Any Blades Supporters out there ??????????

[munksyb]

I joined this board , for information , discussion & updates , by loyal Blades

I was sick & tired of the 'outsiders' coming on to the 606 board, with inane comments

I have no doubt that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders, and prefer to go to BDTBL than anywhere else,

But I am amazed at the nergative whinging that goes on by Blades supporters,

No we are not Real Madrid, nor will we ever be so,
We do not play polished beatifull passing football

We have in the past , and do still at times play passionate , in yer face, exciting football
Using pace & wing play, with a bit of taking on defenders,

we've had a bad season ( and still will finish in the top 10 )

Definition
In British English, a supporter is a person who likes and supports a sportsperson or a team. Many teams of some sports have thousands of supporters, for example, the football team Real Madrid.

I will always SUPPORT the Blades, and look for the upside to my teams performance, much as I did in the old 4th division & back to the top flight

UTB

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You will find most view points on here from the so called clappers to the wrist slashers and all inbetween. You will soon see who to read and who to ignore.
Welcome to the board btw.

 

[puppet]

we were promised premiership status and europe within 5 years as part of the great leap forward. that never happened did it?

 

[Nick Jansky]

To be fair I don't think we were ever promised it. We were told that was the aim. And no, it didn't happen for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't constitute a broken promise.

 

[lenners]

munksyb,
Come on, the really, really tiresome suggestion that anyone thinks we're Real Madrid is just that, really, really tiresome.
It's about SUFC doing the best it can with the resources and support it has.
And I am really sick and tired of fans saying SUFC play in your face football and can't play any other way. It's bollocks.

 

[SE1Blade]

we were promised premiership status and europe within 5 years as part of the great leap forward. that never happened did it?

If we weren't cheated out of our place in the Premiership it might well have. Look at Fulham, right down there with us in that season (until Liverpool fielded 9 reserves) and look where they are now. As Fulham aren't as big a club as us (although richer) there's no reason why, three years on, we wouldn't be in their position. However, that unjust relegation had an effect on the club and its supporters that it still hasn't recovered from.

 

[holmfirthblade]

As much as I dislike West Ham for the way they cheated and were helped by the FA, Man Utd and Liverpool for playing weakened teams, the reason we were relegated was the tacktics away from home, we were in my opinion too negative, we needed 1 more point away from home and we would have stayed up, perfect example - we played a reserve team at Old Trafford and lost 2 - 0. Now I would not expect to get a draw there but I do remember Shelton missing a sitter, having a stone wall penalty turned down (as Heinze didn't get enough of Shelton's leg) and Tongue hitting the bar from 30 yards.

 

[Sean the Blade]

Hi Munksyb!

Welcome mate! I'm a recent transfer from 606 also, got fed up of the modders, although I do miss some of the input you get from the more level headed fans of other clubs.

As for the standard of football at The lane recently, quite frankly I think McCabe has been pinching money from fans! But, I don't believe it will get worse under McCabe and Blackwell (and we ALL know it can get worse!), and I live in the realisation that the two Kevs are temporary and will eventually be replaced. We'll just have to see if it's for better or for worse?!

 

[Ollessendro]

I joined this board , for information , discussion & updates , by loyal Blades

I was sick & tired of the 'outsiders' coming on to the 606 board, with inane comments

I have no doubt that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders, and prefer to go to BDTBL than anywhere else,

But I am amazed at the nergative whinging that goes on by Blades supporters,

No we are not Real Madrid, nor will we ever be so,
We do not play polished beatifull passing football

We have in the past , and do still at times play passionate , in yer face, exciting football
Using pace & wing play, with a bit of taking on defenders,

we've had a bad season ( and still will finish in the top 10 )

Definition
In British English, a supporter is a person who likes and supports a sportsperson or a team. Many teams of some sports have thousands of supporters, for example, the football team Real Madrid.

I will always SUPPORT the Blades, and look for the upside to my teams performance, much as I did in the old 4th division & back to the top flight

UTB

What is the point of this post? To come on here and immediately upset people??

The forum is actually a very interesting one. As Bob points out you get a real mixture of opinions and sme very stimulating debates. Stick with and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. A lot of people are just upset and disappointed at the moment. It's natural. The majority of fans feel we are under achieving and are moaning about it. So what?

I must admit that I have found the forum much less stimulating of late. I've gone from posting 4 or 5 times a day, to checking every 4 or 5 days. This has happened with my general apathy towards United increasing. It's funny how the forum became less interesting (IMO) when our season ended in April (maybe even March). People naturally found less to debate about.

