Big Time Charlies!

[shorehamview]

I said that if you don't want to go then don't go. I didn't say I took delight in the "poisonous atmosphere" surrounding United. In fact, I can't bear it. I hate what's happened to us, and I think it'll be a long time before we get things right. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't take delight in it being shit, and I don't blame other fans for it being shit. I do get sick of those who blame other normal fans for it being shit, and the more that they say it the more annoying it gets.

If you don't want to go to Bramall Lane anymore then don't go. Don't call me and others names because we choose to carry on supporting our club, as we have done through good times and bad.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Sometimes circumstances in a persons life means they can't go as often. As I said on FB on Saturday night at the minute it's looking like our budget means a season ticket is off the agenda in March, I don't want to go into the whys etc on here. What I will say is that circumstances would've been the same if we had won every game and were due to wrap promotion up in February. So I can't go to as many games, doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on the Blades be it positive or negative. Talking to people at work who support various teams some successful some not I'm not the only person in the football supporting community who's cutting back.

I think during life peoples priotities shift due to life changes and unfortunately for me attending Blades games is not as high up on my agenda as it used to be.

So SV - can you reccomend any good places to shop ;-)

 

[Bladesway]

I said that if you don't want to go then don't go. I didn't say I took delight in the "poisonous atmosphere" surrounding United. In fact, I can't bear it. I hate what's happened to us, and I think it'll be a long time before we get things right. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't take delight in it being shit, and I don't blame other fans for it being shit. I do get sick of those who blame other normal fans for it being shit, and the more that they say it the more annoying it gets.

If you don't want to go to Bramall Lane anymore then don't go. Don't call me and others names because we choose to carry on supporting our club, as we have done through good times and bad.

Name calling : I don't and I never did. But your post makes my point exactly. You lump everyone who doesn't see it your way into the same box. I already said I don't agree with people like Mic and Metal but I don't see fit to say anyone with a "negative" view on McCabe or SUFC should "Fuck off to Meadowhall" or somesuch. You put these people akin to Pig fans. Read your post, you don't even allude to it. You are offensive to them. So chucking stones at them and calling them everything from a pig (literally) to a dog is ok? You support the club in your way and if that means being positive (I am sure I could go back and find numerous places where you contradict yourself because we all do from time to time) then thats no bad thing.

Fact is, there is no right or wrong way to support the team you love no matter how you do it (taking racism and extreme abuse as an aside). I guess the club welcomes everyones pound the same. Some of the naysayers have probably pumped the most into the club and can stand toe to toe with anyone when it comes to big blade points. I also hazard a guess most of the naysayers will be there next season in any case.

To sum up, everyones welcome to their view, unless you want to go set your own site up with your own rules you should perhaps just roll with that.

 

[shorehamview]

....Shorehams post contains enough expletives to make it objectionable to those he is calling.....

It's only got two expletives in it. "Shit" doesn't count any more, not since the Queen used it in a speech at the Greek Embassy in 1983. And perhaps it's no more offensive than being held personally accountable for all the woes of Sheffield United, as so many of us seem to be in the eyes of a few.

 

[Bladesway]

It's only got two expletives in it. "Shit" doesn't count any more, not since the Queen used it in a speech at the Greek Embassy in 1983. And perhaps it's no more offensive than being held personally accountable for all the woes of Sheffield United, as so many of us seem to be in the eyes of a few.

You mention the pigs twice, whats that?

 

[shorehamview]

Not going because of finances, work or family is one thing. I've been in that situation myself, where my job meant I had to work at weekends. I also have missed matches due to family commitments. Wanting to go and not being able to, for whatever more important reason, that's fair enough.

Offering t shirts to those who boycott home matches is quite a different thing though. I've used holidays and favours, begged and borrowed to watch United. The thought of not wanting to go has never entered my head.

