Blackwell Back Him or Sack Him

[bricktop]

I think this thread is pathetic, and some of the people who are trying to stir up trouble against Blackwell are pathetic.

Football is a results based business, and at the moment the results whilst not astounding are more than acceptable at the moment. Blackwell has steadily improved the side since he has been here, in often trying circumstances, and more than that he is trying to build a side rather than buying instant success.

I suggest if people want Blackwell to go now, and for us to be a club that changes manager every 6 months then Newcastle Utd is the team for you.

I find it astounding that after 3 games of the season, where we are still unbeaten in the league, have conceded 1 goal so far and still have a hell of a lot to play for, people are asking if Blackwell should be sacked, but then again empty vessels make the loudest noise

 

[yuley82]

Alot of people are saying we finished here and nearly got there nearly got this but just missed out, which all points to failure, finishing third means naff all if you don't get promoted you may aswell have finished 10th. As manager he's failed what he was asked to do and thats gain promotion, i'm not sayin sack him i just hate the style of football he makes us play and the fact he never has a plan B and all his subs are just like for like, there never made to change our formation or style. But wins are wins!!

 

[bricktop]

Alot of people are saying we finished here and nearly got there nearly got this but just missed out, which all points to failure, finishing third means naff all if you don't get promoted you may aswell have finished 10th. As manager he's failed what he was asked to do and thats gain promotion, i'm not sayin sack him i just hate the style of football he makes us play and the fact he never has a plan B and all his subs are just like for like, there never made to change our formation or style. But wins are wins!!

So you are saying that getting a manager in who plays wishy washy football, doesn't motivate the players and finishes 19th, is the same as a manager who plays direct football, motivates his players and twice takes his team to within 90 minutes of the premiership but doesn't get promoted?

 

[yuley82]

So you are saying that getting a manager in who plays wishy washy football, doesn't motivate the players and finishes 19th, is the same as a manager who plays direct football, motivates his players and twice takes his team to within 90 minutes of the premiership but doesn't get promoted?

wishy washy football???????? What i'm sayin is we failed to acheive what we set out to do which was gain promotion so he failed, secondly most teams play direct football in the lower leagues, you'd be hard prest to find a team that doesn't, as for sayin a manager motivates his players more because he finished higher up the table than the team that finished below them is wrong, they probably finished higher because they've got better players and more finances available.

 

[Mad Mick]

Have to say back him. He's done very well in the last couple of seasons. The football aint always lovely, but it is a means to an end. Just look at our away record last season. Our neighbours would kill to have finished in the positions we have in the last 2 seasons.

 

[bricktop]

So what the manager does, does not come in to the equation and the final league position is more down to has the best players and most money?

 

[Foxy]

Alot of people are saying we finished here and nearly got there nearly got this but just missed out, which all points to failure, finishing third means naff all if you don't get promoted you may aswell have finished 10th. As manager he's failed what he was asked to do and thats gain promotion, i'm not sayin sack him i just hate the style of football he makes us play and the fact he never has a plan B and all his subs are just like for like, there never made to change our formation or style. But wins are wins!!

On that basis, there are very few successful managers in football.

How far do we go?

Is the manager that wins the Premiership the only successful man in english football?

 

[mickle-blade]

Completely agree with SEB. Would be stupid to sack at present.

 

[oldblade]

You can't sack him while he has steadily improved season on season.

We were getting close to a relegation scrap when he took over and then nearly reached the playoffs after an amazing run.
Last season we finished 3rd in the league, only just missing out on automatic despite our tailsman and top scorer wanting out and leaving us in January.

This year for me its promotion or bust for Blackie.

The board have backed him in the transfer market and if we are in the top 4 in January they should back him again but we must go up this season in order to improve.

I agree about being very close to being sucked into the relegation struggle before he took over. I think that had Robson remained in charge we would have gone down. Probably in similar fashion to the traumatic 1980-1 relegation. We were never in a relegation place at any stage that season until 4-45 PM on the last day. We simply drifted relentlessly towards disaster a little at a time.

I also don't think it's fair to sack someone who improves your league position year on year. But we have done it before. Ian Porterfield got us 2 promotons in 4 and three quarter seasons, and in each season we finished higher than the season before. But we had high expectations and at the time of his departure the football wasn't all that good to watch. A similar problem to now...................

 

[Come from away]

If I recall correctly it took Warnock 12 years to get us promotion (give or take a few). By the logic of some on here we should have had at least 12 managers, probably 24 or more if we fire every few games. Nonsense that's all.

I back Blackwell because:

1. he does take responsibility for the team, being the first to offer his resignation after failing to miss the goal of promotion;
2. he does not make excuses for the team when they do things poorly;
3. his mild criticism in the press is nothing like all players get in a pro dressing room;
4. players are not schoolboys and Quinn, for one, responded like a pro should;
5 we have been a successful club since Blackwell arrived - long may it continue.

UTB!!!

