Away support

[ScoobBlade]

before anyone has a go I'm not saying that our fans are to blame for our lacklustre performances at home but is there a connection ?. In my experience an away following is much more positive than a home support, misplaced passes are ignored and it's just 90 mins of undisputed support. At home you can here people moaning within the first few minutes. I'd be interested to know what you all think

 

[JJBlade]

No, it's nothing to do with the fans.
Over a number of years, for every game we've lost at home with negative fans we've lost half a dozen away from home with positive fans.
Negativity of the fans is a fairly recent thing in football anyway, it didn't really start until the 1980's.
Before that football fans were too thick and brainwashed to think anything negative, they'd just turn up, cheer the team on, chuck darts and bottles at each other and have a great time regardless of the result.
It still never did United any good.

 

[Rodders]

before anyone has a go I'm not saying that our fans are to blame for our lacklustre performances at home but is there a connection ?. In my experience an away following is much more positive than a home support, misplaced passes are ignored and it's just 90 mins of undisputed support. At home you can here people moaning within the first few minutes. I'd be interested to know what you all think

Given that we lose games away as well as at home, then no, there's clearly no connection.

 

[memorable]

I can see what you're all saying but it does seem to me that the players are less fearful away from home. You can't blame the supporters as anyone who has paid money has every right to say what they want but the away supporters do seem to be more supportive. I also think the players actually think more of them as well.

 

[sitwell]

Who are these idiots throwing flares ,one just missed me today and hit a guy in front burning a hole in the hood of his coat. He was sat with a young disabled Blade and a few women ,no exaggeration to say it could have caused a horrible injury. We're not Fenerbache we're Sheff Utd ,leave it out.

 

[longinthe toothblade]

before anyone has a go I'm not saying that our fans are to blame for our lacklustre performances at home but is there a connection ?. In my experience an away following is much more positive than a home support, misplaced passes are ignored and it's just 90 mins of undisputed support. At home you can here people moaning within the first few minutes. I'd be interested to know what you all think

No

 

[ScoobBlade]

I do agree with what you say and yes, if you've paid your money you have the right to support in any way you feel but I always find myself wanting to tell half our fans to shut up when we're at home but when we're away it feels like we're all in it together

 

[oldblade]

No, it's nothing to do with the fans.
Over a number of years, for every game we've lost at home with negative fans we've lost half a dozen away from home with positive fans.
Negativity of the fans is a fairly recent thing in football anyway, it didn't really start until the 1980's.
Before that football fans were too thick and brainwashed to think anything negative, they'd just turn up, cheer the team on, chuck darts and bottles at each other and have a great time regardless of the result.
It still never did United any good.

I agree that the supporters cannot be blamed for where we are in the league pyramid.

However, you might want to look at how you have argued your case, because what you've written tends to suggest the opposite.

You have used the 1980s as a sort of cut off point, saying that there wasn't really any negativity amongst supporters until then. Well that has coincided with our poorest sequence of league positions and our leanest time in terms of top flight football. Only 5 seasons in the top division in the last 35 years, compared with 18 top flight seasons in the 35 seasons before 1980.

Also, only one season below the second division prior to 1980 (and that was in 1979-80), compared with 9 since 1980.

The facts show that we were actually far, far more successful in the pre 1980 'non-negative' years than the post 1980 'negative' years.

 

[Small Mendonca]

No, we won today because there was no negativity in tactics. We went for it, showed passion and determination and pressed them for 90 minutes. That is why we won.

 

[memorable]

I do agree with what you say and yes, if you've paid your money you have the right to support in any way you feel but I always find myself wanting to tell half our fans to shut up when we're at home but when we're away it feels like we're all in it together

This is what I was trying to say! I agree with this 100%

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I agree with you scoob. A big difference all round.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

No, it's nothing to do with the fans.
Over a number of years, for every game we've lost at home with negative fans we've lost half a dozen away from home with positive fans.
Negativity of the fans is a fairly recent thing in football anyway, it didn't really start until the 1980's.
Before that football fans were too thick and brainwashed to think anything negative, they'd just turn up, cheer the team on, chuck darts and bottles at each other and have a great time regardless of the result.
It still never did United any good.

I don't think is has anything to dot with that, and I doubt fans knew anything less about the game back then, it just a different culture/society nowadays. Instant gratification / if I don't get what I want I'm going to throw a fit mentality.

And for the record, why do some of our fans think its a bad thing to "cheer the team on". This notion that if the team aren't winning then fans aren't supposed keep cheering them on is bullshit. That's the whole point of "supporting" someone or something, its pretty much the meaning of the word, you back them when the going gets tough.

