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Am I right in thinking all three out of contract in June? New contracts? I certainly would and hope the club are addressing it as I'm sure CW would be interested in maybe a couple in January.
Thoughts folks...
 



Am I right in thinking all three out of contract in June? New contracts? I certainly would and hope the club are addressing it as I'm sure CW would be interested in maybe a couple in January.
Thoughts folks...
Bash and Billy 2 year contract
Didsy 1 year
 
The North East connection at Boro concerns me. Bash might be considering a move home.
We really could do with him staying though let’s have a few more years out of him then he can finish off with Hartlepool or Gateshead
 
Let's see how they're playing come the end of the season. If it similar standards to now, if they'll take a significant reduction in wages then I'd maybe offer another year. See if any of them are interested/suited to coaching, maybe and work something.

They'll all be on much higher wages than we'll want, or should be, paying.
 
So you haven’t noticed their fitness levels regardless of there age ?
I think the main risk is injury/ recovery time. By all accounts Guedioura was super fit but he's now out for a long time with injury.

Didzy looks like he's already back on the treatment table and he only just came back from injury not so long ago.
 
2 year deals? Are you nuts?

We have one of the oldest squads in the league and you want to hand out 2 year contracts.

They have been great servants over the years but we can't have room for sentiment.

Agree….also these players only need to have a spell of 3 or 4 poor games then all of a sudden according to this forum all 3 will be past it and crap.
Also the finger of incompetence will point towards the board, being so stupid to give older players on the slide long contracts.

It’s amazing how when players are in their final year of their contract they suddenly find form
….then when they are given a longish contract then their form goes down hill.
So there is a benefit in holding fire regards dishing out contracts.
 
If properly looked after we could easily get 2 more years out of each of the 3, Bash was or is supposed to be the fittest player at the club, Billy is still in the best shape of his career (have a look at some old pics), and Didsy can play longer than Moose. Billy & Didsy might struggle with 3 games in 7 days but used correctly will both be big assets, especially in this division
 



Honestly. Some of the ageist bullshit bandied about on here beggars belief. 3 of our most important, most reliable and most effective players we have on the books and some of you would put them out to pasture.

They all DESERVE new extended deals and for the life of me i can’t understand what the club is fannying about at.

Are we broke ????

UTB
 
^Yes we are broke. I agree with robbiez666. Look again in summer, but you can bet the board will only renew if they are all starting and playing well, for one more year at reduced wages.
This is an opinion, not an argument. :)
 
I wouldn’t want to be the recruitment guy given the task of finding replacements of equal ability to those three at anything like the money we can afford , both in transfer fees and wages .

That being the case and the fact their natural replacements from the players already on our books would be Mousset / McBurnie , Robinson and Freeman , I think we might be well advised to think long and hard before turning any of them out to pasture .

Sir Alex played Teddy Sheringham in the Premier League at age 40 , not because he was the fastest or fittest player around but the fact that he was a very good footballer still capable of doing what he was best at , and the same applies to our three heroes .
 
Honestly. Some of the ageist bullshit bandied about on here beggars belief. 3 of our most important, most reliable and most effective players we have on the books and some of you would put them out to pasture.

They all DESERVE new extended deals and for the life of me i can’t understand what the club is fannying about at.

Are we broke ????

UTB
Yes
 
These 3 players have +100 years together, but they still are ones giving all they got in every game they play.
While these players deserve every applause from their actions it makes one think: if 3 senior players are the best looking ones in team, should we do something with rest of the squad?
 
Can’t be handing out two year contracts, especially in November. Based on this season so far tho they all deserve an extension. I can see Bash leaving though
 
Very good/legendary players and icons but we cant band out top wages to players on the cusp of retirement. 1 year extensions AT MOST.
 
Honestly. Some of the ageist bullshit bandied about on here beggars belief. 3 of our most important, most reliable and most effective players we have on the books and some of you would put them out to pasture.

They all DESERVE new extended deals and for the life of me i can’t understand what the club is fannying about at.

Are we broke ????

UTB
Firstly yes we aren't overly flush.

Secondly think the concern for the most part is anything above 1 year extensions, gives unnecessary risk for the club.

Handing out longer deals than is financially prudent as a thank you for service is terrible financial management.

Cant think any player north of 33/34 etc would expect anything more than 1 year extensions

Pretty sure I've read that some clubs have a policy similar to the above in place, where you hit a certain and and no longer get 2 year deals.

I assume players are happy to stay and likely pretty settled in life, therefore why rush? They'll know where they stand.
 
All 3 are good for another 18 months. Basham potentially longer.

Sharp needs to be retained in some capacity. He looks like a future manager or coach to me.
 
Bash should get 2 years for me.
He has been the difference over the last 3 games.Unfathomable why Slav didn’t pick him for most of the season, and unthinkable to lose him, for the sake of an extra year.
`Plus his value and commitment to the team is immense.
 
Firstly yes we aren't overly flush.

Secondly think the concern for the most part is anything above 1 year extensions, gives unnecessary risk for the club.

Handing out longer deals than is financially prudent as a thank you for service is terrible financial management.

Cant think any player north of 33/34 etc would expect anything more than 1 year extensions

Pretty sure I've read that some clubs have a policy similar to the above in place, where you hit a certain and and no longer get 2 year deals.

I assume players are happy to stay and likely pretty settled in life, therefore why rush? They'll know where they stand.
Then 1 year extensions it is. As a starting point minimum.

The silence on the subject of player retention is deafening. Players at the end of deals will, not surprisingly, start to agitate that the club isn’t interested. Which may well be the case.

But for the RIGHT reasons ???

That’s an entirely different question !!

UTB
 
2 year deals? Are you nuts?

We have one of the oldest squads in the league and you want to hand out 2 year contracts.

They have been great servants over the years but we can't have room for sentiment.
I actually think we have the oldest squad, however, I don’t buy the narrative that a old squad is always a bad thing, Fulham and WBA also have very old squads.

It currently looks like we will be in the Championship for the foreseeable future but an ageing Billy Sharp is better than most strikers in the league.

It’s players like Guédioura, the oldest squad player at 36, who are a waste of resources.

I believe we have to stick with the younger players like Brewster/Mcburnie but Sharp/Mcgoldrick will be hard to replace. Them 4 alone should be sufficient for a Championship squad. Get rid of Burke and Mousset.

On Basham, I think he will get offered a longer contract elsewhere. Personally I would be sad to see him go.

I have little to no faith we will replace any of the 3 with better, going off previous recruitment.
 
I'm glad that some of you lot are not negotiating the clubs contracts.

I'm not against giving them extensions, just not for 2 years. Maybe 1 year with an option for another year applied. That's all.

At some point these players will need to be replaced. And at some point Brewster and DJ will need regular first team football, or they will leave.

You can't hold back your younger players forever.
 
Am I right in thinking all three out of contract in June? New contracts? I certainly would and hope the club are addressing it as I'm sure CW would be interested in maybe a couple in January.
Thoughts folks...
After bringing Bash back in defence we look a different team , the bloke makes such a difference .So whats the delay in giving him a contract before Mr Wilder comes knocking on our door.
 



Honestly. Some of the ageist bullshit bandied about on here beggars belief. 3 of our most important, most reliable and most effective players we have on the books and some of you would put them out to pasture.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I would have thought you'd remember Porterfield's Buspass Blades.

Budgie, Thompson, Houston, McNought, Withe hardly made for the most mobile team.

I agree all three are currently fit and in form but the recent example of Dean Hammond should set the alarm bells ringing. A bloke who'd won promotions and been a regular for Southampton and Leicester, suddenly found his legs had gone overnight.
 

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