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I think it's very feasible that we could keep him and after his performance today I hope we do. He played like an inspirational Captain today; tracked back, brought the ball forward and came short to support Flynn in possession out wide. He is exactly the type of player who (alongside Long, Maguire, Flynn, Murphy & Scougs) can be good enough to blitz this decision but also improve as we aspire to become an established Championship side with one eye on the PL.
 

I'd also like to thank him for his efforts this year. He's been nothing short of top class, especially from about January onwards.

I think we can (and will) get him permanently in the summer. He seems to genuinely love this club, he's very well liked by the fans, and seemingly rated highly by Clough and co.. Like you say he's exactly the sort of player we need to be looking at, young, hungry, and capable of making a move up the divisions with us. I would love it if we got him back in any sort of capacity next year, he's been fantastic.

He shouldn't cost too much either, people who think he's going to be in Liverpool's plans or that they're going to fight to keep him are deluding themselves either as to how good they think Coady is or the level of player that Liverpool require (especially now they're back challenging for the title). In central midfield they've already got Gerrard, Coutinho, Lucas, Allen and Henderson plus other kids in the academy/out on loan like Suso. He isn't going to be anywhere near their first team and WILL be surplus to requirements for them. He's definitely a realistic target.
 
Agree with all of the above. I'd be on the blower to the scousers asking for a season long loan and we'll make him captain.
 
Would love to have him back again next season, the only problem would be how we would play him and bring the front man we need into the first XI. Possibly play Coady in Doyle's CDM and drop Doyle?
 
Seems we have made many friends this season who spread the word further about what a special club we have. Mr Coady is one of those.
 
Would love to have him back again next season, the only problem would be how we would play him and bring the front man we need into the first XI. Possibly play Coady in Doyle's CDM and drop Doyle?
Part of this seasons success has been the Doyle role. Doyle has proved himself has captain and defensive midfielder.
Putting Coady in this role would see him sitting too deep

I think Coady will be back next year on another season loan.

Thanks to Coady this year, part of something special this season. Well done lad
 
Part of this seasons success has been the Doyle role. Doyle has proved himself has captain and defensive midfielder.
Putting Coady in this role would see him sitting too deep

I think Coady will be back next year on another season loan.

Thanks to Coady this year, part of something special this season. Well done lad

The Doyle role can be adjusted slightly though? We are a free-wheeling, free-spirited team. Let's get Conor on a free!

Oh, oh the Conor Coady....
 
Part of this seasons success has been the Doyle role. Doyle has proved himself has captain and defensive midfielder.
Putting Coady in this role would see him sitting too deep

I think Coady will be back next year on another season loan.

Thanks to Coady this year, part of something special this season. Well done lad
Then we have the problem of who to drop out of Baxter and Scougall though, that's all I'm saying
 
The Doyle role can be adjusted slightly though? We are a free-wheeling, free-spirited team. Let's get Conor on a free!

Oh, oh the Conor Coady....

I'm sure then that the Back 4 could become a back 3, drop Collins and play a back 3 of Harris, Harry and Brayford. My point is that we've done well with the system that we have and it clearly works, so why look to change it?

Currently we play a form of 4-5-1 which can quickly become 4-3-3. I seem to remember many on here complaining about 4-5-1 when we played it in the Championship. There were a number of reasons for this, but mainly because the players we had were suited to 4-4-2.

The role of Doyle during the second half of the season has allowed Scougall and Coady to play in a more attacking way and i believe that these are strengths of Coady and Scougall. Putting Coady into a deeper role might work, but at the expense of Doyle. I'm not sure Coady would be at his best there.

Then we have the problem of who to drop out of Baxter and Scougall though, that's all I'm saying

Not a bad problem to have though is it? I reckon with the right striker, they could both play the supporting role for him.
 
I suspect Liverpool may want to try him elsewhere next season ie a Championship club.

He's had a great second half of the season and he's acknowledged that the coaching staff have instilled what is important to play successful football. He looked lost and negative under Weir but didn't they all.

Some people behind me yesterday who must have met him were full of praise on how he conducts himself.

He deserves success and would be welcome for another year at the Lane.
 
I'm sure then that the Back 4 could become a back 3, drop Collins and play a back 3 of Harris, Harry and Brayford. My point is that we've done well with the system that we have and it clearly works, so why look to change it?

Currently we play a form of 4-5-1 which can quickly become 4-3-3. I seem to remember many on here complaining about 4-5-1 when we played it in the Championship. There were a number of reasons for this, but mainly because the players we had were suited to 4-4-2.

