Outgoing? Chris Wilder

[Sean Thornton]

The new owners gave him a 3 year contract a matter of months ago.
If they want him gone, they need to pay up.
It would be incredibly tinpot if they're trying to wriggle out of their contractual obligations.

They've allowed a pretty substantial leak on this and for me, it's now too late for them to keep Wilder. The uncertainty hanging over Wilder will stink the place out and it'll impact our Summer business.

If they're genuinely going all in on their AI approach, and not backing Wilder at all on targets then they're totally clueless.
No issue in using the AI on punts for development players, but if they think Plovdiv & Peru are going to dish out oven ready propositions, then they need to chuck their computers in the bin.

If they want him gone they’ll have to pay up but before any facts are known let’s suggest they will try not to.

Where is the suggestion that these “AI” signings are deemed to be first team starters?

It’s usually the trolls and Grunters who like to muddy the waters on here.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Sounds like if you want some decking doing, Wits yer man

Aye
Although you’d need more than the 2 short planks ‘available’

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

“He’s a grown man” - exactly the reason he should police what he says.

Yep and im just saying to hold Wilder responsible seems quite mad to me.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

If they want him gone they’ll have to pay up but before any facts are known let’s suggest they will try not to.

Where is the suggestion that these “AI” signings are deemed to be first team starters?

It’s usually the trolls and Grunters who like to muddy the waters on here.

It's widely reported that we're going heavily down the AI route.
The owners said it themselves in their statement.

I'm not sure I qualify as a grunter or troll, but you're welcome to your view.

 

[Jan Age]

IMO we set ourselves years behind where we decided not back Slav.. at some point we have to forgoe short term pain for long term gain

 

[Danetheblade]

Yep and im just saying to hold Wilder responsible seems quite mad to me.

If someone came up to you and called you a cunt, would you hold them responsible?

 

[ben1987]

His 3 year contact could fairly easily have had a break clause.

The board could quite easily be discussing wether to use that option or not and might not actually be sacking him just choosing to part ways.

Imagine it would have had a tasty promotion bonus and if they’re protecting their own interests it could well have had a missing out clause as well.

We will likely never know.

 

[ben1987]

IMO we set ourselves years behind where we decided not back Slav.. at some point we have to forgoe short term pain for long term gain

The Slav backing was fucking ridiculous to be fair. He’d always played using wide players. We had none.

He brought in Gibbs-White for one side, had to pull Ndiaye out the academy and used Ben Osborn as a left winger.

It would have been very interesting to see how things would’ve panned out had Slav had this seasons budget.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Wilder is more likely the one telling him to do it.

They are probably both pissed at this point.

 

[Danetheblade]

Wilder is more likely the one telling him to do it.

Wouldn’t surprise me.. sure he got his lapdog to do similar the last time he skulked out the back door. Complete twat

 

[Pedro Verde]

The new owners gave him a 3 year contract a matter of months ago.
If they want him gone, they need to pay up.
It would be incredibly tinpot if they're trying to wriggle out of their contractual obligations.

Is there any evidence to suggest this

They've allowed a pretty substantial leak on this and for me, it's now too late for them to keep Wilder. The uncertainty hanging over Wilder will stink the place out and it'll impact our Summer business.

The leak may well have not come from the club

If they're genuinely going all in on their AI approach, and not backing Wilder at all on targets then they're totally clueless.

There is no evidence to suggest this

No issue in using the AI on punts for development players, but if they think Plovdiv & Peru are going to dish out oven ready propositions, then they need to chuck their computers in the bin.

Who is to say that the AI approach is mainly for punts as such as the three weve signed who are pretty obviously punts. There is some evidence that the data approach works on finding players ready for first team as has already been said Brentford are pretty good at it. Its going to be a mixed approach anybody that says otherwise do not know what they are talking about

 

[Half Bond Jls]

Imagine your best mate getting slagged off constantly by a bunch of ungrateful simpletons and not having a go back every so often. These petty grudges against Wilder are getting more and more ridiculous

Hey up Wit. Is Chris staying or going?!.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yep and im just saying to hold Wilder responsible seems quite mad to me.

You’d expect his best mate to keep his powder dry in deference to CW’s position. Makes you wonder who’s top dog in that friendship.

 

[Danetheblade]

You’d expect his best mate to keep his powder dry in deference to CW’s position. Makes you wonder who’s top dog in that friendship.

