Can anyone understand this pre match ramble from Wilder?

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Good interview, what isn’t there to understand? He explains it pretty well - we’ve been crap at the “trust” components of team sports - character, resilience, work ethic, grit etc. That’s why we’ve lost games we should have won.

Our XG stats put us in the top 6, but the other side of the game has us 17th. Thats where we fall short on the “performance vs trust” axis.

Hulls XG stats put them in the bottom 3, but the other side of the game has them outperforming that and they’re in the top 6.
 
Wilder will do anything other than take even the remotest shred of accountability for the poor performances in the latter half of this season.

All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.

Hull are doing very well this season. Wilder has no idea how to motivate the team or best utilise the squad so he’s just completely throwing everyone under the bus.

It’s exactly what happened when he was at Watford and it’s pathetic. If it wasn’t ‘Chrissy Wilder, one of our own’, the entire fanbase would be united in wanting him gone. But because he ‘gets the club’, he’s given a free pass to do whatever he wants and people will back him.


To answer your question, in this interview he cedes that he lacks the motivational or tactical ability to get anything out or this squad, since he isn’t adaptable enough to get a tune out of players unless they fit a very specific mould.

It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.
 
Wilder will do anything other than take even the remotest shred of accountability for the poor performances in the latter half of this season.

All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.

Hull are doing very well this season. Wilder has no idea how to motivate the team or best utilise the squad so he’s just completely throwing everyone under the bus.

It’s exactly what happened when he was at Watford and it’s pathetic. If it wasn’t ‘Chrissy Wilder, one of our own’, the entire fanbase would be united in wanting him gone. But because he ‘gets the club’, he’s given a free pass to do whatever he wants and people will back him.


To answer your question, in this interview he cedes that he lacks the motivational or tactical ability to get anything out or this squad, since he isn’t adaptable enough to get a tune out of players unless they fit a very specific mould.

It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.
Disagree
He’s spot on
This squad is full of players with no heart and no bollocks.
They’re capable of playing some excellent football but crumble when under any sort of pressure.
That’s absolutely about character and not about tactics or motivation.
The Trust element is the team working together. You might say that’s Wilder’s and Knill’s responsibility but when we have conceded goals it’s been plenty of individual errors and players leaving men unmarked or not winning their physical battle.
 
Disagree
He’s spot on
This squad is full of players with no heart and no bollocks.
They’re capable of playing some excellent football but crumble when under any sort of pressure.
That’s absolutely about character and not about tactics or motivation.
The Trust element is the team working together. You might say that’s Wilder’s and Knill’s responsibility but when we have conceded goals it’s been plenty of individual errors and players leaving men unmarked or not winning their physical battle.

The majority of these players are Wilder’s players, so he’s also got to be held accountable
 
It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.

It's not that worthy of noting to be honest.

January windows obviously aren't the same as summer windows, and the most recent summer window is always going to be the most important one with the biggest effect on your current situation.

Only 13 of our 31 players were signed by Wilder.

5 came through the academy.

Of the other 13, only Tanganga and Hamer are really of any use to us.
 
Wilder will do anything other than take even the remotest shred of accountability for the poor performances in the latter half of this season.

All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.

Hull are doing very well this season. Wilder has no idea how to motivate the team or best utilise the squad so he’s just completely throwing everyone under the bus.

It’s exactly what happened when he was at Watford and it’s pathetic. If it wasn’t ‘Chrissy Wilder, one of our own’, the entire fanbase would be united in wanting him gone. But because he ‘gets the club’, he’s given a free pass to do whatever he wants and people will back him.


To answer your question, in this interview he cedes that he lacks the motivational or tactical ability to get anything out or this squad, since he isn’t adaptable enough to get a tune out of players unless they fit a very specific mould.

It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.
That also shows how easy it is to undermine good work by one disastrous window.

Strong possibility they to a squad that gained 92 points on the field he would have added McBurnie, Dunne and Darling. All on frees. All of them would have added to the squad positively.