The role of Doyle during the second half of the season has allowed Scougall and Coady to play in a more attacking way and i believe that these are strengths of Coady and Scougall. Putting Coady into a deeper role might work, but at the expense of Doyle. I'm not sure Coady would be at his best there.

Not a bad problem to have though is it? I reckon with the right striker, they could both play the supporting role for him.

I believe we will play with two (new) strikers next season. That means adjustments elsewhere. The job that Doyle does could be done by Coady and Scoogs between them with help from the wide midfielders and full backs. We can only play 11 and we need our best players on the pitch.
 

I would think the only chance we have of getting him is by signing him as if Liverpool want to keep him they'll want to see him develop at a higher level
 
I believe we will play with two (new) strikers next season. That means adjustments elsewhere. The job that Doyle does could be done by Coady and Scoogs between them with help from the wide midfielders and full backs. We can only play 11 and we need our best players on the pitch.

I'd say Doyle was one of our best performers during the second half of the season
 
I believe we will play with two (new) strikers next season. That means adjustments elsewhere. The job that Doyle does could be done by Coady and Scoogs between them with help from the wide midfielders and full backs. We can only play 11 and we need our best players on the pitch.

We tried that once this season and it saw us lose 0-3 to Crewe. The implications of no "sitter" in midfield may be that Coady and Scougall won't be allowed to bomb forward as they've been doing this season, and the same may go for our full backs and our widemen may also have to tuck in more. The advantage is of course having two forwards who may help each other to create things.

In any case we need to add more attacking threats and search for a good balance which will see us score more goals next season. If Dimaio bulks up a bit over the summer he could offer playmaking from Doyle's position which will more fluent and efficient passing moves.
 
I would think the only chance we have of getting him is by signing him as if Liverpool want to keep him they'll want to see him develop at a higher level

If Coady were a couple of years younger I could see Liverpool keeping him on. As it is, I think they'll just want to maximise their money for him, as it's clear he's not Champion's League material.

I expect we've a chance of buying him with a £50% sell-on clause. But if a higher placed club come in for him we'll be in trouble.
 
We tried that once this season and it saw us lose 0-3 to Crewe. The implications of no "sitter" in midfield may be that Coady and Scougall won't be allowed to bomb forward as they've been doing this season, and the same may go for our full backs and our widemen may also have to tuck in more. The advantage is of course having two forwards who may help each other to create things.

In any case we need to add more attacking threats and search for a good balance which will see us score more goals next season. If Dimaio bulks up a bit over the summer he could offer playmaking from Doyle's position which will more fluent and efficient passing moves.

One loss to Crewe or anyone else is scarcely sufficient evidence. It will, quite literally, be a different ball game when we have two decent strikers next season. That change will necessarily have a knock-on effect for the rest of the team.

There is no immutable rule that you have to play with a 'sitter' 'CDM' (horrible phrase and a contradiction in terms of a midfielder) or any such restrictive animal.

I want two central midfielders who can pass, run, create when in possession and press the ball when not. One may be more defensive and the other more attacking but each has to contribute in all areas. That's what midfielders are all about.

I'm afraid years of Montyphilia has done us no good at all and his dark shadow lives on in narrow S2 thinking.

Luckily, Nigel, like me, believes in players rather than formations; talent rather than diagrams.
 
If Coady were a couple of years younger I could see Liverpool keeping him on. As it is, I think they'll just want to maximise their money for him, as it's clear he's not Champion's League material.

I expect we've a chance of buying him with a £50% sell-on clause. But if a higher placed club come in for him we'll be in trouble.

Absolutely JD. I ❤️ Coady but the idea that he has a big future at Liverpool is risible. They are in the Champions League and will spend accordingly. Conor won't figure at all.

Let's also remember, he will have a say in where he goes. Clubs can't just 'place' players like chess pieces.
 
One loss to Crewe or anyone else is scarcely sufficient evidence. It will, quite literally, be a different ball game when we have two decent strikers next season. That change will necessarily have a knock-on effect for the rest of the team.

There is no immutable rule that you have to play with a 'sitter' 'CDM' (horrible phrase and a contradiction in terms of a midfielder) or any such restrictive animal.

I want two central midfielders who can pass, run, create when in possession and press the ball when not. One may be more defensive and the other more attacking but each has to contribute in all areas. That's what midfielders are all about.

I'm afraid years of Montyphilia has done us no good at all and his dark shadow lives on in narrow S2 thinking.

Luckily, Nigel, like me, believes in players rather than formations; talent rather than diagrams.

Sounds like you want to have a dig at me, for the umpteenth time? And isn't it nice to claim Clough is on your side, whereas I apparently want Nick Montgomery back?