 

[Flakey]

Before we all start killing each other, lets remember that we are all on the same side, and all this is caused by frustration, that the fans seem to care more than some of the players.
The problem is, is it ever going to change? To be fair to Mr McC, he like the rest of us doesn't have limitless funds, and nobody want to buy us out, so DW cannot even think of a loan player to give extra umph because we can't afford the wages.
The be all and end all is MONEY!!!!!!! and United have in my living memory always sold their best players, not to finance new players but in order to survive. It started when we sold Mick Jones to Leeds and has continued ever since, and is not likely to change until some rich Russian oligarth comes in and buys us out.
But until that time be will have a life of make do and mend.

 

[Flakey]

Before we all start killing each other, lets remember that we are all on the same side, and all this is caused by frustration, that the fans seem to care more than some of the players.
The problem is, is it ever going to change? To be fair to Mr McC, he like the rest of us doesn't have limitless funds, and nobody want to buy us out, so DW cannot even think of a loan player to give extra umph because we can't afford the wages.
The be all and end all is MONEY!!!!!!! and United have in my living memory always sold their best players, not to finance new players but in order to survive. It started when we sold Mick Jones to Leeds and has continued ever since, and is not likely to change until some rich Russian oligarth comes in and buys us out.
But until that time be will have a life of make do and mend.

 

[Flakey]

Before we all start killing each other, lets remember that we are all on the same side, and all this is caused by frustration, that the fans seem to care more than some of the players.
The problem is, is it ever going to change? To be fair to Mr McC, he like the rest of us doesn't have limitless funds, and nobody want to buy us out, so DW cannot even think of a loan player to give extra umph because we can't afford the wages.
The be all and end all is MONEY!!!!!!! and United have in my living memory always sold their best players, not to finance new players but in order to survive. It started when we sold Mick Jones to Leeds and has continued ever since, and is not likely to change until some rich Russian oligarth comes in and buys us out.
But until that time be will have a life of make do and mend.

 

[Flakey]

Sorry, computor balls up.

 

[metalblade]

I said that if you don't want to go then don't go. I didn't say I took delight in the "poisonous atmosphere" surrounding United. In fact, I can't bear it. I hate what's happened to us, and I think it'll be a long time before we get things right. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't take delight in it being shit, and I don't blame other fans for it being shit. I do get sick of those who blame other normal fans for it being shit, and the more that they say it the more annoying it gets.

If you don't want to go to Bramall Lane anymore then don't go. Don't call me and others names because we choose to carry on supporting our club, as we have done through good times and bad.

You chose to open this thread in a offensive manner then act all hurt when a few people give you a bit back, you keep going on about this "poisonous atmosphere" which is from another thread ..........................address the matter on that thread don't use it here to justify your OP. I am a bit surprised that you believe somehow that you are the injured party here more like you are reaping what you sowed.

 

[shorehamview]

No, I'm not the injured party. I'm more the not boycotting the club in a hissy fit party, really. The not taking delight in the woes of the club party. And if Mic can address the shortcomings of McCabe in multiple threads I can reply in my own, can't I? Or is that not allowed?

 

[metalblade]

No, I'm not the injured party. I'm more the not boycotting the club in a hissy fit party, really. The not taking delight in the woes of the club party. And if Mic can address the shortcomings of McCabe in multiple threads I can reply in my own, can't I? Or is that not allowed?

Start as many offensive threads as you want fella just don't be surprised when someone takes you to task. I don't see where anyone has called you names on this thread but if they have like I said you reap what you sow. You can see by this sort of thread how we get Blades fighting between themselves at games, when that happens usually the manager don't have long to go, just a thought like.

 

[shorehamview]

Some people don't like it, lots did. Such is the way of things. I'll expect you to call Micalijo offensive when he posts yet another property developer thread shall I?

 

[fuerstenberger]

Here in Germany FC Koln go up and down like a bride's nighty, yet every week they sell out, 52000. Fans go and if they are losing badly by half time, many go home, but they do return next home game. At the moment they are really poor, yet still the fans come. When we played them at their place, I asked a few supporters after the game why this happens. The answers were all the same. 'We start every season full of hope and almost every season that hope is dashed.They are rubbish but they are our rubbish. They represent us'. Ring any bells?

