Brooks could change his mind again?

[Cerberus Blade]

David Brooks eh? Called up for Wales, then rejected Wales and called up for England, and starred in the Toulon Tournament, then rejected England and called up for Wales and on the bench for their recent World Cup qualifier. Wales didn't make it of course - and Brooks didn't make his senior debut for them on the night. So, he's still free to change his mind again and go and play for another nation that are in the World Cup.

No point in choosing England, because his exciting brand of football wouldn't fit in that team at all. But maybe he's got an Irish relative that he can link back to and go play for them instead next? Alternatively, he may have relatives in his family from France, Sweden, Portugal, Switzerland, Germany, Serbia, Poland, Denmark, Slovakia, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Greece, Iceland or Croatia?

Or will he just stick with Wales now?

 

[Lazerblade]

I would love to know what exactly has happened.
Surely England have tried to coax him but as you say would he fit in.
I wonder who he takes his advice from. His parents, wilder, team mates? I can't see it being a case of Coleman rings him before Southgate, that said you never know.

 

[Gimli]

I know somebody has already explained the rules on here before but does it have to be a competitive game? If not, if I were Coleman, I'd be giving Brooks some minutes in November friendies to ensure he can't change his mind again.

 

[Rusty view]

There’s an interview with Rob Page which explains it.

Basically Brooks said he’d chose Wales. He then got the chance of going to Toulon tournament. Wales allowed him with brooks giving his word he chose Wales.

 

[raul]

This is good work by Cerberus.


All Brooks threads titles should scan to Love Will Tear Us Apart.

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

Any youth tournaments next summer?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

There’s an interview with Rob Page which explains it.

Basically Brooks said he’d chose Wales. He then got the chance of going to Toulon tournament. Wales allowed him with brooks giving his word he chose Wales.

Have you got a link to that interview? I’m not quite sure that’s what happened given Wales originally called him up for the Toulon Tournament - it wasn’t that they called him up for some random other thing that summer and England was the only opportunity to play in it.

He could switch again if he wants to. I think the chances he will are slim though.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

This is good work by Cerberus.


All Brooks threads titles should scan to Love Will Tear Us Apart.

Hmmmm. Much though I love Joy Division, I can't help feeling that Brooksy / Brooko deserves something a bit less dirgey. LWTUAA, in the throats of football fans, sounds more suited to supporting Engerland than it does an anthem for thrillsome youth ?

 

[raul]

Hmmmm. Much though I love Joy Division, I can't help feeling that Brooksy / Brooko deserves something a bit less dirgey. LWTUAA, in the throats of football fans, sounds more suited to supporting Engerland than it does an anthem for thrillsome youth ?

NO!

You're just the sort of person who gets Bond wrong.

 

[Tyler Durden]

It doesn't matter.

 

[NorthWalesBlade]

Have you got a link to that interview? I’m not quite sure that’s what happened given Wales originally called him up for the Toulon Tournament - it wasn’t that they called him up for some random other thing that summer and England was the only opportunity to play in it.

He could switch again if he wants to. I think the chances he will are slim though.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

NO!

You're just the sort of person who gets Bond wrong.

Ok. Ian Curtis it is.

"Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance to the Brooko" ?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I think he's made the right choice with Wales over England and my post is meant a bit tongue in cheek. At the present time, anything is better than England because he'll not get any game time with our national team, at least with Wales he will and who knows, one day, they might just qualify for the World Cup? I'd like to see it.

In the meantime though, I'd like to see us bring back the home nations tournament. At least we saw a bit of passion when England played Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Ta. That sounds like a case of Wales calling him up for Toulon not realising he’d already agreed to join England for it. I’d always assumed he’d just ditched Wales when the England call for that tournament came.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Would we really want Engerland's fantastic coaches to 'coach' all attacking intentions out of him ?

 

[wizadry]

He’d be bonkers to choose a nation like England whose identity evolves around being dull as fuck and would hinder his progress as an attacking nemesis, they’d turn him into a reyt boring twat style wise and that would of course hinder his progression and us.

I say all this but Wales are hardly the galacticos and I suppose it shows why I show less interest in the national sides at present. There’s only Belgium and France sometimes who I enjoy watching, the rest is pretty dull to be honest.

 

[YES Blade]

I think he's made the right choice with Wales over England and my post is meant a bit tongue in cheek. At the present time, anything is better than England because he'll not get any game time with our national team, at least with Wales he will and who knows, one day, they might just qualify for the World Cup? I'd like to see it.

In the meantime though, I'd like to see us bring back the home nations tournament. At least we saw a bit of passion when England played Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

If Brooks thought he was going to be good enough, then I've no doubt he would have chosen England, Wales qualified for a tournament for the first time in 50 odd years then it was back to the usual of watching them at home.

England get slagged off, but at least we manage to qualify for the majority of tournaments, so Brooks would have had a better chance to play in a tournament with England, however he's going to struggle to get a game when there are players in his position at a similar age already playing regularly for Champion's League clubs.

 

[YES Blade]

He’d be bonkers to choose a nation like England whose identity evolves around being dull as fuck and would hinder his progress as an attacking nemesis, they’d turn him into a reyt boring twat style wise and that would of course hinder his progression and us.

I say all this but Wales are hardly the galacticos and I suppose it shows why I show less interest in the national sides at present. There’s only Belgium and France sometimes who I enjoy watching, the rest is pretty dull to be honest.

