Camera van on way to Scunthorpe

[shorehamview]

the thing is to do over 120 , it cant read higher speeds, trust me

Indeed. Also, if you suck on a 2p coin and shove a mentholyptus up your arse you will blow clear on a breathalyser even if you're shitfaced, trust me.

Policemen also love to be told that they are "wasting their and our fucking time persecuting speeders, and should be out catching rapists and murderers".

They also like to be told that "I'm a freemason" or "my brother plays golf/snooker/hide the sausage with your Chief Constable".

This story could be apocryphal.

The word you are looking for is "bollocks". This you can trust me on.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Youre alright as long as you keep it under 88mph...

 

[Jonboy60]

In the words of one of the honourable MPs,who's name escapes me at the moment.the (thieving bastards).your all FERAL UNDERCLASSES.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

You speed you get nicked. We all do it and we all know it can happen.

At what point does this have anything to do with Sheffield United by the way? Or is this Blackwells fault?

I actually thought that Camera Van was the name of a player and he was on his way to Scunthorpe and why haven't we bought him Otherwise it has no great deal to do with SUFC

 

[bricktop]

Perhaps you could combine the middle pedal in your car with the speedometer and your eyes and thus make sure you don't speed? And if you do get caught speeding, stop bleating about it.

I wish you had posted this important snippet of advice on Saturday morning then i might have driven sensibly at 70 mph.

I'm not complaining or 'bleeting', i was doing over the limit and now i'm waiting to find out if i'm to pay the penalty. I'm just annoyed that in a county the size of Lincolnshire with all its dangerous A-Roads, then the logic in parking a camera van on a flat, racetrack straight piece of motorway when you've not numerous twisting, dangerous other roads that require speed cameras in the name of safety.

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I know! Fancy those police bastards making you break the speed limit. Twats, wankers and arseholes.

After all, they even get in the car with you and press the accelerator for you just so you will speed, and nobody actually knows what the speed limit is on the motorway anyway.

The fuckers will be arresting people for burglary, fraud, rape and murder next. Bastards!

So i presume that you've never sped in your car?

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I can confirm they do,but its held over the river in Hull.I am also waiting to see if ive been collared by the said van.


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Anyone else notice that some parked alongside the dual carrigeway in front of the pub had got parking tickets whilst others hadn't?

I didn't notice that, but i parked up on a grass verge just after the Motorway, and didn't get a ticket.

 

[Bedrock Blade]

The UK has an unwritten constitution so nowhere is it written that after passage through parliament and after being given the Royal Assent a statute becomes law. That is just a constitutional convention that everyone (most notably the courts) accepts.

I don't see a distinction between an act becoming law and having the force of law. It amounts to the same thing.

Do you recognise that an act having the force of law is a viable description of how statutes can achieve the status of law regardless of whether a distinction can or cannot be made?

Please indulge me on this. It's very interesting for me to learn how the legal system works.

 

[Bladesway]

Or Warnock's maybe?

I knew you would start to see it my way if we waited long enough for it to sink in

 

[LSF]

I knew you would start to see it my way if we waited long enough for it to sink in

Nice one

Other than your deep seated hatred (?) of NW, I actually enjoy and concur with much of what you post :-}

 

[Darren]

Do you recognise that an act having the force of law is a viable description of how statutes can achieve the status of law regardless of whether a distinction can or cannot be made?

Please indulge me on this. It's very interesting for me to learn how the legal system works.

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

 

[Bedrock Blade]

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

Ok. I can see i'm on a hiding to nothing here and shall leave it. Thanks for your input. You've actually been more of a help than you probably realise.

 

[Darren]

Ok. I can see i'm on a hiding to nothing here and shall leave it. Thanks for your input. You've actually been more of a help than you probably realise.

It's not a question of being on a hiding to nothing. I genuinely have no idea what you mean by your question above. If you want to explain what you mean I will have a go at answering it.

