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metalblade said:
He will be if he hits 20 goals next season.
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When was the last time he scored 20 goals in the championship again? oh yeah, never.

One good season 5 years ago. He hasn't even scored 20 this season.

I hope I'm wrong, but cant see it, plus he will be 29 at Christmas, really think someone will pay 10 million then?
 

If this was any other striker, we'd look at his goal record, his lack of game time this season, his record in the championship and the price and say no thank you. But because it's Ched some people are over the moon, I don't get it, it's a huge risk, hopefully it pays off, but I have my doubts.
 
This site has more than its fair share of prima Donna me thinks

FFS get over it and take an early night. Things won't be half as bad tomorrow. I will even predict that the majority that don't want him back will be halved come August.

Those that have voted 'no for footballing reasons' on the Cheddar poll really ought to wait and see how he gets on.

If he turns out to be a flop then Chris will chop :)
 
west_yorks_blade said:
Sheffield United decided to divide the fan base with this bizarrely timed and unnecessary purchase.
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Reading this thread, almost all the "division" is arguments about whether he is still a decent footballer, and whether the publicity would detract from our celebrations and possibly affect squad morale. Valid points.

But very few, less than ten percent according to the poll, are arguing that we shouldn't sign him because of his actions that night in Rhyl. So yes, his signing might be controversial and get Blades fans talking but we're not going to be losing any sponsors or be seen as rape apologists. If he's signing it's for footballing reasons only and we should support him like any other player.

I'm more interested in how a fully-fit Ched might link up with Sharp
 
Lard_Lad said:
If this was any other striker, we'd look at his goal record, his lack of game time this season, his record in the championship and the price and say no thank you. But because it's Ched some people are over the moon, I don't get it, it's a huge risk, hopefully it pays off, but I have my doubts.
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You have more than doubts I reckon.

But go on - tell us about the risk you speak of? What is the risk exactly? And give us a balanced view will you? Tell us about the potential upsides to it?
 
Cue meltdown?!!! What about the implications for the world snooker championships? Has anyone really thought this through?! Tbh I think they'd burn rather than melt anyway... o_O
 
WhiteHawk said:
After the amazing season we've had, this is the last thing we should be considering, certainly before the season has finished anyway, purely because it's going to divide the fans, and we really don't deserve this season to end in that way.
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We'll be reight on the day.
Ground will be rocking.

Biggest problem is getting down Carr Rd because of the tax dodgers.
 
nicksufc said:
The issue is that you just don't know - there's a big chance this sort of signing could really upset seemingly the strongest team spirit we've had in years. There's no doubt Evans is now a divisive figure in football. Why bother with him? He's not even proven in the league above! Ridiculous on almost every single level this deal.
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Especially if its the best manager for years idea.
 
HighfieldBlade said:
I'm over the shock of this news now. Let's just get on with it. I'm sure CW will work his magic on getting the best out of Evans, come what may...Oh, and if CW sanctioned the release of this news to further demoralise Chesterfield just ahead of Sunday's game, it could be a stroke of genius. :)
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I recon McC is still walking around home kicking lumps out of things.

But he's furious at the leak which hasn't come from SUFC.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
Well at least we had, what - about 2 weeks of feeling on top of the world.

Two weeks of genuine feel good factor before Sheffield United decided to divide the fan base with this bizarrely timed and unnecessary purchase.

When you think about it, how naive we have been thinking we could just unite and enjoy our selves for a few months with the usual misery or shitstorms.
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Or Wilder is all for it.
 
I'd have looked at trying to purchase some less damaged goods personally...

Like Marcus Maddison from Posh, I reckon he's ready for the step up to the Championship, plenty more mileage in him than Ched.
 

37 pages in 8 hours. Proof that ched evans is a hot potato & in some eyes as a bridge as long as grand canyon to rebuild
 
There was never any prospect of us paying Ched any compensation. That one was nonsense. The legal process is now complete and he's Not Guilty.

It's all about football now. Tufty clearly wants him. Firstly, he's in a very powerful position at the club; nobody will be signed behind his back. Secondly, he's consistently honest. We'll find out soon what he thinks.

This forum is not necessarily representative. I've spoken to loads of non-internet Blades today. There's no major fuss as we'll see on Sunday.
 
You guys probably may not read this but I'm gunna put my point across.

I am AGAINST the signing of Ched Evans. And I have my reasons. Just to clarify, this is nothing to do with the private life (shall we say) he had quite recently but these are my top 3 reasons.

1) Value -> Ched Evans is now a 28 year old striker, who was to play in the forth tier of English football having only scored seven goals in League 1. Now I'm no businessman, but it does not take a brain surgeon to work out that the cost of bringing him back in bizarre. £500,000? For a player that is approaching his 30s? A player who is still recovering for the trauma he has been through? To me that is silly business and there is guaranteed to be players younger, fitter and hungrier to prove their point in the second best prize in English Football. Think about it, we've been scoring goals left, right and centre all season, when was the last time you uttered the words "we need a frontman" this season?. If Evans hadn't had played for us before then would we be signing him now? No I didn't think so either.

