Daniel Jebbison

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steve26272 said:
Interesting view - what level would you say they are both on?

I love McBs attitude and effort, however Im not sure what he does 'good'.

He actually gets smaller when he jumps for a header, his finishing is low percentage, hes not fast. In fairness hes good on oppo's corners, but that shouldnt be his biggest asset as a striker.

Not saying Jebbison is going to be a world beater, but he seems faster, more agile, stronger and has a finish on him.

Not suggesting one is in front of the other, as they are at different points in their development

McB at 25 years old and with over 170 league games is probably as good as he is going to get.
Jebbison has just turned 18, and has 4 league games

Whilst we cant ignore what McB did at Swansea, if you look at his record across the Prem & Champ, its 134 games played, 16 goals scored. 1:10 isnt a return from a 25 year old striker I would want to be relying on
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I'm not going to directly compare Jebbo and McBurnie in terms of abilities. I can't. I've seen one play around 5 games at a senior level. And one play over 10 times that.

What I will say is that McBurnie's finishing is much better than what we saw in the Premier League. He's also deceptively fast and his heading is quite good too.

I think what you did in the final paragraph was fairly sneaky. We are currently in the Championship. For his two clubs at this level he scored 22 in 58 and 9 in 17. Forget the Premier League. We are in the Championship. I want a striker who has proven to be able to score at this level when he gets service. Ollie McBurnie is that player.

You had people wanking themselves crazy about the thought of Mitrovic joining us due to the Slav connections. His scoring record in the Premier League is broadly the same as McBurnie's. And his Championship record is pretty much the same too.

Jebbison (I'm confident) will end up a very good striker. I just can't fathom why people would compare his potential to McBurnie's proven ability at this level. If you had to put your house on one scoring more this season, I'd be fascinated by which people would go with Jebbison.
 

bromtom said:
Brewster I reckon could be McGoldrick's understudy for that role if we're keeping it. He links well.

I think we should 100% keep all our forwards to be honest. Probably got too many, but unless we need to shift one for wages reasons, I like the look of having Moose/Jebbison/Sharp or Brewster/McBurnie/McGoldrick on the bench to make an impact.

I think we've had times where out bench has been very poor in terms on impact lately, this would be a great step up for games we're chasing, wasn't so long ago that our options off the bench were Ched Evans with a broken ankle and Caolan Lavery.
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I think you could be spot on with that one.
 
If we are wanting to keep Rammers and Berge and need to the balance the books a bit, Jebbison makes me feel better about letting McBurnie going.

Judging by the last night, he seems to have put some extra work in over the summer.
 
Bristol Blade said:
Scoring 20 goals in a season in the Championship is really hard. Billy Sharp has done it once in his career. McGoldrick has never got close. The amount of people who rush to write off McBurnie's achievements is staggering.
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Brewster scored 11 in 20. Pro-rata that over a 46 game season & he comfortably hits 20, at 19 years of age. But he's a complete waste of money with no potential to most.
 
Houso said:
I'm not going to directly compare Jebbo and McBurnie in terms of abilities. I can't. I've seen one play around 5 games at a senior level. And one play over 10 times that.

What I will say is that McBurnie's finishing is much better than what we saw in the Premier League. He's also deceptively fast and his heading is quite good too.

I think what you did in the final paragraph was fairly sneaky. We are currently in the Championship. For his two clubs at this level he scored 22 in 58 and 9 in 17. Forget the Premier League. We are in the Championship. I want a striker who has proven to be able to score at this level when he gets service. Ollie McBurnie is that player.

You had people wanking themselves crazy about the thought of Mitrovic joining us due to the Slav connections. His scoring record in the Premier League is broadly the same as McBurnie's. And his Championship record is pretty much the same too.

Jebbison (I'm confident) will end up a very good striker. I just can't fathom why people would compare his potential to McBurnie's proven ability at this level. If you had to put your house on one scoring more this season, I'd be fascinated by which people would go with Jebbison.
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We have to pull one up by tearing another down.
It’s depressingly predictable, and Jeb will be next as soon as he disappoints or has a difficult period.
CaptainMorgans said:
Brewster scored 11 in 20. Pro-rata that over a 46 game season & he comfortably hits 20, at 19 years of age. But he's a complete waste of money with no potential to most.
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If players do not run fast, run alot, shout alot and put themselves abaart, there’s a section that can’t see any other quality. The ability to be happy taking control of the ball under any pressure and be able to retain possession, a skill that actually takes technique, is entirely invisible. He doesn’t need to run into space to pull defenders about because he’s happy getting the ball with them close because he trusts his touch. See the Berge criticism for other examples.
So long as he gets a goal and the crowd don’t turn, Brewster will be the one some of our number are crying about potentially leaving in the summer.
 
