Comparison with last promotion to the prem.

[Cerberus Blade]

What about also comparing to the last Blades team that did back to back promotions?

Apart from Deane I don’t think any of that side would get in this.

How about comparing the great FA Cup winning team of 1925 with the one from the 1980's with Barry Butlin and Jeff Bourne in it? That would be fun.

He won a car you know, Jeff Bourne. TC Harrison's I think it was. They offered a car as a prize to the first local player to get so many goals. Jeff, with his long blonde hair, ably assisted by Barry "the club turn" Butlin, with his dark Mexican moustache, were known as "The B Force" back then. Oh the things we used to get excited about in them days! Anyhow, Jeff bagged the goals, won the car, and never scored again. Was last seen driving off at breakneck speed in a new Ford Capri down London Road.

 

[MobileBlade]

With true homage to the legendary grafikhaus ...... here you go:

 

[grafikhaus]

With true homage to the legendary grafikhaus ...... here you go:

I'll sue.

 

[nicksufc]

Who wins?

 

[GroovyBrad]

Two completely different sides really! The 05 team were slightly more route 1 shall we say in my opinion.

Also remember Kabba had a big season the year we went up!

 

[Brother-Leech]

You can only have 11 players on the pitch though, I'm afraid.

Let's get rid of everyone not in the starting 11...

You know what I meant

 

[kop_blade9]

Who wins?

I really enjoyed the Warnock teams but Wilder's team beats him hands down every time.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

They were a force to be reckoned with back then. Carlos Edwards on the wing, Kevin Nicholls with Steve Howard and Rowan Vine upfront.

That said they did have some shite like Enoch Showunmi in their squad.

Add Feeney, Davies, Barnett etc.

 

[Bladesman]

Add Feeney, Davies, Barnett etc.

Strange time to be in The Championship, small clubs used to get promoted and hang around a bit longer in this division. The only one at the moment is Burton and they look like they will be going back to where they came from.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Strange time to be in The Championship, small clubs used to get promoted and hang around a bit longer in this division. The only one at the moment is Burton and they look like they will be going back to where they came from.

To be fair, SWFC have manged to stay here 6 seasons this time and will probably stick around a while longer.

 

[bornablade]

What about also comparing to the last Blades team that did back to back promotions?

Apart from Deane I don’t think any of that side would get in this.

I think Wilder would be involved somewhere.

 

[Silent Blade]

What about also comparing to the last Blades team that did back to back promotions?

Apart from Deane I don’t think any of that side would get in this.

Tracey

 

[Dkc]

Who wins?

Moore in for Blackman and it's 3 points for Wilder, none for Warnock

 

[Groucho Blade]

Didn’t Jagielka play in midfield during the promotion season?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Didn’t Jagielka play in midfield during the promotion season?

No.

He started out as a midfielder.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Because reading is good for you, especially a bedtime story with the kids.

Thanks Uncle Ken. Can we go swimming tomorrow?

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Didn’t Jagielka play in midfield during the promotion season?

Yes, Jaggers played most of that season in centre mid, usually with Nicholas Montgomery. Morgan and Short were usually the two centre halves although Bromby stepped in quite a bit when Short was injured. When Bromby went to ch, Kozzie got in as right back. Playing in a 4-4-2 in the first half of the season Alan Quinn got the left side mid role and Kabba partnered Shippers up top. Starting in the home game against Wednesday in December, Mr W***er started faffing around with the team formation and team selection. He went 4-3-3 for a bit, Armstrong started getting in for Quinn and Tonge went from sub to first team regular. Only two of um played the full season Kenny and Jags, a hell of a lot of players played 20/30 games that year.

Of the 1990 promotion team Deane, Agana, Tracey, Bradders, Stan, Jock and Whitehouse would have easily held their own in the current team. How many of the current team would have got in DBs direct style '90 team though?

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

At that stage of the season it was Shipperley and Kabba leading the line, Kabba was on fire at that stage of the season. Only went pear shaped for him (Kabba), when Mr W***er started prating about with selection and formations.

Yes, that was about the time he started to see himself as a master tactician rather than a manager who was quite good at getting the best out of a fairly ordinary group of players.

