Away hoodoos

[Panini]

After our recent win at Birmingham ended a winless run at St Andrews stretching back to Boxing Day 1999, I decided to dig through the records to find our longest current winless away runs in the League.

It's curious how these things go. 8 games without a win away to Swansea and Wolves, but the Swansea run is 44 years longer, and they've changed stadium and name since our last win there.

Bristol Rovers would be top of the pile were it not for the late collapse at Villa Park in 2019.

 

[Paisley Blade]

There's a part of me that will never get over that Villa Park collapse.

 

[Maidenhead]

There's a part of me that will never get over that Villa Park collapse.

There was a big part of Wilder that couldn't either.

It seemed to completely change his approach and mind set and we never quite the same team ever again.

 

[Panini]

There was a big part of Wilder that couldn't either.

It seemed to completely change his approach and mind set and we never quite the same team ever again.

You may well be right but in the short-term it was a sliding doors moment. We took 33 pts of the next 42 available to finish second.

Maybe we would've done that anyway but I got the impression a few home truths were dished out at full-time at VP .

 

[Tickhill Blade]

There's a part of me that will never get over that Villa Park collapse.

That game was the day my youngest daughter was born. Sat there on a high holding my new-born baby, as Villa came back from 3-down, I thought it summed up being a blade pretty well to be honest!

 

[mattbianco1]

After our recent win at Birmingham ended a winless run at St Andrews stretching back to Boxing Day 1999, I decided to dig through the records to find our longest current winless away runs in the League.

It's curious how these things go. 8 games without a win away to Swansea and Wolves, but the Swansea run is 44 years longer, and they've changed stadium and name since our last win there.

Bristol Rovers would be top of the pile were it not for the late collapse at Villa Park in 2019.

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What about league grounds we've never won at?

Aldershot, Cambridge, Fleetwood, Hereford*, Wycombe

Any more?

*We have played Hereford 4 times and drawn all of them

 

[Revolution]

After our recent win at Birmingham ended a winless run at St Andrews stretching back to Boxing Day 1999, I decided to dig through the records to find our longest current winless away runs in the League.

It's curious how these things go. 8 games without a win away to Swansea and Wolves, but the Swansea run is 44 years longer, and they've changed stadium and name since our last win there.

Bristol Rovers would be top of the pile were it not for the late collapse at Villa Park in 2019.

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Our record at Villa Park has always been wretched. Between 1902 and 1921 we lost 16 straight games there. Then we were unbeaten in 4 (W1 D3) and then lost another 10 in a row up to 1938. 26 defeats in 30 games. The 16 in a row is a club record.

We have not scored in any of the last 9 away games v City. The last United player to score at City was Brian Gayle who scored both goals when we lost 3-2 in 1991-2.

On the flip side, we have won 6 straight league games at Reading, which is the longest such run in club history.

 

[Revolution]

What about league grounds we've never won at?

Aldershot, Cambridge, Fleetwood, Hereford*, Wycombe

Any more?

*We have played Hereford 4 times and drawn all of them

We’ve won at Cambridge in the FA Cup, in 2013-14. We’ve only played one league game there. Haven’t played them in the league since 1979.

I think Cambridge and Hereford (RIP) are the only teams we’ve played in the league and not beaten at least once.

Other current league teams we have not played in the league this century are Lincoln and Newport - last league games in 1984 (played Lincoln in league cup in 2000-1).

We’ve played Barrow in the Cup, in 1955-6, but never played at their ground. Same with Cheltenham (2002-3).

We’ve played Morecambe away in the League Cup but not in the league.

We’ve never played Accrington Stanley, Sutton, Forest Green, Harrogate or Salford in a competitive fixture.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

We’ve won at Cambridge in the FA Cup, in 2013-14. We’ve only played one league game there. Haven’t played them in the league since 1979.

I think Cambridge and Hereford (RIP) are the only teams we’ve played in the league and not beaten at least once.

Other current league teams we have not played in the league this century are Lincoln and Newport - last league games in 1984 (played Lincoln in league cup in 2000-1).

We’ve played Barrow in the Cup, in 1955-6, but never played at their ground. Same with Cheltenham (2002-3).

We’ve played Morecambe away in the League Cup but not in the league.

We’ve never played Accrington Stanley, Sutton, Forest Green, Harrogate or Salford in a competitive fixture.

We beat Barrow 5-0 in that cup tie, at the Lane.

 

[Cheets]

We also came agonisingly close to winning at Villa Park in 1992. Kevin Gage scored a wonder goal for us against his former team-mates but they got a late equaliser.

 

[Upton_Blade]

You may well be right but in the short-term it was a sliding doors moment. We took 33 pts of the next 42 available to finish second.

Maybe we would've done that anyway but I got the impression a few home truths were dished out at full-time at VP .

I'm sure it came out that there was a bit more than a few home truths dished out in the changing room afterwards.

 

[pommpey]

There's a part of me that will never get over that Villa Park collapse.

One of the odd games where JOC made a compete cow's cunt of a clearance and they scored as a result

pommpey

 

[mattbianco1]

We’ve played Morecambe away in the League Cup but not in the league.

Played them at home too. Sure it was one of Sharps first goals for us. 5-0

Edit- just checked. Sharp scored 2, they were his first goals for us.

 

[Micky Narker]

Hopefully won't get a chance to break the Bristol Rovers hoodoo...