2) Dividing Fans -> A classic examplar of a family club are Sheffield United and the fact of the matter is our fans have been sensational this season in particular with getting behind the boys that the legend Chris Wilder has marshalled. Dividing fans should not even be considered in this section but you know as well as I do, there fans will disagree with each other. But subjects like this can provoke fans highly to the point where crowd trouble could occur. After a season where our fans were United in the namesake of our glorious football club. I feel as if in a few months time the feeling of being United as fans will disappear over the signing of Evans.

3) Bad Memories -> The day Evans got sent down were horrible and it badly effected our 2011-12 campaign to the point where we were pipped to automatic promotion by non other than another Sheffield side. Yes that was bad, but moving a few years forward to the day where the headline "Ched Evans Released From Prison" was seen in front of you, can you remember the two weeks after that? I can, and it was painful. Never in my 35 years of the supporting the Blades did I feel sick and sad by what was being said about my team all over the news and every tabloid you picked up. I felt bullied and genuinely felt heartbroken that my team are becoming one of the most hated clubs in Britain, over what? A player who was convicted for Rape...in which the case was later quashed and the defendant was found not guilty? This is the kind of unnecessary event that could only happen to Sheffield United, but still bring back some horrible memories of discomfort and rage.

All in all, IF Evans comes back I'll still be here to cheer HIM and the Blades on. I'm not going to be a supporter that is going to avoid Bramall Lane(I can understand their point also). But I can also understand that I may be a minority with my view and I fully support you guys with your views in the fact you'd love him back at the club. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Fucking hell my arms are killing after writing that...
 
Cerberus Blade said:
You have more than doubts I reckon.

But go on - tell us about the risk you speak of? What is the risk exactly? And give us a balanced view will you? Tell us about the potential upsides to it?
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The upside is he could find his form from the season before he got sent down, however that form was in league 1 not the championship, he's older, lost 5 years of footballing experience and has been injured for a lot of this season. He's never done it in the league above, granted he was relatively young, but you can't exactly say he's gained experience given he's missed out on 5 years of football.

The risk is we spend 500k on a player plus wages that doesn't score more than 10 goals which could have arguably been invested in a better player, thats my opinion, I'm sure you have a different opinion.
 
Jimmy23 said:
You guys probably may not read this but I'm gunna put my point across.

I am AGAINST the signing of Ched Evans. And I have my reasons. Just to clarify, this is nothing to do with the private life (shall we say) he had quite recently but these are my top 3 reasons.

1) Value -> Ched Evans is now a 28 year old striker, who was to play in the forth tier of English football having only scored seven goals in League 1. Now I'm no businessman, but it does not take a brain surgeon to work out that the cost of bringing him back in bizarre. £500,000? For a player that is approaching his 30s? A player who is still recovering for the trauma he has been through? To me that is silly business and there is guaranteed to be players younger, fitter and hungrier to prove their point in the second best prize in English Football. Think about it, we've been scoring goals left, right and centre all season, when was the last time you uttered the words "we need a frontman" this season?. If Evans hadn't had played for us before then would we be signing him now? No I didn't think so either.

2) Dividing Fans -> A classic examplar of a family club are Sheffield United and the fact of the matter is our fans have been sensational this season in particular with getting behind the boys that the legend Chris Wilder has marshalled. Dividing fans should not even be considered in this section but you know as well as I do, there fans will disagree with each other. But subjects like this can provoke fans highly to the point where crowd trouble could occur. After a season where our fans were United in the namesake of our glorious football club. I feel as if in a few months time the feeling of being United as fans will disappear over the signing of Evans.

3) Bad Memories -> The day Evans got sent down were horrible and it badly effected our 2011-12 campaign to the point where we were pipped to automatic promotion by non other than another Sheffield side. Yes that was bad, but moving a few years forward to the day where the headline "Ched Evans Released From Prison" was seen in front of you, can you remember the two weeks after that? I can, and it was painful. Never in my 35 years of the supporting the Blades did I feel sick and sad by what was being said about my team all over the news and every tabloid you picked up. I felt bullied and genuinely felt heartbroken that my team are becoming one of the most hated clubs in Britain, over what? A player who was convicted for Rape...in which the case was later quashed and the defendant was found not guilty? This is the kind of unnecessary event that could only happen to Sheffield United, but still bring back some horrible memories of discomfort and rage.

All in all, IF Evans comes back I'll still be here to cheer HIM and the Blades on. I'm not going to be a supporter that is going to avoid Bramall Lane(I can understand their point also). But I can also understand that I may be a minority with my view and I fully support you guys with your views in the fact you'd love him back at the club. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Fucking hell my arms are killing after writing that...
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Fair points there but
Regards value: Ched was as good if not better than Jordan Rhodes. Similar age, similar ability.
SW have just paid £10 million for Rhodes. I doubt will rediscover his high standards of his final year when he totally ripped league 1 apart and made us virtually a 1 man team, he was that good.
So it's a gamble paying £500K for someone who is currently worth £100K but could be worth £5 million+.