 

[2ndtenorblade]

This thread adds a whole new dimension to the phrase "Scunthorpe turn off"

 

[shorehamview]

So i presume that you've never sped in your car?

On the contrary, I do on occasion speed. As do most of us.
On the one occasion I was caught I paid the fine and accepted the three points.

There was no pissing and moaning about the police. There's your difference.

 

[travellingblade]

I've just driven passed the same spot on the M180, heading East.

There are FOUR camera warning signs, in short succession, just before the point where the van stands.

Isn't that enough warning for you?

 

[Rustyblade]

I've just driven passed the same spot on the M180, heading East.

There are FOUR camera warning signs, in short succession, just before the point where the van stands.

Isn't that enough warning for you?

You mean we should pay actual attention to signs now? Bloody hell. They'll be asking us to keep to the left next.

 

[Eskimo]

Ouch - got my notice of intended prosecution yesterday 79mph!!

 

[Bath Blade]

Ouch - got my notice of intended prosecution yesterday 79mph!!

Was that 79 in a 70? Seems a bit harsh. I've driven through speed cameras on the motorway at up to 85mph and never had a ticket.

 

[madeinsheffield]

I've just driven passed the same spot on the M180, heading East.

There are FOUR camera warning signs, in short succession, just before the point where the van stands.

Isn't that enough warning for you?

I didn't get chance to see them at the speed I was travelling!!

 

[SwissBlade]

I love how the police and others come out with things like "well there were camera signs for the full x no of miles of the road and the cameras are painted yellow" - Thats alright then!

Well actually its not, because for most of the areas where there are signs, there are no cameras, they just have to have them there in case. So you ignore them.

Camera van's aren't obvious, they are white transit van's the same as most brickies, plumbers, sparkies and decorators have!

Most of the cameras are yellow, but in built up areas, whilst trying to concentrate on the road and look out for people crossing the road, I am not looking for Camera's. Of course some will say that you shouldn't be speeding in the first place. True, but speed limits are frequently be changed - 50 to 40 then to 30, with little justification for the change. Where is the evidence that reduction in speed actually prevents accidents?

Cars are getting safer, thats a fact. The driver and passengers are extremely safe now, the tests are getting stricter for new cars. Brakes, Tyres and safety systems are getting so much better than they were even 1, 5, 10 years ago and the new laws for things like using mobile phones have also helped driver safety. But this is contradicted when you spend your time watching your speedo, watching out for Cameras and vans and not actually watching the road. Thats safe!

I bet those who passed the speed camera's when they were around the limit either braked at the last minute or spent the next 20 mins thinking about the points and fine, rather than paying attention to the road! Thats safe!

Its revenue generation.

 

[Eskimo]

Yes 79 in a 70. I did not see the warning signs but did on the way back. I think this ommission may be due to the weight of traffic in nearside lane which was chokker at 1-40pm. Not a good week for a huddersfield based Blade!

 

[SoccerCynic]

So, some of you admit to exceeding the speed limit by between 20% and 30% which behavior suggests you are regularly exceeding the limit. Warnings are given in advance which apparently is ignored. If it was not stupid it can only be arrogance that each individual can decide for themself what speed their capabilities as a driver will allow. It may be generating money but you are not forced to contribute...you could always keep to the limit. One contributor even says that traffic was heavy but was Still exceeding the limit. Do the coppers have something better to do? You bet your life they have and if some of you could learn to keep to the limit then maybe they could go off and catch some burglars. Lecture over from someone who himself had a speeding ticket once. It seems that some never learn.

 

[Micalijo]

So, some of you admit to exceeding the speed limit by between 20% and 30% which behavior suggests you are regularly exceeding the limit. Warnings are given in advance which apparently is ignored. If it was not stupid it can only be arrogance that each individual can decide for themself what speed their capabilities as a driver will allow. It may be generating money but you are not forced to contribute...you could always keep to the limit. One contributor even says that traffic was heavy but was Still exceeding the limit. Do the coppers have something better to do? You bet your life they have and if some of you could learn to keep to the limit then maybe they could go off and catch some burglars. Lecture over from someone who himself had a speeding ticket once. It seems that some never learn.

