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http://www.punchtaverns.com/extrafiles/bespokeweb/punch1/all_punch_pubs.asp

Our hosts local up for sale.
S2 consortium look to buy it outright?
I have a very big inside track with the freeholders.
Buy it,rename it? Yes it's currently up on ,lease,but a good offer with this company should seal a freehold purchase.
The Railway has finally reborn with Bradfields infusion.
This place has MASSIVE Blade possibility.
 



Can't seem to link to it directly but if you do a search for Sheffield it's the Old Crown on London Rd

"There’s a good choice of different trading areas which enable the pub to cater for a large crowd – this is especially important when there’s a live band playing on a Friday and Saturday, or when Sheffield Utd are playing at home (the club’s 33,000-capacity Bramhall Lane is just down the road)

http://www.punchtaverns.com/property_images/2880/caldes_pdf_2880.pdf

Golden Lion also up for sale
 
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seanbeenstattoo said:
http://www.punchtaverns.com/extrafiles/bespokeweb/punch1/all_punch_pubs.asp

Our hosts local up for sale.
S2 consortium look to buy it outright?
I have a very big inside track with the freeholders.
Buy it,rename it? Yes it's currently up on ,lease,but a good offer with this company should seal a freehold purchase.
The Railway has finally reborn with Bradfields infusion.
This place has MASSIVE Blade possibility.
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Not on lease it doesnt. Zero trade apart from footie.
 
Given the community around London Rd, there's not much call for traditional pubs any more. I've not been in the Crown for years. I'd be more likely to go into a "Blades pub" if they showed eg the full 90 minutes of our last game on TV, streamed from Blades Player or maybe showed other games involving our rivals too. All these games are available online, though I doubt pubs would have the right to show them.
 
Dkc said:
Given the community around London Rd, there's not much call for traditional pubs any more.
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Agree, but you can still make a good go of it. Clubhouse and Cremourne are either side of the Old Crown and they do just fine. Cremourne can get especially packed of an evening.

Can't be much more than two years since Old Lion had its refurb, and it looks fantastic compared to how it used to. Shame it's for sale. Someone's lost a lot of dosh there.
 
seanbeenstattoo said:
http://www.punchtaverns.com/extrafiles/bespokeweb/punch1/all_punch_pubs.asp

Our hosts local up for sale.
S2 consortium look to buy it outright?
I have a very big inside track with the freeholders.
Buy it,rename it? Yes it's currently up on ,lease,but a good offer with this company should seal a freehold purchase.
The Railway has finally reborn with Bradfields infusion.
This place has MASSIVE Blade possibility.
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Call me a huge cynic but a post made at 12.40am asking for money to buy a pub? Just send me your bank account details and my Nigerian General uncle will send you $10m.

It's a pub, the market has never been more on its arse. No thanks.
 
Total barrels delivered down from 292 to 164 in under two years?

I'm sure the right person could do a great job if they could buy it a rock bottom price and not be tied in to the brewery...it would need to be re-cast as a music or food or summat pub to get people down there mid-week though.
 
I'll throw a fiver in for a lifetime free beer + pizza season card. Deal?
 
Esablade said:
Total barrels delivered down from 292 to 164 in under two years?

I'm sure the right person could do a great job if they could buy it a rock bottom price and not be tied in to the brewery...it would need to be re-cast as a music or food or summat pub to get people down there mid-week though.
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The landlord of my ex-local reckoned that the only way to make money out of pubs was to buy without tie. He was living proof of that, having bought several, turned them round and sold them on, usually to breweries who thought they could do it better. In one case he doubled his money, then bought the same pub back at the original price after the brewery ruined it in about two years.

I notice that The Golden Lion is close to Bramhall Lane......
 
Trigger Blade said:
I notice that The Golden Lion is close to Bramhall Lane......
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Isn't it mainly students (who want to buy a pint for £1) and Muslims (most of whom don't drink, at least not publicly) in that area? I've never been in the Golden Lion on a non-matchday, but I'd imagine it's dead?
 
So is this thread about The Old Crown or The Golden Lion? Thought the Crown had only just been taken over by Reet Ale?
 
The thread is about The Golden Lion,although The Old Crown is also on the market. I made it clear the way forward with it would be a freehold purchase. I have 25 years experience of leasing pubs and wouldn't have another given me,although they are pretty much free entry these days such is the dead maket brought about largely by the greed of the pubcos. The Golden Lion would do well as a freehold real ale outlet,as pretty much all pubs bought out do. I used to buy 9's of real ale for £35 plus vat from a Rotherham based wholesaler which cost over £100 through the tie with Pinch Taverns.
The only future for pubs is freehold or the large managed estates like Wetherspoons and M & B. Sam Smiths does a great job as a brewery owned managed estate as well.
 
http://www.punchtaverns.com/property_images/1912/caldes_pdf_1912.pdf

The Lion had real ales on (well... Doom Bar and Moonshine) but these didn't last under the last management who binned them off. Probably too much effort to keep it properly. It's gone downhill since Lee left for the Barrel.

There's no trade beyond match days and there's barely that on matchdays any more with the temporary management in, who appear to not reach too deeply into the pocket of fucks given and come up wanting. Dirty glasses, barely cleaned lines and an interesting attitude to customer service. If it weren't so easy a place to meet, we'd have moved on long since.

http://www.punchtaverns.com/property_images/2880/caldes_pdf_2880.pdf

The Old Crown was owned by the same landlord as the Albion, who chose to give up the Crown as a tied pub to concentrate on the free house Albion. Again, trade through the week is non-existent.
 
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As all have said, only way forward is to be free of tie, and buy your beers on the open market, or make your own, like the Fox and Duck.
 
I wouldn't give punch taverns a single penny of my cash. Robbng bastards!
 
ashsufc1889 said:
I wouldn't give punch taverns a single penny of my cash. Robbng bastards!
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Agree completely. However if those pennys secure the freehold then Pinch Taverns are an irrelevance thereafter and those involved in the business going forward would have a viable business.
 
ashsufc1889 said:
I wouldn't give punch taverns a single penny of my cash. Robbng bastards!
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I worked for a company that supplied equipment to pubs and I worked closely with Punch Taverns in Burton on Trent in the late 90's when they initially had a dozen Bass pubs? I felt a bit sorry for them actually, the new kids on the block trying to earn a crust up against the likes of Aliied, Bass and Whitbred

Tell you what though, my sympathy was misguided. As bad as I thought the big Brewers were treating their tenants, these two-hats eventually took it to a whole new low. We lost some fantastic landlords because of them, including here in South Yorkshire.
 
GrayBlade said:
I worked for a company that supplied equipment to pubs and I worked closely with Punch Taverns in Burton on Trent in the late 90's when they initially had a dozen Bass pubs? I felt a bit sorry for them actually, the new kids on the block trying to earn a crust up against the likes of Aliied, Bass and Whitbred

Tell you what though, my sympathy was misguided. As bad as I thought the big Brewers were treating their tenants, these two-hats eventually took it to a whole new low. We lost some fantastic landlords because of them, including here in South Yorkshire.
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I've a couple family members that were first hand victims of the greed on Punch.
One of the pubs still opens/closes/opens almost on a monthly basis.
 



So does anyone know what happened to The Crown and Reet Ale Pubs (them that run The Rutland, Closed Shop, Punchbowl and Three Tuns) if it's already back on the market? It's still showing as one of their pubs on their website. Surely not given up on it already thought it only reopened a few months ago. I'd not got round to going in again yet (which I guess doesn't help a pub business, people going "Yea I'll give it a try sometime" then not getting round to it).
 
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