is looking for first team players with more experience, these were deals apparently already taking place prior to him taking charging. Its possible this could be one of them.

 

[DP8789]

This may not be an Adams signing, in his post match interview the other day, they asked him about the Norwegian lads we've been linked with and he said he didn't know them by name or know anything about them, he explained that he knew there were 3 more players to come into the development squad very shortly but he himself is looking for first team players with more experience, these were deals apparently already taking place prior to him taking charging. Its possible this could be one of them.

Didnt hear that interview, cheers beech.

if thats the case then, its good too see were looking to the future.

 

[SwissBlade]

I think its a case of Pembo and Smith wanting to bring a certain type of player through, ones that they can develop and then once they've done their job hand over to Micky if he see's fit to put them in, the key will be whether Micky and the Academy boys are on the same wavelength.

As for this lad, if he's on trial then he can't play in competitive first team games, i guess that means that the loan would make him available to play if good enough

 

[Ollessendro]

(People are going to say same old Ollessendro, stuck record and all that BUT) What the fuck are we signing a 20 year old striker for when we need defenders desperately. What is it, 17 goals conceded in the last 5 games. Awful defence that needs entirely replacing (with th exception of Bartley) and we're signing striker/midfielders.

I don't care if this is Adams work or not. What the fuck are the scouts wasting their time looking at 'development' players when we desperately need some scrappers, hard nuts and experience to stay in the league. Typical United, dicing with heading down to the third tier yet still pratting about signing players that are unlikely to ever put on a Red and White shirt.

 

[SwissBlade]

(People are going to say same old Ollessendro, stuck record and all that BUT) What the fuck are we signing a 20 year old striker for when we need defenders desperately. What is it, 17 goals conceded in the last 5 games. Awful defence that needs entirely replacing (with th exception of Bartley) and we're signing striker/midfielders.

I don't care if this is Adams work or not. What the fuck are the scouts wasting their time looking at 'development' players when we desperately need some scrappers, hard nuts and experience to stay in the league. Typical United, dicing with heading down to the third tier yet still pratting about signing players that are unlikely to ever put on a Red and White shirt.

Perhaps this was an easy deal to do. I read the other day that Adams was saying that clubs are playing their cards close to their chests with regards top the status of their players.

I agree that we need defenders, but if this was an easy one to do then no harm in it.

Plus if it means that within the 4 week loan that we can sign him permanently then the work needs to start now, obviously a deal would have to be done before the end of the 4 weeks.

Whats this about signing a player from the 3rd Tier? We got him from your boys, Chelsea

 

[broomhillblade]

(People are going to say same old Ollessendro, stuck record and all that BUT) What the fuck are we signing a 20 year old striker for when we need defenders desperately. What is it, 17 goals conceded in the last 5 games. Awful defence that needs entirely replacing (with th exception of Bartley) and we're signing striker/midfielders.

I don't care if this is Adams work or not. What the fuck are the scouts wasting their time looking at 'development' players when we desperately need some scrappers, hard nuts and experience to stay in the league. Typical United, dicing with heading down to the third tier yet still pratting about signing players that are unlikely to ever put on a Red and White shirt.

Scouting doesn't often provide an instant fix. They've probably been looking at this lad for months.
His signing has nothing to do with the hunt for defenders which, no doubt, is well in hand.

 

[Rustyblade]

"urging towards a development squad"?

Meaningless bloody drivel. Whatever a development squad might be (and I would appreciate it if someone with a better grasp of managementspeak than I could inform me) just how the hell can the Blades urge towards it?

 

[lenners]

"urging towards a development squad"?

Meaningless bloody drivel. Whatever a development squad might be (and I would appreciate it if someone with a better grasp of managementspeak than I could inform me) just how the hell can the Blades urge towards it?

No problem with looking at young players but we could do with less of the bollocks-speak.
Do they play in a development squad league?

