Camera van on way to Scunthorpe

[SwissBlade]

Looks like the government are taking a sensible approach...

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16079703

Speed limits set to be increased to 80 mph on motorways from 2013

Can someone clever at maths work out the environmental impact... The man at the RAC reckons emissions will be increased by people driving faster. Whilst I'm sure this is true, I'm not sure what impact a reduced journey time will have eg 70 mph over a longer period of time with lower emissions output or 80 mph with a shorter journey time and reduced emissions...

I can't be arsed to work it out

 

[madeinsheffield]

To be fair the emissions from cars in the UK is a fraction of a percent compared to the world emissions, it's an over used excuse to turn the motorists over of this country. So 10mph won't even be measurable.

 

[Darren]

To be fair the emissions from cars in the UK is a fraction of a percent compared to the world emissions, it's an over used excuse to turn the motorists over of this country. So 10mph won't even be measurable.

According to this:

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2011/0...ilip-hammond’s-plan-to-raise-the-speed-limit/

Current emissions from road transport are around 83 million toones of CO2 (70% of the 119 million tonnes from all surface transport). Increasing the limit to 80 mph would apparently add 3.5 million tonnes = a 4% increase.

 

[beightonblade]

The standard of driving in the UK is woefull ................ 80mph

 

[madeinsheffield]

If they do up the limit, the 'green mob' can still drive at 70mph if they choose.....just don't sit there in the middle lane not overtaking - middle and outside lanes are for overtaking, something a lot of motorist should try and remember

 

[blade too long]

at last recognition modern cars do brake better , and are more stable, 70 was ok for horse drawn vehicles

 

[CG Blade]

If they do up the limit, the 'green mob' can still drive at 70mph if they choose.....just don't sit there in the middle lane not overtaking - middle and outside lanes are for overtaking, something a lot of motorist should try and remember

Here, Here, Gets my goat people sat in the Middle lane....... and I am still waiting for my ticket from the Scunny game, so hopefully it is not going to arrive.

 

[SoccerCynic]

So, when/if the limit is increased to 80mph how many will then increase their personal limit to 90mph, 100mph. And how many of you would still have got a ticket if the new limit was in force. Personally I think 80mph is probably about right but how many of those arrogant third lane maniacs will keep to that and still complain when they get a speeding fine.

 

[raul]

I'll usually drive at anywhere between 75 and 85 on the motorway. When the speed limit goes up I'll be usually driving at between 75 and 85 on the motorway. Why the assumption that everyone is suddenly going to drive faster?

 

[DuncDisorderly]

at last recognition modern cars do brake better , and are more stable, 70 was ok for horse drawn vehicles

The squidgy organic element to the braking system (the brain of the klutz pressing the pedal) doesn't work any faster though, does it..?

 

[Rustyblade]

I'll usually drive at anywhere between 75 and 85 on the motorway. When the speed limit goes up I'll be usually driving at between 75 and 85 on the motorway. Why the assumption that everyone is suddenly going to drive faster?

For exactly the same reason that people think they can get away with being just a certain percent over the limit now.

 

[Balham]

Surely the answer is to have condition-dependent speed limits? If it's raining biblically, there's no way I'm going to do 80. Similarly, it's the muppets who drive at 80mph about two yards from the back bumper of the car in front when it's busy who cause a lot of the problems.

Start enforcing basic driving rules - tailgating, sitting in the middle lane, speeding - as fixed penalty offences and the whole motorway network should improve.

 

[Micalijo]

Spot on Balham, but you are forgetting that Swiss has new wheels and is a brilliant driver with quicker reactions than everyone else.

 

[Sean the Blade]

Now it may be me, but I went to Leicester on Tuesday. On the new four lane stretch of motorway in Derbyshire I counted (I am that sad) the speed cameras on that bit of road... 36 cameras in each direction, 72 in total, on a length of road no longer than 20 miles!!!!

If that isn't overkill I don't know what is.

Incidently, I was under the impression that cameras could only be sited in areas where there was a history of serious accidents. This is a BRAND NEW piece of motorway, so one can only conclude that the Highways Agency deliberately designed a dangerous road... oh, sorry, our motorways are the safest roads we have.

If the accident blackspot 'spin' were true, you wouldn't be able to move for cameras around junctions 28 & 29 as there are serious accidents there EVERY morning and evening, but accidents mean stationary traffic, so they wouldn't be able to further 'milk' unsuspecting motorists.

I can cope with speed regulation, it's the hypocrisy and double speak that sticks in my craw, that and the way people are so dumb as to swallow the bullsh*t!

 

[Rustyblade]

Now it may be me, but I went to Leicester on Tuesday.

Probably was you then.

 

[SwissBlade]

Spot on Balham, but you are forgetting that Swiss has new wheels and is a brilliant driver with quicker reactions than everyone else.

I don't think I've said I have better reactions than anyone and I agree, safe driving depends on the conditions, but knock yourself out on this one mic

 

[Wapping Blade]

Now it may be me, but I went to Leicester on Tuesday. On the new four lane stretch of motorway in Derbyshire I counted (I am that sad) the speed cameras on that bit of road... 36 cameras in each direction, 72 in total, on a length of road no longer than 20 miles!!!!

If that isn't overkill I don't know what is.

Incidently, I was under the impression that cameras could only be sited in areas where there was a history of serious accidents. This is a BRAND NEW piece of motorway, so one can only conclude that the Highways Agency deliberately designed a dangerous road... oh, sorry, our motorways are the safest roads we have.

If the accident blackspot 'spin' were true, you wouldn't be able to move for cameras around junctions 28 & 29 as there are serious accidents there EVERY morning and evening, but accidents mean stationary traffic, so they wouldn't be able to further 'milk' unsuspecting motorists.

I can cope with speed regulation, it's the hypocrisy and double speak that sticks in my craw, that and the way people are so dumb as to swallow the bullsh*t!

Same with other speed control Motorways (M25, M42. etc.), the cameras are only on when there is a speed limit posted on the gantries which does work in controlling the traffic flow.

 

[bricktop]

I do more Motorway driving than most, as work in Nottingham so i have to drive a lot of the time. There is a whole lot of stuff that drivers do on the Motorway that would be classed as poor driving.

I always try and drive to a high standard at all times, use the inside lane as the driving lane, and middle and outside lanes as overtaking lanes, use both mirrors regularly and check my blind spot when changing lanes just to be sure. Try and plan what i'm going to do before i do it. When its busy i stick to the limit, and tend to put my foot down when it's quieter.

My own personal bugbears are people who change lanes and cut you up without having the decency to indicate first, and people who drive at night with full beam on.

With regards to the M1, the managed motorway section J25-J28, in my opinion is the most dangerous section, as there is a lot more people changing lane, people drive a lot slower, and for some reason seem to drive a lot closer to the car in front. It's not a nice section of Motorway to drive, as is the M42 around Birmingham.

I'm all for the speed limit to be raised to 80 mph, as it would be almost as safe, and the modern cars could comfortably manage that on the Motorway, and with the advances in safety on modern cars, i think it is a safe limit.