The club I am currently working with is sinking like a stone in the second division, ( I am under 21's ). We did well last season with a manager who stressed to the players the importance of playing for the supporters. The new one is all tactics, systems and preparation. It's not working, the players are not very bright and are totally confused by the multitude of instructions before a game. They do try though.

The players mingle with the fans after the game and many vent their anger and frustration then. It's quite sad to see some of the players faces when they are vilified. It seems to me there is a need for something like that in England. There are forums here and the players do read them, trust me. They do get lifted when fans on forums sing their praises and vice versa.
We all want the Blades to do well, it would certainly help me stop feeling so depressed every Saturday. How do we best achieve that? IMO, by sticking by them ala Koln. Not fighting amongst ourselves, either with fist or Keyboard.
Every season I start full of hope and then watch it get dashed, almost always. But isn't that what makes football so great? Seriously I would hate to support MUFC or the likes.
This season the supporters here have been silent for the first 12 mins and 12 secs of every game as a protest against all seater stadiums and other things. It might be that Blades fans could stay silent for 15 mins and show the current players and leadership what it would be like without them. It really affects the players.
Sorry about the long one, but I am currently snowed in and nothing else to do.
Tschuss, bis dann.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

What gets me is when people assume that because you're not rubbing your hands with glee at the "poisonous atmosphere" then you're completely happy with what's going on. When you offer to give a free t-shirt to people who don't want to go to Bramall Lane anymore, and blame those who choose to still go for all the club's malaises.

I understand where you're coming from. Friendly word of advice though.....this sort of reaction is what those individuals are looking for. Any such comments are an attempt to get a rise out of people who perhaps have a different view. I appreciate you're not guilty of reacting often to these things but don't give them the satisfaction sv. The best response tends to be one of an upbeat or witty nature (see alco or raul for examples).

There is also a difference between those on the wind up and those who complain because they care. I can only think of one (possibly two) that fall into the first category.

 

[Micalijo]

I understand where you're coming from. Friendly word of advice though.....this sort of reaction is what those individuals are looking for. Any such comments are an attempt to get a rise out of people who perhaps have a different view. I appreciate you're not guilty of reacting often to these things but don't give them the satisfaction sv. The best response tends to be one of an upbeat or witty nature (see alco or raul for examples).

There is also a difference between those on the wind up and those who complain because they care. I can only think of one (possibly two) that fall into the first category.

My God. You think those two are witty?

 

[Micalijo]

No, I'm not the injured party. I'm more the not boycotting the club in a hissy fit party, really. The not taking delight in the woes of the club party. And if Mic can address the shortcomings of McCabe in multiple threads I can reply in my own, can't I? Or is that not allowed?

How you can call any Blades big time Charlies or claim they are over-reacting to a few bad results is just beyond me. I'll go very quietly so don't worry about that. You need to relax a bit. I can't imagine being positive about SUFC but some cracks are appearing in your sanity if you post stuff like this OP in response to some drivel from me.

Quite why you get so wound up by me letting a bit of steam off on here - never abusing anyone - is also completely beyond me? You seriously think I blame you for the demise of SUFC?

 

[Kenilworth]

It might be that Blades fans could stay silent for 15 mins and show the current players and leadership what it would be like without them.

I think that already happens, Fuersters




Agree that all seater stadia should be a thing of the past and safe standing at affordable prices may just be the ticket that those clubs outside the Premier League need to get some atmosphere back into the match day experience.

 

[fuerstenberger]

I think that already happens, Fuersters

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you Kenners.

 

[shorehamview]

You seriously think I blame you for the demise of SUFC?

Whay on earth would anyone believe that?

It makes you a clapper - the like of which I believe are destroying my beloved club.

Oh yes, that'd be why.