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Tyler Durden said:
If any move from Bramall Lane happens then I think it will be the end of any association I have with the club to be honest.
The notion of our home being destroyed is as sacrilegious as merging us with the scum from S6 quite frankly.
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If we were to move to say, Shepcote Way at Tinsley, that would be a journey of an hour on public transport involving at least two buses from our neck of the woods (along a very longwinded route) and from my house, would be approximately 6 miles by car.

In comparison, Chesterfield is 8 miles away but only one half hour bus journey. Of course, I'd rather not bother, but it would be a consideration.

And if Sheffield FC did ever move to Olive Grove, there would be a ready-made replacement.
 



Even moving across the car park would be absolutely my line in the sand. We're not some indentikit McDonalds where someone doesn't give a shite where it is, or some other chain. We're Sheffield United, Bramall Lane is our home, the home of those who are no longer with us and the home of all future Blades (poor buggers). Despite football today seemingly being a lot more Blue Sky, Outside the Box, Low Hanging Fruit, bastardised version of the game we grew up with, well surely to God thats something you just don't mess with?
 
- Demolish Bramall Lane and build luxury 2+3 bed apartments, or 'shag pads'
- Free shag pad for ST holders of 5 or more years
- New ground built in the heart of Graves Park
- Regeneration of nearby Woodseats/Chesterfield Rd to include road widening, 15 new real ale pubs and an exact replica of The Music Factory
- Ground to be 35k-40k capacity including rail seating and the largest, steepest single stand (Kop) in the country
- Free pint at every game

If this was the option presented...

Nah. I'd still want to keep t'Lane.
 
TomJonesBlade said:
- Demolish Bramall Lane and build luxury 2+3 bed apartments, or 'shag pads'
- Free shag pad for ST holders of 5 or more years
- New ground built in the heart of Graves Park
- Regeneration of nearby Woodseats/Chesterfield Rd to include road widening, 15 new real ale pubs and an exact replica of The Music Factory
- Ground to be 35k-40k capacity including rail seating and the largest, steepest single stand (Kop) in the country
- Free pint at every game

If this was the option presented...

Nah. I'd still want to keep t'Lane.
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You been talking to your source again TJ ? :)
 
Sean Thornton said:
I have magic beans and baby unicorns for sale!
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Two dozen of each please, I'm stocking up. When I get home I'm going to Youtube for those old Patrick Allen voiced videos about what to do if you get nuked. Our lass was less than impressed when I started taking all the interior doors off to make a rudimentary shelter. And she went positively beserk when I told her why ;)
 
I should coco said:
TomJonesBlade

It's not unusual to find that the green green grass of Graves Park is covered in dog shit.

Just sayin', like.....
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I'm still waiting for someone to get "The Young New Mexican Puppeteer" into one of these puns.
 
The back of the South Stand is an absolute mess. It should NOT be painted because paint flakes and has to be maintained & and will look twice as bad in 5 years.

Yes, it was brutalist in 1975 BUT by the time they got round to filling it underneath with shops, changing rooms bars etc. etc. it was at least a decade later and so the new canopies had silly little fake arched motifs because brutalism was no longer in style and 'post-modernism' was the in-thing....a pastiche of past styles.

So it was never all of a piece, the red&white stripes are beneath discussion, I avert my gaze when I walk down, I look at the Aston Martins, Lamborghinis and Overfinch Range-Rovers instead.

Linz and Alan Wright, if the South Stand and the sub-stations are ugly, please tell me what constitutes architectural beauty...in your eyes......? Stylistically, maybe you would compare their 'ugliness' with the 'beauty' of say ... Conisbrough Castle please.

Being an architect I feel I need to learn ...........
 
grafikhaus said:
Oh sure, it looks fucking 'orrible now, but it was quite 'cutting edge' in the 70s. Different strokes 40 years ago. Look at the cars in your image - would you want one of them now? The New Stand was a good design in its day but has been criminally cluttered over the years. The kop and John Street were still standing back then - corrugated iron cow sheds. When the SS opened for the Derby game, all our family bought season tickets (I think it was £3.50 for 'pay on the day') and you felt priviledged to be sat in such pristine splendour. Back then, seats were seen as a luxury.

Remember, back then people were smoking upstairs on buses and in pubs. People wore flares! You could pull a bird in Crazy Daisy without Operation Yewtree getting involved. :)
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I nearly shit my self there when you quoted S,S. Grafikhaus,,, I know it's been built some time now but it's not that old!!
 



PeteBlade said:
Wasn't a building in Graves Park listed in the same way but then the government just sold it anyway?