 

[bornablade]

It's about territory and tribal mentality. Go away from home and there's a pride in being a Blade and showing our colors in songs and chants on the opposition turf in front of our opponents.

At BDTBL, in this division it's difficult to mark out our territory when we are facing about 200 visiting supporters. A full away end can help create the atmosphere in the rest of the stadium.

I realize they were cup matches but the Charlton and Forest matches last season with a full Bramall Lane end helped the Blades. We were all fired up ready to get behind the team.

The irony is the smaller the club we face at home gives them a greater chance of keeping the home fans quiet and eventually some home fans then turning on the team.

 

[Lane Ender]

No, we won today because there was no negativity in tactics. We went for it, showed passion and determination and pressed them for 90 minutes. That is why we won.

Same as against Scunny
Wonder what will happen against Donny
Don't let's have another Crewe
Let me have full week with a smile on my face

 

[grafikhaus]

It's about territory and tribal mentality. Go away from home and there's a pride in being a Blade and showing our colors in songs and chants on the opposition turf in front of our opponents.

At BDTBL, in this division it's difficult to mark out our territory when we are facing about 200 visiting supporters. A full away end can help create the atmosphere in the rest of the stadium.

I realize they were cup matches but the Charlton and Forest matches last season with a full Bramall Lane end helped the Blades. We were all fired up ready to get behind the team.

The irony is the smaller the club we face at home gives them a greater chance of keeping the home fans quiet and eventually some home fans then turning on the team.

This ^^^.

Plus, throw in that vital ingredient for most away fans. Alcohol. And lots of it.

 

[blade too long]

No, we won today because there was no negativity in tactics. We went for it, showed passion and determination and pressed them for 90 minutes. That is why we won.

we won because the players did what clough always asks for all out attack , its them that dont follow instructions

 

[Harry's Game]

Atmospheres are always better away from home as its a day out with the lads, the game itself is just one aspect of the day.

The home games are different more people attending with families and kids and want to be entertained during the 90 minutes.

The play on the field dictates the atmosphere at home games, more so since all seater stadia came in.

 

[RedandWhite]

No, it's nothing to do with the fans.
Over a number of years, for every game we've lost at home with negative fans we've lost half a dozen away from home with positive fans.
Negativity of the fans is a fairly recent thing in football anyway, it didn't really start until the 1980's.
Before that football fans were too thick and brainwashed to think anything negative, they'd just turn up, cheer the team on, chuck darts and bottles at each other and have a great time regardless of the result.
It still never did United any good.

But booing and putting even more pressure on a team already low on confidence helps? they are human beings after all.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

Atmospheres are always better away from home as its a day out with the lads, the game itself is just one aspect of the day.

The home games are different more people attending with families and kids and want to be entertained during the 90 minutes.

The play on the field dictates the atmosphere at home games, more so since all seater stadia came in.

Harry has it spot on.
But there may be ways to improve the atmosphere at the lane, like having a singing corner, some standing areas, more positive football at home.
Away fans are generally always seen as better supporters for every club, honestly I can't think of one team that as a louder home following then away.

 

[JJBlade]

But booing and putting even more pressure on a team already low on confidence helps? they are human beings after all.

And were not human ? I dont boo anybody when I go but I'm not going to criticise fellow fans like some seem to think it's ok to do. It seems ok to boo our fans who have had to put up with generations of failure but the slightest bad word against the team, the club or the manager is thought of as non United like.
It's very strange that those to blame are untouchable and others just seem to say "Our fans are shit" and that's the total and complete answer to all of Uniteds problems

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I do agree with what you say and yes, if you've paid your money you have the right to support in any way you feel but I always find myself wanting to tell half our fans to shut up when we're at home but when we're away it feels like we're all in it together

Think it can be summed up in the celebrations at half time when we were ahead with a dodgy shot/free kick(?) at Tramere and the fans were going barmy, we were in fact shite.

 

[Going up]

I do agree with what you say and yes, if you've paid your money you have the right to support in any way you feel but I always find myself wanting to tell half our fans to shut up when we're at home but when we're away it feels like we're all in it together

Not just United, but a typical Brit mentality. ..fight and squabble when it looks ok and stick together when our backs are to the wall.

Just wish we would stick together at home, at least for the last few games. Confidence is so fragile, even at the top. One only has to look at the likes of Torres to see that.

Lets give them confidence and no excuse by getting behind them, even when things dont quite come off.

 

[grafikhaus]

But there may be ways to improve the atmosphere at the lane, like having a singing corner,

Singing corner??? We can't even cross the fucking ball from corners. Don't confuse 'em!