I don't agree with your 1st post (i.e. of immediately criticising other members) but welcome regardless. As i said I'm sure you'll find it interesting as there is usually a good balance of supporters on here. I just think that at the moment the forum reflects the majority opinion and that is that most fans don't have a lot to sing about.

 

[LouTheBlade]

If we weren't cheated out of our place in the Premiership it might well have. Look at Fulham, right down there with us in that season (until Liverpool fielded 9 reserves) and look where they are now. As Fulham aren't as big a club as us (although richer) there's no reason why, three years on, we wouldn't be in their position. However, that unjust relegation had an effect on the club and its supporters that it still hasn't recovered from.

I am not completely against these sentiments and some clubs have benefited from foul play, there is no doubt. But I do not blame weakened sides and the Carlos Tevez affair on our relegation. To be honest I'm sick of hearing it. I was devastated that day against Wigan - I went home and went to bed, I couldnt face watching it again on tv, speaking to anyone about it or just generally being awake at the time.....

Despite all that, the reason we went down was NOT because of Carlos Tevez or Liverpool. It was down to bottleless tactics away from home (which saw us accumulate around 25% of our points) and completely inept decision making (by the manager and players) in the final key game against a poor Wigan side. The Blades knew what they had to do, win at home to Wigan and West Ham were down no matter what they did.....

West Ham were quite rightly handed a penalty over the Tevez affair and are suffering for their further financial mismanagement now on top of that - end of story. United went down because the manager wasnt brave enough and because if we're truthful enough, we weren't good enough. United could have stayed up comfortably despite Tevez or anything else - poor decision making in our own camp cost us dear.

One thing people dont take into account is Tevez scored a mere 7 goals in the 26 games he played for West Ham that season (hardly smashing the league up). Some people might argue that those goals were in key games and he also had a few assists. I would argue that another player may have come in and done similarly well or better - but we will never know that will we.....

 

[davidpinder]

I joined this board , for information , discussion & updates , by loyal Blades

I was sick & tired of the 'outsiders' coming on to the 606 board, with inane comments

I have no doubt that most of the posters on here are season ticket holders, and prefer to go to BDTBL than anywhere else,

But I am amazed at the nergative whinging that goes on by Blades supporters,

No we are not Real Madrid, nor will we ever be so,
We do not play polished beatifull passing football

We have in the past , and do still at times play passionate , in yer face, exciting football
Using pace & wing play, with a bit of taking on defenders,

we've had a bad season ( and still will finish in the top 10 )

Definition
In British English, a supporter is a person who likes and supports a sportsperson or a team. Many teams of some sports have thousands of supporters, for example, the football team Real Madrid.

I will always SUPPORT the Blades, and look for the upside to my teams performance, much as I did in the old 4th division & back to the top flight

UTB

If it wasn't for us the supporters there would be no Sheffield United, we have spent an entire season playing poorly, having records broken against us (peterborough and scunny) and finish in the middle of a poor division having spent a season in the prem not so long ago, going down by 1 goal, fans expect more. Should we? i don't know but i for one do and we are all entitled to our own opinion. I would finish by saying welcome but you have been a member since dec 2009 and have chosen now to speak your mind.

 

[Ollessendro]

I am not completely against these sentiments and some clubs have benefited from foul play, there is no doubt. But I do not blame weakened sides and the Carlos Tevez affair on our relegation. To be honest I'm sick of hearing it. I was devastated that day against Wigan - I went home and went to bed, I couldnt face watching it again on tv, speaking to anyone about it or just generally being awake at the time.....

Despite all that, the reason we went down was NOT because of Carlos Tevez or Liverpool. It was down to bottleless tactics away from home (which saw us accumulate around 25% of our points) and completely inept decision making (by the manager and players) in the final key game against a poor Wigan side. The Blades knew what they had to do, win at home to Wigan and West Ham were down no matter what they did.....

West Ham were quite rightly handed a penalty over the Tevez affair and are suffering for their further financial mismanagement now on top of that - end of story. United went down because the manager wasnt brave enough and because if we're truthful enough, we weren't good enough. United could have stayed up comfortably despite Tevez or anything else - poor decision making in our own camp cost us dear.

One thing people dont take into account is Tevez scored a mere 7 goals in the 26 games he played for West Ham that season (hardly smashing the league up). Some people might argue that those goals were in key games and he also had a few assists. I would argue that another player may have come in and done similarly well or better - but we will never know that will we.....

