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john Mathison said:
We are light years away from a prem squad. Blaster, now Soutta out for season, Vinny, Campbell, struggling for fitness. We will need at least five players in January window, just to maintain a top four position.
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Is Soutter out for season ?

Has it been confirmed?
 
Thrice said:
It's tough to build a Premier League squad when you become a yo-yo club. Because you're bound to lose your best players on a regular basis.
It seems that clubs like United, Burnley, Southampton and probably Leeds are firmly in the too good/rich for the Championship but not rich enough for the Premier League bracket. It's a neverending cycle of pressure to fight relegation/get promoted again to keep parachute payments flowing.
On the bright side, it's probably a more exciting position to be in than say Bristol City or Preston who seem to be destined to forever be middle of the pack and never play for anything.

Nottingham Forest took a huge risk when they spent all that money on new players. It paid off after all, but if it doesn't you risk undoing years of groundwork and maybe even put the whole club in danger.
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We've not sold any of our best players when we've been relegated. We've managed to keep them all.

Agree about Forest.
They were so close to being relegated in their first season and if that had happened they'd have been in total turmoil and now probably in league 1.
Just shows how an outrageous gamble has paid off and their fans think they owner is great.

If they'd have been relegated then their fans would have been demanding sympathy for having the worse owner in football.
They'd have been pleading with the EFL and PL to stop owners like Marinakis from owning clubs.
This demonstrate the different between a great owner and poor owner.....sometimes there's no difference....it's just luck.
 
SUFCinks said:
I think this is the weakest top 4 I can recently remember at champ level. The fact we’re top and been fairly average but robust says it all.

Any of the teams who go up, without lots of money I believe will also require huge funding or very strong tactical management and strong style of play to get anything out of next season.

I don’t believe any of the top teams have a style that will work in the prem, and nowhere near the quality to compete so lots of funds required to give it a go.

In regards to our squad I don’t think we have even 1 player who is prem standards. Hamer is capable but for every good thing he does, he does 2 or 3 wasteful things.

I personally believe we are a long way off in terms of quality, style of play, tactics, and depth. Defensively is perhaps one area we can say we’re pretty good but the rest of it needs lots of work, money and a keen eye for talent acquisition and creativity.
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I agree. Other than Cooper, Arblaster and Burrows, who all may be good enough, the rest are not.
 
If our players were as good as, or better than, established premier league players, then they’d be playing for an established team in the premier league.
It should surely be no surprise that every established premier league club has better players than us in every position on the pitch.

I’m pinning most of my hopes on …
1. We get promoted
2. We get one more point than the other 2 promoted sides in the premier league.
3. The Man City court case is appealed, taking it beyond next summer, and then a points deduction of 127 points is applied next season.

It’s a long shot, but compared to the feasibility of buying an entire squad of players which is better than someone else’s premier league squad, and paying them wages to match, I think it’s more realistic.

🤞
 
NotFallowfieldBlade said:
In my eyes we only have 3 prem standard players

Anel / Souza / Hamer
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Neither of whom pulled up that many trees on a weekly basis last time, though tbf, that season was the weirdest Blades season I've ever experienced in 55 years.
 
Sheffsteel said:
We've not sold any of our best players when we've been relegated. We've managed to keep them all.

Agree about Forest.
They were so close to being relegated in their first season and if that had happened they'd have been in total turmoil and now probably in league 1.
Just shows how an outrageous gamble has paid off and their fans think they owner is great.

If they'd have been relegated then their fans would have been demanding sympathy for having the worse owner in football.
They'd have been pleading with the EFL and PL to stop owners like Marinakis from owning clubs.
This demonstrate the different between a great owner and poor owner.....sometimes there's no difference....it's just luck.
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Whereas we only sell our best players (in recentish times) when we get promoted .
Lol.
 
Sheffsteel said:
We've not sold any of our best players when we've been relegated. We've managed to keep them all.

Agree about Forest.
They were so close to being relegated in their first season and if that had happened they'd have been in total turmoil and now probably in league 1.
Just shows how an outrageous gamble has paid off and their fans think they owner is great.

If they'd have been relegated then their fans would have been demanding sympathy for having the worse owner in football.
They'd have been pleading with the EFL and PL to stop owners like Marinakis from owning clubs.
This demonstrate the different between a great owner and poor owner.....sometimes there's no difference....it's just luck.
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Which we NEVER have!
 