Top stuff Soccer lad.

 

[stannyblade]

So, some of you admit to exceeding the speed limit by between 20% and 30% which behavior suggests you are regularly exceeding the limit. Warnings are given in advance which apparently is ignored. If it was not stupid it can only be arrogance that each individual can decide for themself what speed their capabilities as a driver will allow. It may be generating money but you are not forced to contribute...you could always keep to the limit. One contributor even says that traffic was heavy but was Still exceeding the limit. Do the coppers have something better to do? You bet your life they have and if some of you could learn to keep to the limit then maybe they could go off and catch some burglars. Lecture over from someone who himself had a speeding ticket once. It seems that some never learn.

Never had one myself. Brownie who started this thread never asked for sympathy or even moaned about the potential fine/points just stated that there was a van there which lets face it wasnt just there on the off chance they knew there were hundreds of cars coming from Sheffield so they could cash in. If you do the speed then you have to accept that you may get done

 

[SoccerCynic]

Never had one myself. Brownie who started this thread never asked for sympathy or even moaned about the potential fine/points just stated that there was a van there which lets face it wasnt just there on the off chance they knew there were hundreds of cars coming from Sheffield so they could cash in. If you do the speed then you have to accept that you may get done

I was not pointing the finger at Brownie. However, the facts dont seem to support the "lets cash in the sheffielders" conspiracy theory. One has already said that this area is regularly targetted by the cameras. Its convenient to blame someone else but it does not wash. Your final sentence sums it up accurately.

 

[Micalijo]

Never had one myself. Brownie who started this thread never asked for sympathy or even moaned about the potential fine/points just stated that there was a van there which lets face it wasnt just there on the off chance they knew there were hundreds of cars coming from Sheffield so they could cash in. If you do the speed then you have to accept that you may get done

Last sentence is true, but it's about far more than that - namely you lose control at 85 and crash into someone else. A £60 fine or whatever it is would be the least of your worries.

 

[SwissBlade]

Nice one Soccer Cynic! I'll rise to this.

The Police, have littered just about every road in the UK with Camera signs, which apart from diluting the impact of the other signs that matter - such as the actual speed, warnings about adverse camber, schools, pedestrian crossing etc don't do a lot.

The police obviously have to put them up so that they comply(ied) with EU law, but instead of just putting them in accident hotspots, they put them along much greater stretches of road to cover their arses ("well you can't say that you weren't warded") and to allow themselves the chance to catch more offenders by being more random.

This all misses the point entirely. The speeds themselves are no longer reflective of the capability of the vehicles on the roads. The highway code specifies stopping distances, but most modern cars can easily stop within these distances and in some cases even half the distance. Older cars are much more dangerous even if they are well within the speed limit.

As an example, I know a particular corner where my car will manage it, in the wet at 70 mph. A 1986 Seat Ibiza would do it at 40 in the dry - Well within the speed limits, but dangerously fast for that car.

I have Y rated tyres on my car, which are now rated to 190mph, I bet most people don't even know what their tyre ratings are and in some cases will have a lower rating for the load carried and I can guarantee that there are a heck of a lot of people driving within the speed limits, but with tyre treads well below the legal limit.

I've had a number of speeding tickets over the years and I take them on the chin, pay the fine and take the points, I am sure I will continue to get more over the years, just an occupational hazard

I don't believe its a case of some never learning. Its a case of some actually taking a pragmatic view and realising that the laws need to be changed. Of course they won't, its too convenient for the law to remain the same.

 

[Micalijo]

Nice one Soccer Cynic! I'll rise to this.

The Police, have littered just about every road in the UK with Camera signs, which apart from diluting the impact of the other signs that matter - such as the actual speed, warnings about adverse camber, schools, pedestrian crossing etc don't do a lot.