Red rag to a bull to many (inclduing myself).

We were damn unlcuky to go down. West ham cheated, Fulham got lucky and we got unlcuky. We had some hurrendous decisions go against that season also. Sure we should have beat Wigan on the last day and have only ourselves to blame, but to say that we shouldn't feel hard done by is ridiculous. Football matches are won and lost on such a fine margin and we went down on a fine margin. We were NOT the 3rd worst team in the league that year and were desperately unlcuky to be relegated. Am I crying still? Of course not. But do I think we were very unlcucky and feel a bit agrrieved. Absolutely. Yes it is time to move on and look forwards. But to deny that we were unlcuky, cheated, robbed and raped in that season is just rubbish.

 

[bladesman1889]

Promised European football :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[JJ Sefton]

...we played a reserve team at Old Trafford and lost 2 - 0.

It wasnt a reserve team and they put in a bloody good performance.

 

[bladesman1889]

It wasnt a reserve team and they put in a bloody good performance.

Yep, remember that blatant penalty Shelton should have had???

And Ferguson has the cheek to moan at refereeing decisions!

 

[beightonblade]

sum reight negative fookers on here ..................
what do they want football ?

 

[Kenilworth]

As much as I dislike West Ham for the way they cheated and were helped by the FA, Man Utd and Liverpool for playing weakened teams, the reason we were relegated was the tacktics away from home, we were in my opinion too negative, we needed 1 more point away from home and we would have stayed up, perfect example - we played a reserve team at Old Trafford and lost 2 - 0. Now I would not expect to get a draw there but I do remember Shelton missing a sitter, having a stone wall penalty turned down (as Heinze didn't get enough of Shelton's leg) and Tongue hitting the bar from 30 yards.

Kozluk scored a perfectly good goal at WHU, which if allowed to stand, would have meant an additional 1point for the Blades and two less for WHU. It was disallowed so we finished below the cheats.

In the first match of that season Morgan's phantom third leg (no, the other one) appeared for it's first and last time to up-end Darling Gerrard and Liverpool stole 2 points away from us, which would have seen us survive.

Even if Burnley win their last two games this year they will only reach a paltry 33 points whereas we got 38 the season we were relegated. They were getting spanked away from home because they tried to play an open game and that has cost them dear. Easy to criticise but Warnock was doing the best he could with what he had. If we had stayed up I believe we would have been emulating what Stoke City are now achieving.

 

[Ollessendro]

Easy to criticise but Warnock was doing the best he could with what he had. If we had stayed up I believe we would have been emulating what Stoke City are now achieving.

Absolutely! We were a hair's breath from staying up (against the odds). If NW had kept us up then he would have been a god. We got 38 points and should have had more. Hull stayed up with 34 points last season and this year West Ham could stay up with very similar. There's every chance that (under NW) we would have built on our success and done what Stoke have done (or better).

It really pisses me off how quick people are to slag Warnock. He stabalised the club, gave us a few exciting seasons and then (when he finally got money) he took us up emphatically. He is a Blade through and through and was a cracking manager. It only takes to look at our 2 managers since to realise how good he is. He gave us a great season in the prem (don't you remember beating Arsenal and Spurs, giving Man U a run for their money twice??) although it ended badly. If NW had have kept us up then no fucker would have been banging on about his negative tactics away from home. If he'd have played 4-4-2 away from home (as kenilworth pointed out) and we'd been ripped apart by better teams, with better players playing at home, then people would have been calling for his head.

 

[LouTheBlade]

Red rag to a bull to many (inclduing myself).

We were damn unlcuky to go down. West ham cheated, Fulham got lucky and we got unlcuky. We had some hurrendous decisions go against that season also. Sure we should have beat Wigan on the last day and have only ourselves to blame, but to say that we shouldn't feel hard done by is ridiculous. Football matches are won and lost on such a fine margin and we went down on a fine margin. We were NOT the 3rd worst team in the league that year and were desperately unlcuky to be relegated. Am I crying still? Of course not. But do I think we were very unlcucky and feel a bit agrrieved. Absolutely. Yes it is time to move on and look forwards. But to deny that we were unlcuky, cheated, robbed and raped in that season is just rubbish.