Dividing fans: Don't read too much into social media and radio station phone ins.
Go to Bramall Lane Saturday and I think you'll be very surprised how United the fans are about the signing.
We heard all this about the Marlon King singing with 1000's boycotting Bramall Lane, however gates went up.

Bad memories: Agree with this one, it's raking over old wounds but there's a MASSIVE difference which you'll see in the media. Doesn't matter what anyone thought he was officially guilty but now he's officially innocent and wrongly imprisoned. Imagine if you were jailed for a crime you didn't commit? There should be a level of sympathy regards the injustice. Also in a way if he does return to SU then it heals the wounds and finally rights a wrong. It also gives Ched a chance to repay the club.

Personally I don't think he'll regain his former powers but £500K isn't that much to gamble with at CC level and let's face it, Wikder seems to have an abilkty to make players perform at their best. If he doesn't this with Ched then we've just bought a £5 milion player for £500K.
 
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Lard_Lad said:
The upside is he could find his form from the season before he got sent down, however that form was in league 1 not the championship, he's older, lost 5 years of footballing experience and has been injured for a lot of this season. He's never done it in the league above, granted he was relatively young, but you can't exactly say he's gained experience given he's missed out on 5 years of football.

The risk is we spend 500k on a player plus wages that doesn't score more than 10 goals which could have arguably been invested in a better player, thats my opinion, I'm sure you have a different opinion.
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Didn't he have a decent loan spell at Norwich with 10 goals in 20 starts ?
 
Sean Thornton said:
So to save a few quid and a legal battle we buy him and pay the wages of a man motivated to sue the club over something which effectively was his own fault?

Add to that the possibility of animosity running in different sections of the club over it and the man who took on West Ham and the PL would just roll over? Get a grip.

If McCabes anything to do with it it'll be over promises he made originally about standing by him, not because some chancer of a lawyer thinks he might get a few bob. A story that died pretty quickly a few months ago.
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There is not, and never was, any prospect of a successful legal action by CHED against SUFC. We've been through this. Breach of promise is not actionable in U.K. courts.
 
Lard_Lad said:
The upside is he could find his form from the season before he got sent down, however that form was in league 1 not the championship, he's older, lost 5 years of footballing experience and has been injured for a lot of this season. He's never done it in the league above, granted he was relatively young, but you can't exactly say he's gained experience given he's missed out on 5 years of football.

The risk is we spend 500k on a player plus wages that doesn't score more than 10 goals which could have arguably been invested in a better player, thats my opinion, I'm sure you have a different opinion.
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All fair points that means his valuation should be low, based on this season he's nothing more than a 100K striker.
Not sure if you went to the matches when Ched played in league 1 but he totally terrorised league 1 defenses and was probably up there with our best allround strikers since Brian Deane. So we've seen with our own eyes that he has the potential to be upper Championship, possibly even lower PL standard.

The other players like Marcus Maddison we don't know how good they could be, so more of a risk.
 
Dkc said:
His potential signing before his successful appeal was divisive, signing an innocent man shouldn't be - unless you think he should still be punished by never playing professional football again.

The argument that his signing would be "divisive" could be used by any club and any fans, but is just unmerited after his successful appeal.

Imagine if you were wrongly accused of rape, won on appeal but still couldn't get a job in your profession because all the companies you hoped to work for said "ah, he may be innocent, but employing him would be divisive"
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Pinchy said:
There is not, and never was, any prospect of a successful legal action by CHED against SUFC. We've been through this. Breach of promise is not actionable in U.K. courts.
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I know. It being discussed on here by people such as yourself with your expertise has never stopped certain people disregarding that with their understanding of the law as per the Mail, Mirror or the ITK crowd. Or some "source high up in the club".
 
Sean Thornton said:
I know. It being discussed on here by people such as yourself with your expertise has never stopped certain people disregarding that with their understanding of the law as per the Mail, Mirror or the ITK crowd. Or some "source high up in the club".
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Yes, if there's any motivation from KM in this it will be as you say above. I'm pretty sure, though, that it's nothing so melodramatic. Tufty wants the player! I wouldn't be so keen myself but thats a football thing as I've said elsewhere. On the other hand, there has been a good deal of 'nonsense' to use a neutral term, at Chez recently so I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Ched hasn't been injured at all, maybe a touch of flu....

Anyway, as we'll see on Sunday, the vast majority of fans will be in favour, whatever the misgivings (and prejudices I'm sorry to say) of some on here.

There'll be no returned season ticket or internet tantrum from me. However, appoint Blackwell or Morgan as manager and I'll make Jean Chopper look like the voice of sweet reason by compassion.
 

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