The police obviously have to put them up so that they comply(ied) with EU law, but instead of just putting them in accident hotspots, they put them along much greater stretches of road to cover their arses ("well you can't say that you weren't warded") and to allow themselves the chance to catch more offenders by being more random.

This all misses the point entirely. The speeds themselves are no longer reflective of the capability of the vehicles on the roads. The highway code specifies stopping distances, but most modern cars can easily stop within these distances and in some cases even half the distance. Older cars are much more dangerous even if they are well within the speed limit.

As an example, I know a particular corner where my car will manage it, in the wet at 70 mph. A 1986 Seat Ibiza would do it at 40 in the dry - Well within the speed limits, but dangerously fast for that car.

I have Y rated tyres on my car, which are now rated to 190mph, I bet most people don't even know what their tyre ratings are and in some cases will have a lower rating for the load carried and I can guarantee that there are a heck of a lot of people driving within the speed limits, but with tyre treads well below the legal limit.

I've had a number of speeding tickets over the years and I take them on the chin, pay the fine and take the points, I am sure I will continue to get more over the years, just an occupational hazard

I don't believe its a case of some never learning. Its a case of some actually taking a pragmatic view and realising that the laws need to be changed. Of course they won't, its too convenient for the law to remain the same.

I didn't think you would better your pre-season training in the heat comments for silliness but these come very close. Thank god you aren't owt to do with traffic laws.

 

[alcoblade]

Nice one Soccer Cynic! I'll rise to this.

The Police, have littered just about every road in the UK with Camera signs, which apart from diluting the impact of the other signs that matter - such as the actual speed, warnings about adverse camber, schools, pedestrian crossing etc don't do a lot.

The police obviously have to put them up so that they comply(ied) with EU law, but instead of just putting them in accident hotspots, they put them along much greater stretches of road to cover their arses ("well you can't say that you weren't warded") and to allow themselves the chance to catch more offenders by being more random.

This all misses the point entirely. The speeds themselves are no longer reflective of the capability of the vehicles on the roads. The highway code specifies stopping distances, but most modern cars can easily stop within these distances and in some cases even half the distance. Older cars are much more dangerous even if they are well within the speed limit.

As an example, I know a particular corner where my car will manage it, in the wet at 70 mph. A 1986 Seat Ibiza would do it at 40 in the dry - Well within the speed limits, but dangerously fast for that car.

I have Y rated tyres on my car, which are now rated to 190mph, I bet most people don't even know what their tyre ratings are and in some cases will have a lower rating for the load carried and I can guarantee that there are a heck of a lot of people driving within the speed limits, but with tyre treads well below the legal limit.

I've had a number of speeding tickets over the years and I take them on the chin, pay the fine and take the points, I am sure I will continue to get more over the years, just an occupational hazard

I don't believe its a case of some never learning. Its a case of some actually taking a pragmatic view and realising that the laws need to be changed. Of course they won't, its too convenient for the law to remain the same.

How would a change in the law work? Short of signs that altered as different vehicle types approached, I can't see how apparent recent advancements in technology could be factored in when there's still rust buckets like mine on the road?

As an aside, I noted the other day that your replacement tyre was worth as much as my car...

UTB

 

[SwissBlade]

Last sentence is true, but it's about far more than that - namely you lose control at 85 and crash into someone else. A £60 fine or whatever it is would be the least of your worries.

Speed is rarely the root cause of "losing control" of a vehicle. If it was then motor sport wouldn't exist.

The main root causes are

a) Driver error

b) Other road user error - drivers, drunks, kids etc

c) road conditions

Speed is often the factor to determine whether you live or die. If you lose control at 60 then you may survive but might wish you'd been killed.

Its just as easy to face a charge of reckless/ dangerous driving within/ outside the speed limits

 

[beightonblade]

as said before ...... its easy peazy to 'get off' ! ......... the beauty of our wuderfull leagal system.