Olle, I agree with you in one respect. Yes we were unlucky - so were West Ham the year they went down, so were Birmingham the year they went down etc etc. A lot of teams have got relegated in the past when they have played better than those above. However, the point I am making is that all of the controversial things that go off and all of the poor refereeing decisions are part and parcel of the modern game. You don't have to accept them and take it on the chin (I'm not saying that) but you do have to accept that they will happen and if you're not good enough to play through them and write your own destiny then you haven't been good enough - simple.

We had some awful decisions against us yes. The Gerrard penalties (three of them), the Kozluk goal disallowed at West Ham, the Shelton penalty shout at Old Trafford; but how many newly promoted sides do you see getting decisions against bigger clubs???? Football fans all think that their team is cheated and that they get all the bad decisions all the time. Everyone wears the rose coloured specs. I think a lot of Blades got carried away on the McCabe legal action band-wagon and feel it is the only reason we went down which is utter tripe IMO.

The fact is if Gerrard's penatly hadnt been given at the Lane, if Kozluk's goal had been given at West Ham etc etc, neither you or I would be able to prove that results wouldnt have gone differently beyond that game. It could have been worse for us in fact - no one can prove that either way. My argument is that you cannot pin-point one thing or one part of the season for our failings. We werent good enough to overcome the odds after 38 games, and that is our own fault. We were ripped off to a large extent yes - but we suspected that would be the case before we set out!

It may be a red reg to many but that's their opinion. It won't change mine.

 

[Jostein Flo]

In the first match of that season Morgan's phantom third leg (no, the other one) appeared for it's first and last time to up-end Darling Gerrard and Liverpool stole 2 points away from us, which would have seen us survive.

Despite all the weakened teams, dodgy contracts, disallowed goals and refereeing decisions this is the one that really really still upsets me and has left me with a lingering desire to see Liverpool FC go to the wall with their god-awful supporters. If the ref had just awarded the penalty in the usual way they do to help out big teams and kept quiet about it I could have just about handled it and got on with the season. But to invent a completely new rule to make everything legit? Intent to foul... what a stupid stupid ruling. Bastards....

 

[Micalijo]

I am not completely against these sentiments and some clubs have benefited from foul play, there is no doubt. But I do not blame weakened sides and the Carlos Tevez affair on our relegation. To be honest I'm sick of hearing it. I was devastated that day against Wigan - I went home and went to bed, I couldnt face watching it again on tv, speaking to anyone about it or just generally being awake at the time.....

Despite all that, the reason we went down was NOT because of Carlos Tevez or Liverpool. It was down to bottleless tactics away from home (which saw us accumulate around 25% of our points) and completely inept decision making (by the manager and players) in the final key game against a poor Wigan side. The Blades knew what they had to do, win at home to Wigan and West Ham were down no matter what they did.....

West Ham were quite rightly handed a penalty over the Tevez affair and are suffering for their further financial mismanagement now on top of that - end of story. United went down because the manager wasnt brave enough and because if we're truthful enough, we weren't good enough. United could have stayed up comfortably despite Tevez or anything else - poor decision making in our own camp cost us dear.

One thing people dont take into account is Tevez scored a mere 7 goals in the 26 games he played for West Ham that season (hardly smashing the league up). Some people might argue that those goals were in key games and he also had a few assists. I would argue that another player may have come in and done similarly well or better - but we will never know that will we.....

And if we'd have gone up and been lucky enough to stay up with 32 points (or whatever will be the case this year) you'd have been hailing Warnock as a legend for keeping us up.

Yes we blew it against Wigan but I totally disagree with what you are saying. 3 away wins is pretty decent going for a promoted side.

 

[LouTheBlade]

And if we'd have gone up and been lucky enough to stay up with 32 points (or whatever will be the case this year) you'd have been hailing Warnock as a legend for keeping us up.

Yes we blew it against Wigan but I totally disagree with what you are saying. 3 away wins is pretty decent going for a promoted side.

How do you know I would be hailing him? I never rated Warnock as a manager though I found him entertaining. I would never hail him as a legend I can promise you.

3 away wins is not decent for anyone, in any division. It is piss poor. The 3 wins came against Watford (shite), Newcastle (were shite at the time), Wigan (shite). I respect your opinion Mic but IMO some of our fans point fingers in the wrong direction in respect of that relegation.

 

[Micalijo]

How do you know I would be hailing him? I never rated Warnock as a manager though I found him entertaining. I would never hail him as a legend I can promise you.

3 away wins is not decent for anyone, in any division. It is piss poor. The 3 wins came against Watford (shite), Newcastle (were shite at the time), Wigan (shite). I respect your opinion Mic but IMO some of our fans point fingers in the wrong direction in respect of that relegation.

