blades finaly realise there loss off ...

[creswellblade79]

neil warnock

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opi...gain-David-Anderson-column-article693071.html

for those who carnt open the link

They say you never truly appreciate having something until it's gone. And that could not be more true than in the case of Neil Warncok and Sheffield United. Despite his successful eight-year reign, Warnock was routinely abused by Blades fans.
If United hadn't scored or weren't winning at Bramall Lane, they would boo at half-time and there would even be the odd "Warnock out" shout from some moron

Yet when United supporters look back on Warnock's time, they must wish he were still in charge.

I always felt when Warnock quit United in May 2007 in the aftermath of their heartbreaking relegation on the final day, the best man to replace him would have been Neil Warnock. He was gutted by United going down and was angry at West Ham, Rafa Benitez, Sir Alex Ferguson, the Premier League and just about everyone.

His contract was up that summer and United chairman Kevin McCabe was far too hasty in accepting his resignation. McCabe should have told Warnock to take at least a week to think about it rather than making such a momentous decision when he felt so low.

But he didn't. Instead he appointed Bryan Robson as manager and apart from Kevin Blackwell leading them to the play-off final in 2009, it's been downhill ever since. Rather than dreaming of a return to the Premier League, they are now fearing dropping into League One and they are four points from safety.

Appointing Micky Adams to succeed Gary Speed after he jumped ship to take over Wales seemed a curious choice at the time and apart from supporting the Blades as a kid, he had little else to offer. Adams has been unable to arrest United's slide and their plight is in stark contrast to Warnock's high-life with QPR.

Rangers are seven points clear at the top of the Championship and Warnock is well on course to gain another promotion to add to the ones he achieved with Scarborough, Notts County, Plymouth, Huddersfield and the Blades. He richly deserves his latest success and few managers can match his enthusiasm and passion for the game. He may be 62, but he looks more like 32 the way he bounces around on the touchline.
Sheffield United's loss really is QPR's gain


Utter bullshit!

 

[Yossarian]

Utter bullshit? Every word is true.

 

[alcoblade]

No, very true. The only daft bit is the comparison between Warnock and Adams at the end - like the 2 jobs could be compared.

Those who constantly barracked Warnock must be delighted that they've now got McCabe to blame - it deflects the reality that they got it spectacularly wrong themselves.

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[sheffielder]

I never abused Neil and I backed him when everyone slated him for years. It makes me angry that he seems to want to put the boot in at every oppotunity either by help from Talk Sport or the Mirror.

I have to admit 30 minutes after the Wigan game i thought it was time he should go maybe, but if we had all taken that extra week maybe things would be different.

Neil, the man who wanted to retire down in Cornwall with the kids, yet manages QPR and spends every Sunday on Talk Sport. So where does he find time for them?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Apart from the bit about Adams being a 'curious choice' then i can't fault that article.

 

[jodman]

I take your point but successful managers quite often talk about retiring "in a few years time" but the reality is that the game is in their blood and very few choose to leave the game behind whilst still deemed to be good enough to be employed.

I moaned about Warnock as much as the next blade but of all the mistakes we have made since (and before) we were relegated if i could go back and rectify only one it would be to give Neil the chance to get us promoted within the first two seasons.

 

[Yossarian]

By the way, the title of this thread really annoys me. It's 8 words long, and 3 of those words are incorrectly spelled.

 

[Revolution]

The dumb move was appointing Robson, not letting Warnock go. We could have appointed dozens of managers who could have taken us up that year, or at least to the playoffs, with that squad. Hell, Blackwell could probably have done it.

Warnock is doing very well this season - good luck to him. Of course, he is better resourced than any other manager in the division. He didn't look so clever last year or the year before that when he had no money.

This would also be an opportunity to launch into a tirade including such familiar phrases "4-5-1 at home" "8 goals in 19 away games" "Money ****** away during the transfer window" but that's been done to death.

 

[Houso]

The dumb move was appointing Robson, not letting Warnock go. We could have appointed dozens of managers who could have taken us up that year, or at least to the playoffs, with that squad. Hell, Blackwell could probably have done it.