 

[Yossarian]

A "Development Squad" is a group of players, mostly older than the youth team - but generally U21's - plus some of the outstanding youngsters, that play in the reserve league. It's a way of developing those players to work as a team, and get them involved in games that are a little more intense than the typical youth matches. Manchester City has one, (they label themselves the "Elite Development Squad"), and if we're aiming to have 8 homegrown players (was it 8?) in the first team, it's the best way of going about it.

Arsenal have one too, but they just call it the "First Eleven".

 

[Rustyblade]

A "Development Squad" is a group of players, mostly older than the youth team - but generally U21's - plus some of the outstanding youngsters, that play in the reserve league. It's a way of developing those players to work as a team, and get them involved in games that are a little more intense than the typical youth matches. Manchester City has one, (they label themselves the "Elite Development Squad"), and if we're aiming to have 8 homegrown players (was it 8?) in the first team, it's the best way of going about it.

Arsenal have one too, but they just call it the "First Eleven".

So, if I understand correctly, this development squad is the reserves after a rebranding exercise. Therefore it follows that we are now loaning players to play in the reserves.

This month's loan, if I follow the reasoning, will allow us to have more home grown players in our first team at some time in the future.

Wibble. Wibble, wibble.

 

[Yossarian]

So, if I understand correctly, this development squad is the reserves after a rebranding exercise. Therefore it follows that we are now loaning players to play in the reserves.

This month's loan, if I follow the reasoning, will allow us to have more home grown players in our first team at some time in the future.

If he makes the grade, then he'll be joining on a permanent basis. The development squad is the reserves without the 30 year-old also rans. It makes good sense to have your reserve squad full of young, hungry players eager (and able) to make the step up to the first team. Doesn't it?

 

[beechblade]

(People are going to say same old Ollessendro, stuck record and all that BUT) What the fuck are we signing a 20 year old striker for when we need defenders desperately. What is it, 17 goals conceded in the last 5 games. Awful defence that needs entirely replacing (with th exception of Bartley) and we're signing striker/midfielders.

I don't care if this is Adams work or not. What the fuck are the scouts wasting their time looking at 'development' players when we desperately need some scrappers, hard nuts and experience to stay in the league. Typical United, dicing with heading down to the third tier yet still pratting about signing players that are unlikely to ever put on a Red and White shirt.

We need to get out of this rut quite rightly and we need good defenders to shore up that defence but we need to still be looking at the future, everyone keeps ramping on about hindsight, well maybe we are starting to have some foresight and know that we can't keep going on surviving with scraps and are trying to build a team for the next year or two.

 

[broomhillblade]

No problem with looking at young players but we could do with less of the bollocks-speak.
Do they play in a development squad league?

Talking of bollocks-speak, who was it started a thread entitled: 'Tomorrow - Gutting' ?

 

[Bert]

The resident Fish Wife.

 

[Rustyblade]

If he makes the grade, then he'll be joining on a permanent basis. The development squad is the reserves without the 30 year-old also rans. It makes good sense to have your reserve squad full of young, hungry players eager (and able) to make the step up to the first team. Doesn't it?

I can see the point of this, yes. My problem with it is that it smacks of the jam tomorrow stuff we were fed regarding the investments in property and clubs overseas.

While the actual first eleven is in dire need of strengthening right now (and strengthening is also a misnomer when we can't even put out a first team of our own players), how can you possibly justify investment in the reserves over this?

Or maybe it isn't a simple question of priorities. That would imply that there are several items to rank in order of importance and urgency. Maybe this is our only strategy and there are no plans for the first eleven other than stick with what we've got and hope it's enough.

 

[Stafford Blade]

(People are going to say same old Ollessendro, stuck record and all that BUT) What the fuck are we signing a 20 year old striker for when we need defenders desperately. What is it, 17 goals conceded in the last 5 games. Awful defence that needs entirely replacing (with th exception of Bartley) and we're signing striker/midfielders.

I don't care if this is Adams work or not. What the fuck are the scouts wasting their time looking at 'development' players when we desperately need some scrappers, hard nuts and experience to stay in the league. Typical United, dicing with heading down to the third tier yet still pratting about signing players that are unlikely to ever put on a Red and White shirt.

