Best Squad since 1999 - no. 4

[Darren]

Well, the no.3 slot was as close as it was possible to be - there was a large spread of votes and in the end Quinn beat Armstrong by just one vote to enter the dream squad.

The dream squad now is as follows:

1. Paddy Kenny
2. Matt Lowton
3. Wayne Quinn

On the nightmare side, we need to have a run off as Flitcroft, Nicholson and Williams all failed to get a vote. That will be done in a seperate thread.

Now it's the turn of the no.4's and there is a few new rules:

1. I have made it a public vote: this is to get the comedians who vote for the likes of France and Nosworthy to come out of the closet. Also, I am designating people as obvious nightmare candidates. Anyone voting for them will have their vote disallowed unless they post in the thread a reasoanble justification for their vote. For no. 4 my designated nightmares are Davis and Higginbotham.

2. As before you are voting for the time the players in question wore the shirt. To help, below are the times the players wore other shirts, so you know what you are voting for:

Montgomery: wore various shirts from 2000-2003, put on the transfer list by Warnock and "demoted" to no. 17 in 2005. Got no.4 back in 2009

Short: given no 24 in the PL season 06-07, though he only played in the League Cup

Cotterill: started off as no 12 when we signed him in the second half of 07-08 and given no.11 at the start of 09-10 before we flogged him.

3. Ryan Hall is on the poll but I don't expect him to get any votes. As he has only played one game it would be a little unfair for him to then possibly enter the nightmare team. He will thus get an exemption from that team even if he gets no votes.

 

[Darren]

Bugger! I pressed the button before I put Hall in :-(

Foxy????

 

[SotonBlade]

The easiest one so far based on the candidates!

 

[Selly]

Went for Sandford.

Monty's "best" days were in the number 17 shirt, the rest don`t bear thinking about.

Darren you will attract Foxy 's attention much better if you tag him by using the @ symbol before his name

 

[Foxy]

Bugger! I pressed the button before I put Hall in :-(

Foxy????

Added.

As SellyOakBlade says, if you type @ followed by my username it'll "tag" me and send me alert, so I'll definitely see it

 

[SotonBlade]

SellyOakBlade loving the avatar!

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Frank Lampard registered on the forum this morning just to vote in this poll.

 

[Bath Blade]

Now it's the turn of the no.4's and there is a few new rules:

Please can we stop this. It really is depressing to have the utter dross that have represented us over the past fourteen years listed out. Steve Yates? Claude Davis? Nick Montgomery? It's making me forget how dire this season is.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Based on service to the club and whole hearted displays, Monty easily. Not much else to pick from there. Hall clearly hasn't had long enough to be fair to him.

 

[VespaBlade]

Please can we stop this. It really is depressing to have the utter dross that have represented us over the past fourteen years listed out. Steve Yates? Claude Davis? Nick Montgomery? It's making me forget how dire this season is.

A good thing surely then!!

 

[Guesty]

Lee Sandford for me, quality player. Cue his best years being 96-98!

 

[Revolution]

Monty should be on the nightmare list too.

 

[Guesty]

While Monty winning will annoy plenty and doesn't speak particularly well for our squads down the seasons, he is far from the worst on that list!

 

[SotonBlade]

It'll be a fight between Higginbotham and Davis for the nightmare list!

 

[IOM Blade]

Am I the only one who thinks Claude Davis wasn't too bad?

 

[Large Mendonca]

Difficult to vote as left / right backs, centre midfield, central defenders and left wingers are represented in the list........

 

[Guesty]

Am I the only one who thinks Claude Davis wasn't too bad?

He had the occasional game where nothing would get past him but he was only every 30 seconds away from a potential game costing error. A more reliable CB, even one without his physical gifts, would have seen us survive. Plus he was an unpleasant little prick.

 

[SBSP]

Monty winning? Thought this was BEST player to play in that shirt?

Or has it been changed to "Most useless headless chicken that stole a wage for years but all the retards still clapped him for trying?"

 

[Selly]

Monty winning? Thought this was BEST player to play in that shirt?

Or has it been changed to "Most useless headless chicken that stole a wage for years but all the retards still clapped him for trying?"

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is King!

 

[Darren]

Ok, Latters, you voted for Davis, please provide a justification or I will disallow the vote

 

[SBSP]

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is King!