Warnock is doing very well this season - good luck to him. Of course, he is better resourced than any other manager in the division. He didn't look so clever last year or the year before that when he had no money.

Agree with the bold bit.

Agreeing to Neil leaving and appointing Robson was McCabe's biggest ever error. His second biggest ever error was giving the latter so much cash. And this third biggest error was the appointment that followed.

Warnock with the funds allowed to Robson would have cantered this league (as he's doing now with less cash to spend).

 

[j j]

Warncok? Apart from that, it reads like he wrote it himself. Why is this in a newspaper in 2011? The Daily Hindsight?

 

[Revolution]

Warnock with the funds allowed to Robson would have cantered this league (as he's doing now with less cash to spend).

One thing that is interesting about this season is that it's not the first time Warnock has had a lot of money to spend on either wages or transfers, but it's arguably the first time he's spent it well. Certainly your statement that he would have cantered the league with that funding sits uneasily with the vast sums he wasted between January 2006 and January 2007.

 

[creswellblade79]

Carnt help but wonder if we,d be saying the same thing if we were in a better position then what we are in.

In my opinion hes a championship manager at best and had done all he could do with united he must have felt the same or he wouldnt have offered his resigination. Too leave youre supposedly dream job at a club just relegated from the prem with parachute payments available too build a bigger better squad is just stupid and the guy now sees fit too boot us in the mouth every chance he gets for his own mistake. Good riddence too the tit

 

[Yossarian]

It was probably the gobby actor bursting into his office and abusing his family that did it creswell.

 

[Revolution]

I will never understand why newspapers continue to state Warnock resigned, when what actually happened is his contract was not extended. There was nothing to resign from. Actually, it is understandable - Warnock probably tells them he quit.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

There are a few things I blame for SUFC's plight but Warnock's departure is not one of them.

Interesting article but it really only skims over the full details of how we came to be where we are.

 

[creswellblade79]

It was probably the gobby actor bursting into his office and abusing his family that did it creswell.

Hardly a reason to quit

 

[Micalijo]

Carnt help but wonder if we,d be saying the same thing if we were in a better position then what we are in.

In my opinion hes a championship manager at best and had done all he could do with united he must have felt the same or he wouldnt have offered his resigination. Too leave youre supposedly dream job at a club just relegated from the prem with parachute payments available too build a bigger better squad is just stupid and the guy now sees fit too boot us in the mouth every chance he gets for his own mistake. Good riddence too the tit

Humiliating yer sen multiple times on same string is nowt to be proud of Cressie. Some would say I should know but this is getting serious for you now.

 

[creswellblade79]

just my view mr pot

 

[davidpinder]

Nothing like kicking a team when its down? We are an easy target at the moment and we all know we are not liked so there are many laughing at us hoping we go down. As for the article itself some things obviously true some a bit far fetched, Can't remember us booing every week for a start if we weren't winning at home. I think with Neils spending power and high wage budget in this league any manager would find there team at the top, you only need to look at the top 6 at the mo. We all know we look doomed at the moment but pricks writing articles like that don't help.

 

[JohnDenver]

By the way, the title of this thread really annoys me. It's 8 words long, and 3 of those words are incorrectly spelled.

In fairness, there's only one word that isn't actually a word...

As for Warnock, I expect nothing but smug bitterness from him should we go down. Probably some comments about how he was mistreated.

Excellent manager. Bit of a twat.

 

[Selly]

Excellent manager. Bit of a twat.

Nail. On. Head.

FWIW, I was actually in the Wanock Out camp once we had been relegated. Having capitulated away at Villa the week before (where lets not forget a single goal defeat would have helped immesuravbly more that the 3-0 tonking we got) the inevitable I just couldn`t see how he could stay.

Unfortunatley whilst Warnock leaving was areguably not the right decision (I'm still 50/50 as to whether we should have got rid of hime, on the basis of is record and our up to that point), the appointment of Robson killed the club. End Of.