But no, we took the sledgehammer out and the owners got it completely wrong and it’s us the supporters who pay for it.

It needed slight evolution. That was all and especially now you see the quality of the league with the team who was 5th running away with it. We’d have made top two this time. I’m confident.
 
Wilder will do anything other than take even the remotest shred of accountability for the poor performances in the latter half of this season.

All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.

Hull are doing very well this season. Wilder has no idea how to motivate the team or best utilise the squad so he’s just completely throwing everyone under the bus.

It’s exactly what happened when he was at Watford and it’s pathetic. If it wasn’t ‘Chrissy Wilder, one of our own’, the entire fanbase would be united in wanting him gone. But because he ‘gets the club’, he’s given a free pass to do whatever he wants and people will back him.


To answer your question, in this interview he cedes that he lacks the motivational or tactical ability to get anything out or this squad, since he isn’t adaptable enough to get a tune out of players unless they fit a very specific mould.

It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.
wilder only got 24 25 seasons pre season and we got 92 points , minus 2
selles did more damage to our squad that there was only one man who saved us from relegtion as hed released a third of the quality we had
in quality I mean of those who pull their weight, all those selles dumped on us were pathetic wilder shit miracles getting a tune out of inadequate players to get us safe
 
All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.
100% this.

It’s modern feckin football, has no one told him or his disciples we need talented players and a manager with an ounce of tactical ability not just the alpha guy int pub?
 
That also shows how easy it is to undermine good work by one disastrous window.

Strong possibility they to a squad that gained 92 points on the field he would have added McBurnie, Dunne and Darling. All on frees. All of them would have added to the squad positively.

But no, we took the sledgehammer out and the owners got it completely wrong and it’s us the supporters who pay for it.

It needed slight evolution. That was all and especially now you see the quality of the league with the team who was 5th running away with it. We’d have made top two this time. I’m confident.

I don't really buy this taking a sledgehammer to the team narrative. Anel and Souza were going the minute we lost the play off final so we only really lost Moore and Robinson. We never got the best out of the former and the latter was widely disliked. Brewster was the other one but again was unlikely to stay and people weren't unhappy to see him go at the time.

I do believe we'd have been higher if we had kept hold of Wilder but adding the players mentioned above and the others he was rumoured to be after wouldn't have made us a top 2 team. We would have been pushing for a play off spot and may have snuck in at the expense of Hull, but adding the players we were linked with still puts us way off Coventry and Ipswich

Last season was the very best case scenario using any bit of data you want to look at. We hugely over performed our numbers and the idea we'd be getting another 90 odd points tally doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. There's no doubt Wilder would have made us more competitive, which I expect him to do next season, but results caught up with performances at the end of last season and I don't see how we would have got close to the top 2 without a fairly dramatic shift in how we were playing
 
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That also shows how easy it is to undermine good work by one disastrous window.

Strong possibility they to a squad that gained 92 points on the field he would have added McBurnie, Dunne and Darling. All on frees. All of them would have added to the squad positively.

But no, we took the sledgehammer out and the owners got it completely wrong and it’s us the supporters who pay for it.

It needed slight evolution. That was all and especially now you see the quality of the league with the team who was 5th running away with it. We’d have made top two this time. I’m confident.
Spot on

If people don’t think that CW is trying to address our issues they must be crazy .

He got a tune out of this shower and overachieved imo during autumn / early winter .

He’s right - most of these players aren’t good enough in terms of spirit , fitness , intelligence and resilience - imo . Sure , they can play some lovely stuff but don’t have the character to get over the line on many occasions.

Our recruitment is appalling- especially last summer and this January- but January is easier to forgive as many of us , and respected football pundits , were of the opinion that Phillips and Rothwell in particular were what we needed to make a push for the top 6 .

We had a threadbare midfield at the time ,with little experience ,also unreliable players such as Tom D , O Arblaster etc . It just hasn’t worked out .