I’d be pretty certain Wilders probably telling him to do it. They’re sat on holiday together, it’d be orettt straightforward to tell him “hang on Wit, don’t be a twat”

 

[LondonBlade89]

Is there any evidence to suggest this

Even a fairly dense journalist seems to have deduced the leaks are coming from the club.

 

[MartBlade]

This thread now appears to be full of people calling out Wit for defending his mate in colourful terms…. whilst also being perfectly happy to call Wilder twat, shit, c@@t, dinosaur (and much more that I’ve read).
Fine if you want him gone … say so and explain why… but at least keep it respectful. We’re all Blades - and he is one of the greatest managers we have ever had (fact not opinion).
I’m not defending Wit but I’d also point out that COH are not exactly covering themselves with glory with such a complete lack of meaningful communication throughout their short tenure.

 

[Barmyblade]

Who is to say that the AI approach is mainly for punts as such as the three weve signed who are pretty obviously punts. There is some evidence that the data approach works on finding players ready for first team as has already been said Brentford are pretty good at it. Its going to be a mixed approach anybody that says otherwise do not know what they are talking about

Data analysis isn’t just for identifying new players. For example even basic data analysis showed we conceded twice as many goals per 90 mins when Robinson played, and received significantly less points per game.

 

[paidsy]

This thread now appears to be full of people calling out Wit for defending his mate in colourful terms…. whilst also being perfectly happy to call Wilder twat, shit, c@@t, dinosaur (and much more that I’ve read).
Fine if you want him gone … say so and explain why… but at least keep it respectful. We’re all Blades - and he is one of the greatest managers we have ever had (fact not opinion).
I’m not defending Wit but I’d also point out that COH are not exactly covering themselves with glory with such a complete lack of meaningful communication throughout their short tenure.

What exactly do you want them to communicate right now?

 

[Sean Thornton]

It's widely reported that we're going heavily down the AI route.
The owners said it themselves in their statement.

I'm not sure I qualify as a grunter or troll, but you're welcome to your view.

Well seeing as you misinterpreted my last paragraph - l wasn’t calling you either and in reality was surprised at the negativity in your post - it’s probably fair to wonder if you’ve taken the AI comment by the board as a defining policy rather than part of the plan. Now tell me, is “heavily” your word or theirs?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Even a fairly dense journalist seems to have deduced the leaks are coming from the club.

Evidence?

 

[LondonBlade89]

Evidence?

“Taking a step back … is someone leaking in the hope Wilder walks out?”

 

[paidsy]

“Taking a step back … is someone leaking in the hope Wilder walks out?”

Is

 

[ben1987]

“Taking a step back … is someone leaking in the hope Wilder walks out?”

He’s thinking out loud / offering a theory

Proves nothing / means nothing

 

[LondonBlade89]

He’s thinking out loud / offering a theory

Proves nothing / means nothing

He’s a reporter who trades in information. It’s about as close to confirmation as you’ll get. Believe what you like.

 

[knowsnowt]

Has the twat been sacked yet?
Btw Wit, you chav spiv. Please don't hurt me.

 

[ben1987]

He’s a reporter who trades in information. It’s about as close to confirmation as you’ll get. Believe what you like.

He literally says IS in there, as in he’s asking a question.

I’ll believe stuff that’s reported as fact with a source.

If we was reporting it as fact he would say something like “my sources are telling me the leak has come from the club”

Not is someone in the club leaking stuff so he’ll quit?

 

[PrestwichBlade]

It's widely reported that we're going heavily down the AI route.
The owners said it themselves in their statement.

I'm not sure I qualify as a grunter or troll, but you're welcome to your view.

I'm struggling to find any specific reference from them to 'AI'? Happy to be shown otherwise, but all I can find is references to more effective use of data and analytics

 

[robbiez666]

I suspect a few posters in this board need to have 'Wilder's mate' under their user name.

 

[Paisley Blade]

You’d expect his best mate to keep his powder dry in deference to CW’s position. Makes you wonder who’s top dog in that friendship.

This Wit guy pissed me off first time around, and on steroids now. Who the f does he think he is?
I’ve been pretty much 50/50 on stay/go, but I find his mate’s behaviour galling, and the fact CW doesn’t wind him is a poor look.

 

[Frank the tank]

I suspect a few posters in this board need to have 'Wilder's mate' under their user name.

Yeah good idea
Miserable cunt and undercover pig would be popular too