That was the catastrophic mistake in May 2007, not the decsion to let Warnock walk out.

 

[Ted Danson]

I'm sure Warnock would have taken us straight back up and there were a lot of fickle fans who were booing him before we got promoted, the last game of the season the season before we went up there were lots of people who stayed behind to boo the team off.

Letting go of Warnock was a big mistake but appointing Robson was what destroyed the club

oh and there's no 'r' in cant Cressy!

 

[Worksop II]

Warnock wants to concentrate on making sure his current employers dont take too close a look at his Top Division record.

Roy Hodgson to QPR in June

 

[Russ]

Does it really matter about all these spelling mistakes and bad punctuation etc.?

What matters is us all roaring United to their next victory. No matter how bad we are playing, we are all still blades fans so lets get behind the team and the manager for the rest of the season.

p.s. I am suprised anyone buys the Daily Mirror.

 

[raul]

I'm sure Warnock would have taken us straight back up and there were a lot of fickle fans who were booing him before we got promoted, the last game of the season the season before we went up there were lots of people who stayed behind to boo the team off.

Letting go of Warnock was a big mistake but appointing Robson was what destroyed the club

oh and there's no 'r' in cant Cressy!

You could argue that it was those same SCF's who, by their actions, got NW to be more demanding of KM as that was the first summer he let loose the purse strings and actually gave NW the tools to do the job. For me, it was the day he stopped taking other peoples bullets as well as his own.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Best manager weve had since Bassett and Id have him back tomorrow.

 

[creswellblade79]

love the fact that ive been pulled up on my spelling 3 times in one thread

 

[oldblade]

The dumb move was appointing Robson, not letting Warnock go. We could have appointed dozens of managers who could have taken us up that year, or at least to the playoffs, with that squad. Hell, Blackwell could probably have done it.

Warnock is doing very well this season - good luck to him. Of course, he is better resourced than any other manager in the division. He didn't look so clever last year or the year before that when he had no money.

This would also be an opportunity to launch into a tirade including such familiar phrases "4-5-1 at home" "8 goals in 19 away games" "Money ****** away during the transfer window" but that's been done to death.

I thought he did a very good job at Crystal Palace. He probably had less money to work with than he had when he first came to Bramall Lane. And yet he was keeping them well clear of relegation. If memory serves me right they were on the fringes of the play offs until they incurred their 10 point deduction.

QPR may have wealthy owners, but I suspect Warnock's net outlay there isn't particularly high.

All managers make mistakes and Warnock is no different. Yes he made some poor buys, but he also made a lot of good ones. And I don't think anyone has gone down on as high a total as 38 points since West Ham got about 42 points in 2003.

If Warnock wanted to come back, I would sign him up immediately.

 

[Selly]

Does it really matter about all these spelling mistakes and bad punctuation etc.?

Yes it does. Although I guess a saving grace is that it wasn`t written in txt spk.

You could argue that it was those same SCF's who, by their actions, got NW to be more demanding of KM as that was the first summer he let loose the purse strings and actually gave NW the tools to do the job.

Indeed, and TBH he did a pretty good job didn`t he? Ifill to name but one example.

Best manager weve had since Bassett and Id have him back tomorrow.

Ditto...

 

[Kentblade]

Agree with the bold bit.

Agreeing to Neil leaving and appointing Robson was McCabe's biggest ever error. His second biggest ever error was giving the latter so much cash. And this third biggest error was the appointment that followed.

Warnock with the funds allowed to Robson would have cantered this league (as he's doing now with less cash to spend).

The reason Robson was appointed primarily in my opinion was that being an ex England captain known throughout the world was to spear head McCabe's vision of being a global brand.It was forgotton that Venables had to bail him out at Middlesborough.The off field development taking precedence over the football activity.
The majority of Blades fans were not in favour of the appointment as far as I can tell.
It is history as to what happened,which was the start of our decline, accompanied by the economic problems starting around then,our chairman being in property,his empire declining due to world wide problems, panic set in Beattie sold and the decline started and continues ever since.
Where will it end?
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