The problem isn’t Wilder , it’s the owners who screwed up royally .

We have too many players who have backbones made out of glass

And to add - maybe one of the reasons why many players are running out of gas is that they always seem to be one slight contact away from mid to long term injury . They always seem to need rebuilding . Therefore they need game management . It’s a continuous cycle of a problem .

Replace a glass built player with a glass built player
 
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Good interview, what isn’t there to understand? He explains it pretty well - we’ve been crap at the “trust” components of team sports - character, resilience, work ethic, grit etc. That’s why we’ve lost games we should have won.

Our XG stats put us in the top 6, but the other side of the game has us 17th. Thats where we fall short on the “performance vs trust” axis.

Hulls XG stats put them in the bottom 3, but the other side of the game has them outperforming that and they’re in the top 6.
Kind of tells you XG is bollocks like last Monday Brizzle 5 shots 1 on target Blades 21 shots 8 on target lose 1-0. We can stat and XG all day its the result that matters. Second Moan about XG so we would be top 6 my eyes tell me we are crap 17th is about right .. the eyes wins
 



I don't really buy this taking a sledgehammer to the team narrative. Anel and Souza were going the minute we lost the play off final so we only really lost Moore and Robinson. We never got the best out of the former and the latter was widely disliked. Brewster was the other one but again was unlikely to stay and people weren't unhappy to see him go at the time.

I do believe we'd have been higher if we had kept hold of Wilder but adding the players mentioned above and the others he was rumoured to be after wouldn't have made us a top 2 team. We would have been pushing for a play off spot and may have snuck in at the expense of Hull, but adding the players we were linked with still puts us way off Coventry and Ipswich

Last season was the very best case scenario using any bit of data you want to look at. We hugely over performed our numbers and the idea we'd be getting another 90 odd points tally doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. There's no doubt Wilder would have made us more competitive, which I expect him to do next season, but results caught up with performances at the end of last season and I don't see how we would have got close to the top 2 without a fairly dramatic shift in how we were playing
To be fair had he not lost the plot towards the end of the season we would have been closer to 100 points and automatic. Granted we couldnt live with Burnley and Leeds as in games agsinst them the rest we were a match for
 
To be fair had he not lost the plot towards the end of the season we would have been closer to 100 points and automatic. Granted we couldnt live with Burnley and Leeds as in games agsinst them the rest we were a match for
We couldn’t live with Leeds and Burnley and look where they are now.
Another season of utter misery if we’d have gone up
 
Wilder will do anything other than take even the remotest shred of accountability for the poor performances in the latter half of this season.

All this talk about ‘character’ is yet another smokescreen to distract away from his completely inept approach to games, from a tactical perspective.

Hull are doing very well this season. Wilder has no idea how to motivate the team or best utilise the squad so he’s just completely throwing everyone under the bus.

It’s exactly what happened when he was at Watford and it’s pathetic. If it wasn’t ‘Chrissy Wilder, one of our own’, the entire fanbase would be united in wanting him gone. But because he ‘gets the club’, he’s given a free pass to do whatever he wants and people will back him.


To answer your question, in this interview he cedes that he lacks the motivational or tactical ability to get anything out or this squad, since he isn’t adaptable enough to get a tune out of players unless they fit a very specific mould.

It’s worth noting that only 1/4 of the past two seasons worth of transfer windows didn’t have Wilder at the helm.
Pigs on here will be all over this.
 
Spot on

If people don’t think that CW is trying to address our issues they must be crazy .

He got a tune out of this shower and overachieved imo during autumn / early winter .

He’s right - most of these players aren’t good enough in terms of spirit , fitness , intelligence and resilience - imo . Sure , they can play some lovely stuff but don’t have the character to get over the line on many occasions.

Our recruitment is appalling- especially last summer and this January- but January is easier to forgive as many of us , and respected football pundits , were of the opinion that Phillips and Rothwell in particular were what we needed to make a push for the top 6 .