Harry Kane is hardly struggling due to playing for England!

They spend what? 8 weeks a year on international duty including tournament football? I think what happens with their clubs has a far greater influence on a player's development.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

If Brooks thought he was going to be good enough, then I've no doubt he would have chosen England, Wales qualified for a tournament for the first time in 50 odd years then it was back to the usual of watching them at home.

England get slagged off, but at least we manage to qualify for the majority of tournaments, so Brooks would have had a better chance to play in a tournament with England, however he's going to struggle to get a game when there are players in his position at a similar age already playing regularly for Champion's League clubs.

Rashford aside (and that's only because of who he plays for), how many young players get a chance in the senior squad or have progressed out of the U-21s in the last 20, 30 years ?

Our younger squads have done really well in the last 12 months yet we all know the world cup squad won't contain any of them, they'd rather go with the likes of Livermore.

 

[Bladepicker]

Would we really want Engerland's fantastic coaches to 'coach' all attacking intentions out of him ?

I never understand this with international sport in England - where individuals have done sport their way so well it has got them into the top 0.1 percent and a call up to represent their country. At which point the international coaches try to change them.

Happens throughoit sport. Cricket one of the worst - they nearly wrecked Jimmy Anderson as an example. Really winds me up.

 

[BushBlade]

Rashford aside (and that's only because of who he plays for), how many young players get a chance in the senior squad or have progressed out of the U-21s in the last 20, 30 years ?

Our younger squads have done really well in the last 12 months yet we all know the world cup squad won't contain any of them, they'd rather go with the likes of Livermore.

Kane, Alli, Sterling have all played at every level from U-17s to U-21s. I think a few more have too but I can't be bothered to check, like Walcott, Sturridge, Wilshere and we know Walker played for U-19s and U-21s.
And Winks has played at all the levels but a few people questioned his call up.

 

[YES Blade]

Rashford aside (and that's only because of who he plays for), how many young players get a chance in the senior squad or have progressed out of the U-21s in the last 20, 30 years ?

Our younger squads have done really well in the last 12 months yet we all know the world cup squad won't contain any of them, they'd rather go with the likes of Livermore.

The last squad contained loads of players who have played under 21 football, if anything we now have a manager who would be willing to give the younger players a chance given that he coached them in the under 21s.

Seriously, look at the last squad, the vast majority have played a decent amount of under 21 football.

 

[dazzlingblade]

he will discover a costa rican grandparent just in time for the world cup

 

[Rusty view]

Have you got a link to that interview? I’m not quite sure that’s what happened given Wales originally called him up for the Toulon Tournament - it wasn’t that they called him up for some random other thing that summer and England was the only opportunity to play in it.

He could switch again if he wants to. I think the chances he will are slim though.

I’ve had had search but can’t find it. Think it was on Twitter

 

[Rusty view]

Check out @sgorio’s Tweet:

 

[wizadry]

Harry Kane is hardly struggling due to playing for England!

They spend what? 8 weeks a year on international duty including tournament football? I think what happens with their clubs has a far greater influence on a player's development.

Fair enough. Harry Kane is one of the few players who when he plays for England can mentally block the shite service he gets for England out of his mind for when he returns to Spurs to keep playing consistently well for them. Kane hardly touched the ball for England in those last two matches.

I admit a lot of players play better for their clubs than they do for their country and that is down to the point you make which sort of illustrates my point saying that Brooks shouldn’t bother playing for England with overpaid and overhyped players when he can carry on starring for us whilst at the same time getting a real crack at it with Wales.

If I was the England manager I’d have picked him already just to make sure he couldn’t play for Wales but we’ve even failed there. That’s me though but Brooks has made his decision now due to the lack of being proactive in the England camp.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I never understand this with international sport in England - where individuals have done sport their way so well it has got them into the top 0.1 percent and a call up to represent their country. At which point the international coaches try to change them.

Happens throughoit sport. Cricket one of the worst - they nearly wrecked Jimmy Anderson as an example. Really winds me up.

Yep, simple example last week, Rashford plays really well for Man Ure on the left, Southgate plays him on the right.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Kane, Alli, Sterling have all played at every level from U-17s to U-21s. I think a few more have too but I can't be bothered to check, like Walcott, Sturridge, Wilshere and we know Walker played for U-19s and U-21s.
And Winks has played at all the levels but a few people questioned his call up.

Yeah, they have, my point is for every Kane, there's a reliable journeyman type who most managers will generally pick ahead of a young prospect. There's no easy way to blood youngsters in but Germany seem to manage to pretty much replace the bulk of their team with youngsters every 10 years or so. We never seem to have a period where we say, OK, let's weed out the dead wood and build for the next world cup in 4 years time. Most recent managers have threatened to do it but then reverted to type.

We all know they'll be loads of changes in the forthcoming friendlies, such as Winks but he's next to no chance of making the squad for next Summer unless there's a few injuries.

 

[wizadry]

Henderson and Dier playing the defensive midfield duo role instead of Lampard and Gerrard who could actually do all the midfield job you’re supposed to like adding goals to your game, have a think of the dire straits we’re in at present as a country.

 

[Jonboy60]

While he's still with us, I can only see Wales being interested. But god forbid we get rid, especially to a top 10 club. England will be all over him like a rash.