 

[Cheets]

One of the odd games where JOC made a compete cow's cunt of a clearance and they scored as a result

pommpey

I also remember Didzy shooting straight at the keeper from an angle rather than squaring it to Billy for a simple tap-in that would have made it 4-0.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Our record at Villa Park has always been wretched. Between 1902 and 1921 we lost 16 straight games there. Then we were unbeaten in 4 (W1 D3) and then lost another 10 in a row up to 1938. 26 defeats in 30 games. The 16 in a row is a club record.

We have not scored in any of the last 9 away games v City. The last United player to score at City was Brian Gayle who scored both goals when we lost 3-2 in 1991-2.

On the flip side, we have won 6 straight league games at Reading, which is the longest such run in club history.

I've been to see United at Villa Park four times and never seen us lose there, drawn 3, won 1.

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

You may well be right but in the short-term it was a sliding doors moment. We took 33 pts of the next 42 available to finish second.

Maybe we would've done that anyway but I got the impression a few home truths were dished out at full-time at VP .

Absolutely.

 

[Chezzy Blades]

Some grim reading there.

I was at all 7 of those games at Walsall (it feels like 17 not 7!), all 4 at Oldham and all 4 at Stevenage.

The Stevenage games in particular were shocking. They had a player called Dani Lopez who they'd only fetched back on loan from the conference (Barnet I think?) a few days before. He tore us apart and scored a hat trick, his only three goals in English league football.

It's also the only place I've seen huge inflatable Christmas decorations outside a house in March.

 

[Silent Blade]

Love the story from Bob Socks about him meeting a female Villa fan after our last league win at Villa Park in 1966

 

[Valley Blade]

We’ve won at Cambridge in the FA Cup, in 2013-14. We’ve only played one league game there. Haven’t played them in the league since 1979.

I think Cambridge and Hereford (RIP) are the only teams we’ve played in the league and not beaten at least once.

Other current league teams we have not played in the league this century are Lincoln and Newport - last league games in 1984 (played Lincoln in league cup in 2000-1).

We’ve played Barrow in the Cup, in 1955-6, but never played at their ground. Same with Cheltenham (2002-3).

We’ve played Morecambe away in the League Cup but not in the league.

We’ve never played Accrington Stanley, Sutton, Forest Green, Harrogate or Salford in a competitive fixture.

We played Accrington Stanley in a test match in 1893 at Nottingham. Now be known as a play off. We were in division 2 and they in division 1.Won 1-0 and promotion to division 1. The start of a golden period for the red and white Wizards.

 

[spongebobblade]

You know you getting old when you saw 9 of those last league victories

 

[Silent Blade]

We played Accrington Stanley in a test match in 1893 at Nottingham. Now be known as a play off. We were in division 2 and they in division 1.Won 1-0 and promotion to division 1. The start of a golden period for the red and white Wizards.

Accrington FC, not Accrington Stanley. Accrington FC folded in mid 1890s

 

[Panini]

What about league grounds we've never won at?

Aldershot, Cambridge, Fleetwood, Hereford*, Wycombe

Any more?

*We have played Hereford 4 times and drawn all of them

I've only gone through the current set of League clubs up to now. I also didn't bother if the winless run is less than 4 as the list gets a bit...long.

Lots of other bits of info added by others but if we're talking of grounds we haven't won at it'll also include Emirates Stadium, Etihad Stadium, New White Hart Lane and New York Stadium as well as the two we haven't played at yet: Brentford Community Stadium and Plough Lane.

 

[Panini]

Other current league teams we have not played in the league this century are Lincoln and Newport - last league games in 1984 (played Lincoln in league cup in 2000-1).

Also Mansfield, who we last played in the League in 1989. Played them once since then, at home in the League Cup in 2014.

 

[Need4speed]

Don't want to piss on anyones bonfire here. but the players and management of any team don't know or care about this. it might be 10 years since we beat xxx away but they weren't the same opposition team or the same blades team Sometimes it wasn't even at the same ground. Think it only relevant if you are looking at about 2 seasons. which means I am not worried about any games this season

 

[Panini]

Don't want to piss on anyones bonfire here. but the players and management of any team don't know or care about this. it might be 10 years since we beat xxx away but they weren't the same opposition team or the same blades team Sometimes it wasn't even at the same ground. Think it only relevant if you are looking at about 2 seasons. which means I am not worried about any games this season

Has anyone has suggested it correlates to performances, or that the players and management know or care?

But thanks for taking issue with it anyway, for those of us that like this sort of thing.

 

[Valley Blade]

Accrington FC, not Accrington Stanley. Accrington FC folded in mid 1890s

I stand corrected.! Your knowledge is unsurpassed on here. Cheers for your input on this forum it is appreciated.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Also Mansfield, who we last played in the League in 1989. Played them once since then, at home in the League Cup in 2014.

The Bob Booker game, won 1-0, Peter Duffield pen if I remember correctly. It was f***ing freezing, sleet, blowing a gale. It was actually colder on the side terrace than behind the open away end. Pitch invasion at the end of the game was a nightmare, couldn't stand up with the layer of sleet on the pitch, ended up crashing into Deano!

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

Some grim reading there.

I was at all 7 of those games at Walsall (it feels like 17 not 7!), all 4 at Oldham and all 4 at Stevenage.

The Stevenage games in particular were shocking. They had a player called Dani Lopez who they'd only fetched back on loan from the conference (Barnet I think?) a few days before. He tore us apart and scored a hat trick, his only three goals in English league football.

It's also the only place I've seen huge inflatable Christmas decorations outside a house in March.

Going to Stevenage reminded me of going to Plough Lane in the '80s and we always lost there.

 

[Champagneblade]

I've been to see United at Villa Park four times and never seen us lose there, drawn 3, won 1.

Was that the run just after 1921?