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Good point. I would have picked Davis if he wasn't on the bad list. Always really liked him and remeber some very good games he had for us.

Sandford was the best of a bad bunch.

 

[Bath Blade]

29 votes for Monty (so far)? I thought the vote was for best player rather than most effort put in.

 

[Selly]

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Good point. I would have picked Davis if he wasn't on the bad list. Always really liked him and remeber some very good games he had for us.

Sandford was the best of a bad bunch.

It's an interesting question, is a player that has 5 really good games and 5 really bad games, a better player than one who has 2 really good, 6 average, and 2 really bad games?

 

[Latters]

Ok, Latters, you voted for Davis, please provide a justification or I will disallow the vote

Genuinely the least bad of a very bad bunch in my view.

Sandford - I was quite young when he was still playing and didn't get to many games around then, so I didn't think it right to vote for him.

I hated Steve Yates (ask raul or SBSP) - no more to say on him

Craig Short was past it when he played for us. I thought he was poor. Very slow and didn't have the ability to make up for this.

Cotterill was very much hit and miss and, in my view, more miss than hit. Too soft and went missing too often.

Higginbotham - see Craig Short but for fewer games.

Hall has played one game, but he does look decent.

Finally, Monty. Well, what is there to say about him? He was knocked off the ball easily because his balance was so poor, his positioning was bad, his technique awful and his passing woeful, all over a sustained period odd time.

I'm afraid old crazy legs Davies is the one for me. At a higher level than most of the others played, I didn't think he was half as bad as some made out. He dropped some bollocks but did have pace and strength to counter this.

Justification enough?

 

[Darren]

Genuinely the least bad of a very bad bunch in my view.

Sandford - I was quite young when he was still playing and didn't get to many games around then, so I didn't think it right to vote for him.

I hated Steve Yates (ask raul or SBSP) - no more to say on him

Craig Short was past it when he played for us. I thought he was poor. Very slow and didn't have the ability to make up for this.

Cotterill was very much hit and miss and, in my view, more miss than hit. Too soft and went missing too often.

Higginbotham - see Craig Short but for fewer games.

Hall has played one game, but he does look decent.

Finally, Monty. Well, what is there to say about him? He was knocked off the ball easily because his balance was so poor, his positioning was bad, his technique awful and his passing woeful, all over a sustained period odd time.

I'm afraid old crazy legs Davies is the one for me. At a higher level than most of the others played, I didn't think he was half as bad as some made out. He dropped some bollocks but did have pace and strength to counter this.

Justification enough?

That's fine. Your vote says in. Well done for saving Claude from the nightmare run off (and as it happens I think I was a bit harsh on him, was Yates any better? Probably as he didn't play much we have less of a memory of hm)

 

[Selly]

That's fine. Your vote says in. Well done for saving Claude from the nightmare run off (and as it happens I think I was a bit harsh on him, was Yates any better? Probably as he didn't play much we have less of a memory of hm)

Only memory of Yates? Scoring the OG for Leeds in the League Cup Game...

 

[Darren]

Only memory of Yates? Scoring the OG for Leeds in the League Cup Game...

I have a vague memory of him nearly scoring from a corner in that game at Hillsborough when we battered then and lost 2-0.

 

[ZoneManWilf]

I'm afraid old crazy legs Davies is the one for me. At a higher level than most of the others played, I didn't think he was half as bad as some made out. He dropped some bollocks but did have pace and strength to counter this.

Justification enough?

I tend to agree with that. He made the odd howler, but a lot of the time he was quite decent.

Voted for Monty though, mainly for the earlier period.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Am I the only one who thinks Claude Davis wasn't too bad?

How is your guide dog these days IOM?

 

[SBSP]

It's an interesting question, is a player that has 5 really good games and 5 really bad games, a better player than one who has 2 really good, 6 average, and 2 really bad games?

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I suppose that just really down to personal memory/opinion.

In this case for instance I remember Cotterill having flashes of brilliance then not turning up again until next month. monty just being plain terrible. Claude dropping a few but also putting in some amazing tackles he never should have made and for just being generally entertaining.

So overall in terms of a "Best Squad" I'd be more inclined to go for the memorable but inconsistant players rather than the decent steady ones.