We had a threadbare midfield at the time ,with little experience ,also unreliable players such as Tom D , O Arblaster etc . It just hasn’t worked out .

The problem isn’t Wilder , it’s the owners who screwed up royally .

We have too many players who have backbones made out of glass

And to add - maybe one of the reasons why many players are running out of gas is that they always seem to be one slight contact away from mid to long term injury . They always seem to need rebuilding . Therefore they need game management . It’s a continuous cycle of a problem .

Replace a glass built player with a glass built player
Keep clapping pal
 
Pigs on here will be all over this.
I honestly couldn’t give two shits about what any of them lot think. They’re fading into irrelevance at breakneck speed and could potentially be staring at the prospect of relegation to league 2 this time next year- if not even ceasing to exist.

I find it quite ridiculous that we’re nearly bottom of the form table and you’ve still got people talking about what a cracking job Wilder has done. All he’s done over the past couple of months or so is pass the buck and come up with excuses.
 
To be fair had he not lost the plot towards the end of the season we would have been closer to 100 points and automatic. Granted we couldnt live with Burnley and Leeds as in games agsinst them the rest we were a match for

I don't know if he did lose the plot. You could argue he didn't take enough notice of performances but if he'd suddenly changed our approach and we'd started losing, he'd have got hammered for that too. I just think results finally caught up our performances
 
I honestly couldn’t give two shits about what any of them lot think. They’re fading into irrelevance at breakneck speed and could potentially be staring at the prospect of relegation to league 2 this time next year- if not even ceasing to exist.

I find it quite ridiculous that we’re nearly bottom of the form table and you’ve still got people talking about what a cracking job Wilder has done. All he’s done over the past couple of months or so is pass the buck and come up with excuses.
Any other club would have sacked him after the Norwich game
 
Spot on

If people don’t think that CW is trying to address our issues they must be crazy .

He got a tune out of this shower and overachieved imo during autumn / early winter .

He’s right - most of these players aren’t good enough in terms of spirit , fitness , intelligence and resilience - imo . Sure , they can play some lovely stuff but don’t have the character to get over the line on many occasions.

Our recruitment is appalling- especially last summer and this January- but January is easier to forgive as many of us , and respected football pundits , were of the opinion that Phillips and Rothwell in particular were what we needed to make a push for the top 6 .

We had a threadbare midfield at the time ,with little experience ,also unreliable players such as Tom D , O Arblaster etc . It just hasn’t worked out .

The problem isn’t Wilder , it’s the owners who screwed up royally .

We have too many players who have backbones made out of glass

And to add - maybe one of the reasons why many players are running out of gas is that they always seem to be one slight contact away from mid to long term injury . They always seem to need rebuilding . Therefore they need game management . It’s a continuous cycle of a problem .

Replace a glass built player with a glass built player
Whilst my heart agrees with this, my head says that if we aren’t on the right trajectory by November then we need a complete rethink and use the remainder of next season to overhaul the club’s thinking.
 
Disagree
He’s spot on
This squad is full of players with no heart and no bollocks.
They’re capable of playing some excellent football but crumble when under any sort of pressure.
That’s absolutely about character and not about tactics or motivation.
The Trust element is the team working together. You might say that’s Wilder’s and Knill’s responsibility but when we have conceded goals it’s been plenty of individual errors and players leaving men unmarked or not winning their physical battle.

Thought for a while that we have plenty of players with ability but they lack character.

The irony is the players were missing are Jack Robinson and Olie McBurnie.

Both had limited ability ( a rightly deserved negative criticism) wise but both were fighters with a strong will to win.
 
Whilst my heart agrees with this, my head says that if we aren’t on the right trajectory by November then we need a complete rethink and use the remainder of next season to overhaul the club’s thinking.
Not disagreeing

I’m a Utd supporter first and foremost- they hopefully, will still be here as managers come and go .

I just think that Wilder gets some unfair criticism under the circumstances. Pep would struggle with these tools -
 

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