I don't know, but I think it is fair to say that Warnock's stock in the eyes of people like you (who don't seem to rate him) would have been higher had we got 34 points and stayed up.

I said it is pretty decent for a promoted club going into the Prem. Surely you have to accpet it is far from disastrous? You think 3 away wins for a team new to Prem is piss poor - sorry but that is way off the mark for me.

 

[Come from away]

History is useful but I'd rather look forward. From our recent history (in the Prem) what stands out for me is the commitment shown by Mr. McCabe in fighting the Tevez affair and winning when many said it was an impossible task. I know he is commited to making this a successful club by getting back into the Prem. There are no guarantees for success as our life in the Prem demonstrated and I am certain he will give it his best shot. Not happy about this season but always a Blade. UTB!

 

[super_pig]

i hate these posts.. if you don't blindly clap everything you're not a fan.. f**k that i was at darlington. i'll criticise who i bloody well like

>No we are not Real Madrid, nor will we ever be so,
with that level of ambition we never will

>We do not play polished beatifull passing football
but we could do easy enough.. we have played it before.. the amazing thing is that whilst being more attractive (more people come) it is also more successful.. the reason bloody real madrid and barcelona dont play hoofball is that it isn't successful in the long term because you relinquish possesion too often.. anyway FYI this current team doesn't play hoofball either.. hoof ball is about field position and set pieces .. we are shit at set pieces .. hello?

>for example, the football team Real Madrid
heh . you ought to see their fans when they get pissed off mate

>In British English, a supporter is a person who likes and supports a sportsperson or a team
yes that is a supporter.. but it doesn't mean you have to 'blindly follow'.. (see USA).. it is your right to say what you like.. a lot of people died to make this possible
if you were really around in 1981 you'd know that the football then was 'better' than it is now.

 

[super_pig]

pfft.. put me in the keep net eh?.. heh

 

[LouTheBlade]

I don't know, but I think it is fair to say that Warnock's stock in the eyes of people like you (who don't seem to rate him) would have been higher had we got 34 points and stayed up.

I said it is pretty decent for a promoted club going into the Prem. Surely you have to accpet it is far from disastrous? You think 3 away wins for a team new to Prem is piss poor - sorry but that is way off the mark for me.

People forget that Warnock had more mediocre seasons with United than he had good ones. He had 2 good seasons (arguably 3, although I would question that) in his time at the lane.

3 away wins and 11 points from 19 games is not decent in my eyes for anyone. A number of teams have been relegated with that sort of away form. I dont think I'm way off the mark at all but thats your opinion and you're entitled to it.

It's easy to look at the actions of others to justify our own disappointment but I prefer to take a broad view of it and accept that everything put together, we simply didnt do well enough to stay up. Yes there was an element of foul play which didnt help in the slightest and it was certainly a contributing factor. However, if we had played our cards right and been a little more positive at places like Fulham, Middlesbrough, Reading, and Bolton etc. we would have been comfortable and Mr Scudamore, Tevez and co. wouldn't have even been in our thoughts. Which ever way you look at it, its all if's, but's and maybe's.

As soon as I saw he'd narrowed the pitch on open day I knew he was scared of the opposition. I understand why he did it but it showed his intentions. If you have to do things like that, then you know instantly that you're on the back foot.

 

[Ollessendro]

Lou, if someone had said to you before the start of the season in 2006 'you'll get 38 points this season' would you have taken it?

 

[Kenilworth]

If you were really around in 1981 you'd know that the football then was 'better' than it is now.

No it bloody well wasn't SP. I think the clouds of time have fuddled your brain.

We were losing to all kinds of shite back then culminating in that dreadful game against Walsall where Don Givens fluffed his lines. The football was comical until Porterfield came in and sorted it out.

 

[LouTheBlade]

Lou, if someone had said to you before the start of the season in 2006 'you'll get 38 points this season' would you have taken it?

No. That's my honest answer. 40 points is widely considered to be the safety mark in for guaranteed survival. That should be every team's aim following promotion. Many managers quote this number during a relegation battle as well so I feel this should be the minimum aim realistically.

I know that sides have stayed up with less than that but by the skin of their teeth on most occasions. Recent seasons have seen sides stay up with much less due to the increasing gulf in quality between the top and bottom sides.

The short answer to your very simple question however is NO. If someone had offered me that at the start I would be worrying all season.