 

[oldblade]

If I recall correctly it took Warnock 12 years to get us promotion (give or take a few). By the logic of some on here we should have had at least 12 managers, probably 24 or more if we fire every few games. Nonsense that's all.

I back Blackwell because:

1. he does take responsibility for the team, being the first to offer his resignation after failing to miss the goal of promotion;
2. he does not make excuses for the team when they do things poorly;
3. his mild criticism in the press is nothing like all players get in a pro dressing room;
4. players are not schoolboys and Quinn, for one, responded like a pro should;
5 we have been a successful club since Blackwell arrived - long may it continue.

UTB!!!

Warnock had been in manager for five and a half seasons before the promotion season.

 

[The One]

Back him for now.

 

[Lt. J Dangle]

Since Kevin Blackwell arrived, how many games have we won?
How many drawn?
How many defeats?
I can't be arsed to check it out but I'd guess that out of about 70 competitive games in charge we have lost about 18.
Yeah, sack him. He obviously hasn't got a clue.
Some fans aren't satisfied unless the atmosphere is poxy at Bramall Lane. If we signed Steven Gerrard some fans would moan that we ought to have gone for Kaka.

 

[Linz]

If we signed Steven Gerrard some fans would moan that we ought to have gone for Kaka.

To be fair though, Stevie G (MBE) is a twat I'd moan we didn't go for Messi if we were paying Mr Gerard's wages!

EDIT: I'm liking all the votes by the way... 170 at the time of writing.

 

[bladesk1]

Took over with the club hovering dangerously close to a relegation place, ended that season almost getting into the play-offs.

Next season, just miss automatic promotion and lose in the play-off final.

With my recruitment responsibilities at work, if I sacked somebody after that sort of improved performance, my directors would be outside my office door with MY P45 quicker than Usain Bolt!

He's earned the right to have a go at getting promotion this season. If it is failing badly by December, by all means review the situation. If at the end of the season we have not been promoted, again review things and maybe opt for a cha nge. But at this point, it would be just plain daft!

BANG ON South Essex Blade:thumbup:

 

[yuley82]

On that basis, there are very few successful managers in football.

How far do we go?

Is the manager that wins the Premiership the only successful man in english football?

NO no and no, a succsesful manager is one that acheives things in football at what ever level they manage at be it prem championship league 1 2 or non league sunday football whatever, silverware and promotions are signs of succsess or qualifying for europe for the teams less likely to win a league title. Blackwell has no silverware or promotions to show for two teams that should have got promoted, us and weeds, i think he's an average manager myself.. But until were sat mid table and shipping goals or losing games then he has to stay.

 

[La_Blade]

Got to back him, even if our football isn't really cracking but the table doesn't lie. Even if the consesus was to get rid look how long it took the board to act to get rid of Robbo, and he was far worse than Blackie. I'm afraid love him or hate him Blackie is here for a while yet, I think it'll do him good to brak the hoodoo that Laws has over him this season fingers crossed.

 

[Iceblade]

Got to back him. The changes in the squad since he took over has been good. Saving a relegation season to almost making the play-offs. 3rd place and losing the play-off final. Sure, it was no fun walking out of Wembley, but I believe we can do better this season.

It takes time to put a team together. You might strike lucky one season and get promoted, win a cup or get into Europe, but all player purchases in the world can't save a lucky team over a couple of seasons. We want to build a strong team over time. Like Moyes have done at Everton and Ferguson at Manchester United. How close were they to getting sacked in their early stages of the management? And where would they have been if they've entered the sacking race.

I wonder who the out brigade would have in charge instead. A proven silverware manager? Who??? Come up with the man you want in charge instead and why and just wait to get slagged off by others who doesn't rate said manager. We never get satisfied, but don't write off Blackie as long as we are going forward as a club and team. Support is needed. I think Blackie will probably resign if we don't move forwards and upwards this season, a man who offers his posistion after losing a play-off final sure has the right feelings for the club. Something the previous manager didn't have at all.

 

[Bladesway]

Sack him? Are you for real? I am at a loss to explain what happened to our wonderful support of yesteryear when we were pleased to watch and pleased to support.

Things changed but it was before we went into the Premiership. I think things shifted in 2002/3 when we made 2 semi finals and the play off final. Previously we would have sat back ultimately disappointed but said "what a season that was". Instead we have suddenly decided we deserve to win every week and should steamroller sides 3 and 4.

I wrote elsewhere recently about our club, chairman and manager. I would be happy to repeat it here as an opinion. Its wordy, (as are most of my posts unfortunately) but I will post it when I have bedded in.

Just can't believe anyone would want Blackwell out and/or McCabe out. The former is doing a decent job and the latter is the best thing that ever happened to our club.

 

[Willie Carlin]

Keep him for me. Can't see what the fuss is about Blackwell, he's got the best record of any Sheff Utd manager ever, end off.

 

[jacknat]

i've said it to beighton.....now i'll repeat myself here

please re-assess original question

best start for four years.....lets sack him