Dave Basset, before him, fell into exactly the same trap. I once read a letter in the Green ' Un describing his team selection towards the end of his time with us as being " Like a game of musical shirts " and that about summed it up for me.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Billy Whitehurst regularly used to leave three opposition players on the floor too, but I'm not sure he'd make the current squad either.

All entirely as a result of his mesmerising skills and astonishing burst of speed.

 

[oldblade]

At that stage of the season it was Shipperley and Kabba leading the line, Kabba was on fire at that stage of the season. Only went pear shaped for him (Kabba), when Mr W***er started prating about with selection and formations.

Not true. Kabba's last goal of that season was scored on 26th November 2005. The formation didn't really change until Akinbiyi was signed. That didn't happen until January 2006.

I agree, Kabba had been on fire for the first 3 months of the season, but I seem to remember rumours that he might move and when interviewed around that time he didn't exactly quash those rumours. This may have been a ploy to try and get a better deal with us. I don't know. Anyway, his loss of form seemed to coincide with that, rather than any non existent (at that time) change in our formation.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Not true. Kabba's last goal of that season was scored on 26th November 2005. The formation didn't really change until Akinbiyi was signed. That didn't happen until January 2006.

I agree, Kabba had been on fire for the first 3 months of the season, but I seem to remember rumours that he might move and when interviewed around that time he didn't exactly quash those rumours. This may have been a ploy to try and get a better deal with us. I don't know. Anyway, his loss of form seemed to coincide with that, rather than any non existent (at that time) change in our formation.

There was a weird thing going on in the first half of that season where Kabba would always score every time we lost.

 

[blade too long]

What about also comparing to the last Blades team that did back to back promotions?

Apart from Deane I don’t think any of that side would get in this.

Wilder definitely wouldn't get in

 

[finlaytheblade]

There was a weird thing going on in the first half of that season where Kabba would always score every time we lost.

After that flying start to the season Kabba got tendinitis in his kneecap which effected him badly he was never the same player again

 

[blade too long]

League Division Two table after close of play on 04 November 1989

Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Sheffield United 16 10 5 1 30 17 13 35
2 Leeds United 16 10 5 1 27 14 13 35
3 Newcastle United 16 9 4 3 33 19 14 31
4 Sunderland 16 8 4 4 27 23 4 28
5 West Ham United 16 7 5 4 25 18 7 26
6 Oldham Athletic 16 7 5 4 22 18 4 26
7 Swindon Town 15 7 4 4 28 18 10 25
8 Ipswich Town 16 7 4 5 26 23 3 25
9 Blackburn Rovers 15 5 9 1 25 16 9 24
10 Plymouth Argyle 16 7 3 6 25 21 4 24

 

[blade too long]

when you look at 89 90

we won 24 lost 9 and drew 13
so dropped points in just 1 off half of all the games
finishing second on gd to leeds both on 85 points
we are 1 off winning half as many games after only 16 games

 

[silver blade]

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere or if the table below doesn't line up properly.

Here is part of the league table from 2005/6 season after 16 games the last time we were promoted to the topflight:

PL W D L PTS
1. Sheff U 16 12 2 2 38
2. Reading 16 10 5 1 35
3. Luton 16 8 4 4 28

And here is now:

P W D L Pts
1 Wolves 16 11 2 3 35
2 Sheff U 16 11 0 5 33
3 Cardiff 16 9 4 3 31

makes for encouraging reading, no?

Still a long way to go of course, but we are on course at present, though 5 points worse off than that season that we ended up 2nd with 90 points. In someways this team doesn't feel as good as that one but who knows, Leon Clarke might be the Shipperly for us and we need Brookes to be our Danny Webber. UTB