I agree one game is not enough for it alone to dismiss the idea of Scougall and Coady forming a central partnership in a 4-4-2.

But Nigel Clough certainly didn't try it again this season, we'll have to see next season if he may give it another go. I doubt it personally, based on his team compositions this season. Oh, and Clough was the one who taught me the expression "sitter" by the way. Tell him you don't like his horrible phrases.
 
Sorry to burst a few bubbles, but I don't think we have any chance of getting him. He'll almost certainly have attracted the attention of Championship clubs. Why would hestay with us? Anyone thinking he will stay with us (because of the 'Clough factor') when he has a chance of playing at a higher level is deluded. Same as Brayford, he is too good for this level. I don't expect any 'loyalty' from either. Brayford has been very vocal about how much he likes SUFC and the fans, but Coady has been much quieter.

Thanks though Conor. He's been excellent and a major factor in our successful 2nd half of the season. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I am afraid that we won't see him in a Blades shirt next season.
 
Sounds like you want to have a dig at me, for the umpteenth time? And isn't it nice to claim Clough is on your side, whereas I apparently want Nick Montgomery back?

I agree one game is not enough for it alone to dismiss the idea of Scougall and Coady forming a central partnership in a 4-4-2.

But Nigel Clough certainly didn't try it again this season, we'll have to see next season if he may give it another go. I doubt it personally, based on his team compositions this season. Oh, and Clough was the one who taught me the expression "sitter" by the way. Tell him you don't like his horrible phrases.

Simply expressing a contrary opinion, mate. Our views on football are poles apart I'm afraid. This is the place to discuss them.
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Yep, I reckon both Coady and Brayford will playing at a higher level next season ( hope they stay on of course) but their performances certainly won't have gone unnoticed and both have contracts with other clubs. Brayford I expect will be back at Cardiff in the Champ.

Hopefully Freeman will come permanently, Davies will sign and Nigel will have a few targets lined up.

Going to be a big summer of ins and out's I reckon!
 
Strange things happen in football. Yes, money does dictate, but so does the relative fortunes of any club.

Give it a season, see where we are, where Cardiff might be, and if Brayford is still with Cardiff, who knows whether a deal could be struck? Apart from his recent comments about SUFC, the Tweet that Brayford sent (it's on a thread somewhere on the forum) yesterday is far more than a shallow PR tactic. Not only would we, the supporters, have got one of our own, the player himself would feel as if he's been embraced by a club that cares for him, which we do of course. I can't recall this type of mutual affection happening too often, it would be a real shame if the engagement couldn't be turned into a full blown marriage...but, such is life, and if we're unable to bring this about, then the very best John, I'm glad you benefited by being here, we certainly improved by having you wear the shirt mate UTB
 
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Simply expressing a contrary opinion, mate. Our views on football are poles apart I'm afraid. This is the place to discuss them.
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I don't accept that. Over the years you've repeatedly been having small digs at me for things that are not connected to the topic that I'm trying to discuss. Like bringing Nick Montgomery into the debate. As if I was a huge fan of his. For the record I wasn't. Like getting your knickers in a twist over the phrase "sitter", which Nigel Clough is also using. Like belittling my posts in general as diagrams and formations. Like suggesting Clough is on your side, and I am on the other. I'm a big fan of Clough. These are pathetic attempts to divert and confuse the debate. Is is to avoid it getting to a level of detail that you're not comfortable with?

Regarding our views on football being poles apart, would you care to explain the main differences?
 
I don't accept that. Over the years you've repeatedly been having small digs at me for things that are not connected to the topic that I'm trying to discuss. Like bringing Nick Montgomery into the debate. As if I was a huge fan of his. For the record I wasn't. Like getting your knickers in a twist over the phrase "sitter", which Nigel Clough is also using. Like belittling my posts in general as diagrams and formations. Like suggesting Clough is on your side, and I am on the other. I'm a big fan of Clough. These are pathetic attempts to divert and confuse the debate. Is is to avoid it getting to a level of detail that you're not comfortable with?

Regarding our views on football being poles apart, would you care to explain the main differences?

I think I've already explained, haven't I? Try to be less sensitive. I've had digs at everyone and taken plenty in return.
 

Doyles role is vital in the way we play. Our full backs move forward and get cover from the winger but also from the centre backs. Maguire and Collins played wide of each other pulling their forwards out and Doyle drops back in to the middle of them. Time and again it happened yesterday ,definitely a Clough tactic. The only other player we have who could perform that role in McGinn ,who doesn't have the presence or tenacity Of Doyle.
 

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