I think the general rule is that if you're rich, you can do whatever you like, whether there are rules in place or not.
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Don't think so, but I remember a few years ago, Sheffield City Council (ok, stop sniggering, I haven't finished yet!), put a building and/or some land in Graves Park up for sale, not realising (and not bothering to check) that they don't actually own it, it is owned by the Graves Park Trust.
 
Dear Grafikhouse, there was a reason I didn't design that corner, I have mentioned it before.

I was stabbed in my back, its a common injury in our trade.

What I may not have mentioned is that originally, I was working (unofficially) with one of the architects of the much lauded Mound Stand at Lords when I approached the club with a masterplan.

I daresay the façade cost a bob or two more than the crinkly tin south stand!


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Moving stadiums or moving away from bramall lane is huge no no for me & This is our stadium so much history, hertitage, memories from last 150 yrs, I would be absolutely mortified & hugely annoyed if the club would chucked all that away for money. Also why would we want to move stadiums because new built stadiums look exactly the same. Look at Swansea Southampton Coventry Leicester Hull Reading you take the seats out of any of them stadiums & you wouldn't have a clue where you were as it could be any one of those 6 or more
 
Fuck that, all the pubs are in the city centre. And lets be honest, these days you fucking need em close by.
 
Grappler said:
Don't think so, but I remember a few years ago, Sheffield City Council (ok, stop sniggering, I haven't finished yet!), put a building and/or some land in Graves Park up for sale, not realising (and not bothering to check) that they don't actually own it, it is owned by the Graves Park Trust.
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This happened with Eccesall Library.

Something like the land was a gift and they had no legal right to sell it, but they did.
 
I hate the paint on the south stand too, it looks terrible. It doesn't look great on the old photo, though i think the middle bit looks ok. It would look better if the lot was covered in something a bit more subtle than red and white paint.

As for moving, anything is possible. Can't see the point of turning the ground into flats though. Like others have said, there's already flats all over the place that nobody wants to buy. Prime location? Not really for flats. For a supermarket maybe. If we moved, it's more likely to be bought by another sports club. Maybe if some daft billionaire has the idea of turning Sheffield FC or Hallam into a league club. But if some foreign big cheese wanted to buy the club, there is the possibility they would insist on building a new stadium regardless of the costs involved. Can't see anybody who is "just investing" with McCabe having any interest in doing that though. Financially it makes no sense.
 
yer what Leonard?......... Sheaf, Sheaf House, Golden Lion, Cremorne, Crown, Royal Standard, Rutland, Dullows (or whatever its called), Cricketers, Globe, Showcase, Tap, Howard etc, (& I know a lot have shut)

For all I admire the candour and concision of your delivery........ M. Vert
 
vorpal blade said:
Yes, and they aren't usually a 9 minute walk from the station and surrounded by affordable pubs, bars, & restaurants.
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agree with that Doncaster was a nightmare. Basically a choice between greggs or a hugely expensive restaurants for something to eat pre match
 
I'd clad the infill panels with a metal panel, like zinc (stainless steel being too expensive)

OR

I would dig a border out of the tarmac and concrete right at the foot of the walls, clad the infill areas between the concrete buttresses in a mesh to form a trellis and grow Ivy or at a stretch Boston Ivy or Virginia Creeper up the wall of the stand. (I think the New World varieties are, though red, - sadly - decidious)

of course, its south facing.

Cheap and relatively low maintenance.
 
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Linz said:
If Moore Street substation is grade II listed (and that is ugly) I don't see why the South Stand shouldn't be.

In the same vein as the substation, I think the paint should be stripped and lighting should be used to colour the columns. Would look far more effective and would be seen from around Sheffield at night.

You can nominate a building here: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/apply-for-listing/
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The last thing any city needs is more light pollution.
 
vorpal blade said:
I'd clad the infill panels with a metal panel, like zinc (stainless steel being too expensive)

That's all
OR

I would dig a border out of the tarmac and concrete right at the foot of the walls, clad the infill areas between the concrete buttresses in a mesh to form a trellis and grow Ivy or at a stretch Boston Ivy or Virginia Creeper up the wall of the stand. (I think the New World varieties are, though red, - sadly - decidious)

of course, its south facing.

Cheap and relatively low maintenance.
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That's all fine but where is the water feature and decking?
 
The South Stand isn't as consistent stylistically as the Sub-station, it is compromised by insensitive later work (see above) and as brutalism goes.....its too restrained in the first place by comparison.

It would be disastrous for the club a second time if it were to be listed.

Strikes me, for all the reasons mentioned by others that the 'scare' that the club might move is complete nonsense.
 



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