I don't see what the problem is here, we have scouts at various levels looking at players of all ages. All clubs have scouts that go out and watch under 8's 9's 10 etc games to look for talent. Maybe it was one of the scouts tasked with looking at younger players that has suggested this lad?

But I admire the fact that even though you haven't a clue what you're talking about you are still prepared to rant and rave.

 

[beechblade]

I can see the point of this, yes. My problem with it is that it smacks of the jam tomorrow stuff we were fed regarding the investments in property and clubs overseas.

While the actual first eleven is in dire need of strengthening right now (and strengthening is also a misnomer when we can't even put out a first team of our own players), how can you possibly justify investment in the reserves over this?

Or maybe it isn't a simple question of priorities. That would imply that there are several items to rank in order of importance and urgency. Maybe this is our only strategy and there are no plans for the first eleven other than stick with what we've got and hope it's enough.

Who's to say they aren't trying to sign experienced players, just because we haven't made an instant wonder signing doesn't mean that we are not trying, or making the enquires. But you can only work in the confines of your budget and what players other teams are willing to release.

We still need to plan ahead though otherwise we'll just be stuck living off loans for many more moons, and that will see us stuck in the dog fight for those many more moons. I understand the worry, but we can't really crictise the club for trying to invest in a future squad, at least its in the squad and not on property this time.

 

[Yossarian]

While the actual first eleven is in dire need of strengthening right now (and strengthening is also a misnomer when we can't even put out a first team of our own players), how can you possibly justify investment in the reserves over this?

The investment involved with the couple of Norwegian kids was about £45k each. Ninety grand for a couple of young kids is not that big a deal. Perhaps they will go on to bigger things, perhaps they won't... but if that's the case, it's not a huge loss. If we were solely focusing on youth, I could understand the concern... but I don't think Micky Adams is simply going to sit around and stick with this squad. He knows what we need, and just as he had nothing to do with these recent deals for the kids, he'll be going out for targets for the first team.

 

[Rattly Noise]

Who's to say they aren't trying to sign experienced players, just because we haven't made an instant wonder signing doesn't mean that we are not trying, or making the enquires.

Spot on. There's a lot going on that we're not even aware of, even with people's contacts on the inside. It's a game of poker and what's being said publicly bears little relation to what's really going on. Once our plans are out in the open you just know someone will nip in at the last minute, so i'd prefer not to know until it's a done deal.

I'd be most surprised if we make a signing that most of us are instantly happy about though. If the player's any good he'll likely be playing for the first team, so we'd need to be offering a lot more than that. That means signing someone from the lower leagues, which won't please many. Alternatively signing an unknown Premiership or Championship player, again there'll be negativity. More than likely it'll be an unknown from the lower leagues though, which personally I won't mind providing they can play better than the current players.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

Adams has said today on the OS that three other young lads will be joining Philliskirk soon in the development squad.

Two of them I presume will be the young Norwegian lads plus one, this to me is a positive step by the club and something that shouldn't be slated.

Slew
Chappell
Roe
Long
Harriott
McCallister
Connelly
Tonne
Lokberg
Ironside
James
Philliskirk
Whitehouse

I'm not an expert on these names but if the idea is to get this Development squad playing, learning, gelling together then why can't they be unleashed on the Npower Football League as a unit come 2012/13?

Hell the Spanish FA's development team isn't doing too bad and the fact that those lads have been together as a unit for a few years has obviously been a massive factor.

Keep the experienced signings to loans or short term contracts (12months at the most) until Pemberton and Adams are confident that the clubs youth is ready, then we'd have 8-10 first team squad players on relatively low wages and a passion for the club.

Plus by that time Montgomery, Evans, Cresswell, Morgan, Britton, France, Quinn etc will either have been sold or their ridiculous contracts will have expired or be due to. Allowing the manager whether it be Adams or some other poor soul to compliment the youth with some quality experienced players.

Of course this all relies on the slim hope that the big boys don't come and offer the young lad's the world and McCabe a KitKat, a couple of buttons and a pot noodle with no sauce sachet.