FinchleyBlade said:
Based on what exactly? Two of them were absolutely awful last time we were in the prem.
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I was thinking the same. But then again some of our fans thought Brooks was the next big thing last season when all he did was run at players and lose the ball and not complete any passes. Even Arblaster last season was more hit and miss than many are willing to admit. He had a few stinkers along the way.

I would be happy with Souttar, Cooper, Arblaster and Hamer next season. Other than that the jury is out for me. So that's 3 already in, 8 needed and then we need strength from the bench. Next summer would take a lot of cash to keep us up and a miracle.
 

There is now becoming a gap in the Championship between yo-yo teams and the rest.
 
CarlMcBlade said:
Yes I agree, unfortunately it seems it takes Nottingham Forest levels of lunacy to even get a foothold in the Premier league these days. But being a yo-yo for a few years does eventually work if managed correctly. Bournemouth Fulham are more recent examples of this, and although the likes of Southampton, Leicester, Wolves are struggling a bit now, but they’ve all had longer periods in the Premier league than us after being yo-yo clubs.
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I agree yo-yo is the method. So long as the yo down isn't like last time.
Spend best we can on the upward and progressively build a deeper squad over a few seasons.
 
If we go up the only ones worth building round are Cooper, Burrow and possibly Peck and Blaster in long term and Cambell if they continue their development.

Anel and Vini are likely to be off if we go up as their value will be at a maximum and both tried to leave last year. They could be persuaded if we offer big contracts and they see big investment round them, so they do not have a repeat season of last year.

Hamer is an interesting one, he will need the same as Vini and Anel to stay, but not sure he is good enough, just too wasteful for the top division. (Not in the same class as illiman). He could do us a job, but not good enough to be the main man unfortunately.

Therefore. At least 3 more Prem quality defenders, A new main man for midfield and a whole new strike force. 200m will give us a chance if we do not have any season altering injuries. (Souters could be this year's as he has been a rock for all but two matches, but not good enough for the pace in Prem).

Hope the Yanks friends are as rich as some have suggested and financial fair play could stop us investing what we need, as Forest have had difficulties.

Oh and is are manager the right one for Prem? He is right for us, but big players on big money???
 
CarlMcBlade said:
Yes I agree, unfortunately it seems it takes Nottingham Forest levels of lunacy to even get a foothold in the Premier league these days. But being a yo-yo for a few years does eventually work if managed correctly. Bournemouth Fulham are more recent examples of this, and although the likes of Southampton, Leicester, Wolves are struggling a bit now, but they’ve all had longer periods in the Premier league than us after being yo-yo clubs.
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Bournemouth havent yo-yoed. They came down once on goal difference of one to Villa who as luck would have it tampered with a goal deciding device. :-)
 
Look we have a solid platform / spine of a team . Give the new owners an opportunity to back Wilder and strengthen. We are punching above our weight but so what give it time
 
McGrath said:
Yep the journey is far better than the destination when it comes to the Premier League. Send the likes of Man City off to a Super League for me, they can play Real Madrid in Riyadh every other weekend and we can get our game back!

That first season when we went up under Wilder though, and finished ninth, we were in European places pre lockdown. That was fantastic. It felt like Wilder and his team had figured out how to break the matrix. I'd love that again, we stuck it to them. I'd take that over spending £80 million any day
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Their intention would be to play in the Super League AND the premier league.
 
I think Leeds and to a lesser extent Burnley look like premier league squads playing in the champ.

We look like a champ squad doing really well in the champ.

My main concern is the style of play (if you can call it that) … it’s very dated and very easy to play against

Prem teams would be drooling a the prospect of playing us each week.

We regularly play back to the keeper when in promising positions.

It takes us an age to switch play to the opposite side of the pitch.

The lack of speed and athleticism still hasn’t been addressed.

We play most of our football in front of the opposition and rarely (if at all) look to break the lines and get in behind.

We dot have multiple tactical plans to adjust in game.

We get away with this in the champ but we won’t in the prem
 

Jan Age said:
I think Leeds and to a lesser extent Burnley look like premier league squads playing in the champ.

We look like a champ squad doing really well in the champ.

My main concern is the style of play (if you can call it that) … it’s very dated and very easy to play against

Prem teams would be drooling a the prospect of playing us each week.

We regularly play back to the keeper when in promising positions.

It takes us an age to switch play to the opposite side of the pitch.

The lack of speed and athleticism still hasn’t been addressed.

We play most of our football in front of the opposition and rarely (if at all) look to break the lines and get in behind.

We dot have multiple tactical plans to adjust in game.

We get away with this in the champ but we won’t in the prem
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Spot on.
 
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