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Bristol Blade said:
Scoring 20 goals in a season in the Championship is really hard. Billy Sharp has done it once in his career. McGoldrick has never got close. The amount of people who rush to write off McBurnie's achievements is staggering.
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Flip side is the number of players who have a hot streak and score 20+ goals in a championship season and get labelled the next big thing before drifting back into mediocrity for remainder of their career is more common than people might think..
 
jono_t2000 said:
Flip side is the number of players who have a hot streak and score 20+ goals in a championship season and get labelled the next big thing before drifting back into mediocrity for remainder of their career is more common than people might think..
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Have you got any examples? The stats don't back that up at all.
These are all the players who have scored 20+ over the last 5 seasons. Pretty much all of them have scored a lot of goals over a number of seasons in the Championship, or have ended up relatively solid strikers for bottom-half Prem teams.

YearPlayerSeason Goals
20/21Toney
33​
20/21Armstrong
28​
20/21Pukki
26​
20/21Moore
20​
19/20Mitrovic
26​
19/20Watkins
26​
19/20Grabban
20​
18/19Pukki
29​
18/19Abraham
26​
18/19Maupay
25​
18/19Gayle
24​
18/19Sharp
23​
18/19McBurnie
23​
18/19Adams
22​
18/19Bowen
22​
18/19Rodriguez
22​
17/18Vydra
21​
17/18Grabban
20​
16/17Wood
27​
16/17Abraham
24​
16/17Gayle
23​
16/17Murray
23​
16/17Kermogant
20​
15/16Gray
25​
15/16Hernandez
21​
15/16McCormack
21​
 
Houso said:
Jebbison is an incredible prospect.

He's still not anywhere near the same level as McBurnie.
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I'm struggling to understand what some people see when they're watching a game. As you say, great prospect, but he's so raw. Doesn't have the decision making/football brain as yet. Would greatly benefit from a 6 month loan somewhere and a run of games.

I worry that fans seem to expect him to just suddenly be a top class striker without getting the necessary experience.

Give Sharp and McBurnie are still injured, I suspect he might not get the chance to go out.

But then again, Mousset had a decent 45 minutes in a pre-season friendly against Doncaster and suddenly he's Thierry Henry
 

Hagansbootlaces said:
If Mousse is first choice central striker, and he doesn't last 90 minutes, then it's a like for like replacement, or tweaking the formation when he is replaced.
More questions than answers, mainly because of Injuries, is Mcb pencilled in for Didsy role, or Burkes role or to challenge Mousse.
If the front 3 are Didsy, Mousse, Burke, will any of them last 90 mins, which means although we do look to have lots of strikers, it's possible to make a case for keeping them all, and not sending Jebbison out on loan
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We’ll need em all over 46 games
 
Hagansbootlaces said:
If Mousse is first choice central striker, and he doesn't last 90 minutes, then it's a like for like replacement, or tweaking the formation when he is replaced.
More questions than answers, mainly because of Injuries, is Mcb pencilled in for Didsy role, or Burkes role or to challenge Mousse.
If the front 3 are Didsy, Mousse, Burke, will any of them last 90 mins, which means although we do look to have lots of strikers, it's possible to make a case for keeping them all, and not sending Jebbison out on loan
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What about our 23 million striker?
 
With regards to this striker getting 20+ and that striker getting 20+ this year personally I wont shake off the haunting of last seasons inability to score until at least the 4th or 5th match when we are scoring 2+ goals a game. Trying to be positive and I want this season to go well but I still cant see who will be "the regular goal scorer" in the numerous strikers. For me past Championship scoring records means nowt. The way some people are talking our strikers are going to occupy the top 5 Champ goal scorers league before a kick of the ball.
 
Really can't understand this ,the lad was our only striker ( bar didsy dropping deep ) to show any kind of movement or threat the rest of the season without him was like playing with traffic cones up front
 
Selling the best prospect we’ve had since DCL to a team in a lower league makes no sense at all suppose it’s the Sheffield united way and we’ll be signing home for £18 million in 2 years time

Good luck lad
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Selling the best prospect we’ve had since DCL to a team in a lower league makes no sense at all suppose it’s the Sheffield united way and we’ll be signing home for £18 million in 2 years time

Good luck lad
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At least get yer keks on before you wet them.

Jesus wept.
 
6 month loan might be ideal for all parties. If Slav doesn’t see him as an automatic starter then it’s important he keeps developing. Sunderland is a grim choice though - a bit of a graveyard for players over recent times. A few ex players have said how toxic an atmosphere it is up there at the moment.
 
I'd like him to stay and bang them in for us, but considering we have 4 strikers on our books who are capable of scoring 15-20 goals at this level, I can understand a loan.

Stick a recall clause in though in case Bill, McBurnie, Mousset, and Brewster shit the bed.
 

bromtom said:
I'd like him to stay and bang them in for us, but considering we have 4 strikers on our books who are capable of scoring 15-20 goals at this level, I can understand a loan.

Stick a recall clause in though in case Bill, McBurnie, Mousset, and Brewster shit the bed.
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You forgot Didzy.......
 
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