And in this promotion season Cardiff were I rivals then as now
1 Leicester City 16 10 4 2 26 11 2.364 15 24
2 Luton Town 16 9 4 3 29 10 2.900 19 22
3 Cardiff City 16 8 6 2 25 14 1.786 11 22
4 Sheffield United 16 7 7 2 30 21 1.429 9 21
5 Hull City 16 9 3 4 20 16 1.250 4 21
6 Oxford United 16 8 4 4 24 19 1.263 5 20
7 Norwich City 16 7 5 4 18 14 1.286 4 19
8 Carlisle United 16 6 7 3 21 18 1.167 3 19
9 Sunderland 16 7 3 6 23 18 1.278 5 17
10 Middlesbrough 16 6 4 6 23 23 1.000 0 16
11 Sheffield Wednesday 17 6 4 7 21 27 0.778 -6 16
12 Swindon Town 16 6 3 7 19 16 1.188 3 15
13 Portsmouth 16 5 4 7 24 22 1.091 2 14
14 Queens Park Rangers 16 6 2 8 26 26 1.000 0 14
15 Millwall 16 5 4 7 18 19 0.947 -1 14
16 Watford 16 4 6 6 18 25 0.720 -7 14
17 Bolton Wanderers 17 5 3 9 19 26 0.731 -7 13
18 Orient 16 3 7 6 11 22 0.500 -11 13
19 Birmingham City 16 4 4 8 16 21 0.762 -5 12
20 Bristol City 16 3 4 9 18 32 0.563 -14 10
21 Blackburn Rovers 16 2 6 8 13 26 0.500 -13 10
22 Charlton Athletic 16 1 6 9 12 28 0.429 -16 8

 

[Bladepicker]

Who wins?

Would be a good game.

I'd go with the home side.

 

[Silent Blade]

And in this promotion season Cardiff were I rivals then as now
1 Leicester City 16 10 4 2 26 11 2.364 15 24
2 Luton Town 16 9 4 3 29 10 2.900 19 22
3 Cardiff City 16 8 6 2 25 14 1.786 11 22
4 Sheffield United 16 7 7 2 30 21 1.429 9 21
5 Hull City 16 9 3 4 20 16 1.250 4 21
6 Oxford United 16 8 4 4 24 19 1.263 5 20
7 Norwich City 16 7 5 4 18 14 1.286 4 19
8 Carlisle United 16 6 7 3 21 18 1.167 3 19
9 Sunderland 16 7 3 6 23 18 1.278 5 17
10 Middlesbrough 16 6 4 6 23 23 1.000 0 16
11 Sheffield Wednesday 17 6 4 7 21 27 0.778 -6 16
12 Swindon Town 16 6 3 7 19 16 1.188 3 15
13 Portsmouth 16 5 4 7 24 22 1.091 2 14
14 Queens Park Rangers 16 6 2 8 26 26 1.000 0 14
15 Millwall 16 5 4 7 18 19 0.947 -1 14
16 Watford 16 4 6 6 18 25 0.720 -7 14
17 Bolton Wanderers 17 5 3 9 19 26 0.731 -7 13
18 Orient 16 3 7 6 11 22 0.500 -11 13
19 Birmingham City 16 4 4 8 16 21 0.762 -5 12
20 Bristol City 16 3 4 9 18 32 0.563 -14 10
21 Blackburn Rovers 16 2 6 8 13 26 0.500 -13 10
22 Charlton Athletic 16 1 6 9 12 28 0.429 -16 8

As of 8/11/1970 after winning 3-1 at Blackburn! Remember the match well despite missing the first half (and TC's opener)!

 

[nicksufc]

Not true. Kabba's last goal of that season was scored on 26th November 2005. The formation didn't really change until Akinbiyi was signed. That didn't happen until January 2006.

I agree, Kabba had been on fire for the first 3 months of the season, but I seem to remember rumours that he might move and when interviewed around that time he didn't exactly quash those rumours. This may have been a ploy to try and get a better deal with us. I don't know. Anyway, his loss of form seemed to coincide with that, rather than any non existent (at that time) change in our formation.

Just looking back, he scored 6 goals in his first 7 games (up to 10th September) but then just 4 more over the rest of the season. Webber and Shipperley scored far more consistently over the season.

 

[Sandygate Blade]

League Division Two table after close of play on 04 November 1989

Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Sheffield United 16 10 5 1 30 17 13 35
2 Leeds United 16 10 5 1 27 14 13 35
3 Newcastle United 16 9 4 3 33 19 14 31
4 Sunderland 16 8 4 4 27 23 4 28
5 West Ham United 16 7 5 4 25 18 7 26
6 Oldham Athletic 16 7 5 4 22 18 4 26
7 Swindon Town 15 7 4 4 28 18 10 25
8 Ipswich Town 16 7 4 5 26 23 3 25
9 Blackburn Rovers 15 5 9 1 25 16 9 24
10 Plymouth Argyle 16 7 3 6 25 21 4 24

Looking at table in 89/90. Top 3 were same at end of season. Just us and Leeds reversed places