Adkins out

[Bladeloyal]

Does any sane person think owd David Brent can shape the mighty blades into a promotion squad , Flynn central mid ? ,Hammond still playing ? Jay Mac captain? Bash am pro footballer? Done left wing back ? Coutts ??? (Pro footballer ,and I'll use that very loosely can't play more than 45 mins ,hang your tackle shy boots up ) . Salmon ?(I keep having Paul williams flash backs .). And that fraud of a player he got from millwall can't remember his name as he's so inconspicuous . Sack the idiot

 

[Blade56]

Other than the spelling of Salmon I can't fault your rational.

Not sure if sacking another muppet and replacing him with yet another muppet will work.

I'm so low I can only suggest we wait until the end of the season and bring Warnock back but we know McCabes ego won't allow that so I'm fresh out of ideas and Bladybladeness mojo

 

[Bladeloyal]

Sammon ,he's that shite I thought I'd spell his name wrong ,he's to football what I am to English grammar

 

[Blade56]

If we sacked him and got Pochettino in I wouldn't be confident he could get this club back on its feet after thinking at the time of their appointments the likes of Robson, Clough, Adkin's, Speed, et al were our saviours.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Does any sane person think owd David Brent can shape the mighty blades into a promotion squad , Flynn central mid ? ,Hammond still playing ? Jay Mac captain? Bash am pro footballer? Done left wing back ? Coutts ??? (Pro footballer ,and I'll use that very loosely can't play more than 45 mins ,hang your tackle shy boots up ) . Salmon ?(I keep having Paul williams flash backs .). And that fraud of a player he got from millwall can't remember his name as he's so inconspicuous . Sack the idiot

Interestingly this seems to be the first real 'Adkins out' thread.

I don't think Adkins realizes how patient the fans have been, even now, And I think a large majority would keep him for next season.

I agree with much of your sentiment in terms of his strange decisions, together with this being our worst season in 35 years. At this point his position is untenable.

However, I'm worried as to who would be the next boss if he is sacked.

The only replacement I can think of is Wilder. Maybe Appleton at Oxford, the fella at Rochdale, Chris Morgan??!!

As an example of how hard it is to think of the right fit for us, think of Steve Cotterill. He stormed the league last year with Bristol City (I can't remember if they threw money at it or not) and also won the Paint Pot trophy. He has very recent success at this level and Bristol City played good stuff. However, there is no way I would think Coterill would be a success here. I think he would be too soft, indecisive and just crumble under the pressure. Would be interesting to see what other fans thought.

So where do we turn. It's open for debate, but we currently have one of our worst managers in the last 35 years if you take into account relative budget, how we've gone backwards since last season, he's been here all season after a full pre-season etc....

but where are the decent suggestions for an alternative?

It's a sad state of affairs.

I think we'll start August with Adkins in charge, I think McCabe looks back and realizes it was a mistake to sack Warnock, Blackwell, Wilson and Clough at the times he sacked them, and will keep Adkins in hope he can turn it around.

 

[Blade56]

Wilder could be our next disaster waiting to happen

 

[Bladeloyal]

SUFC the disaster movie to top all disaster movies .but they are our disaster

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Perhaps we need a simple in or out poll on this. I think after last night many tethers have been arrived at.

Can't believe we have to contemplate giving the manager the chop again after neg Nigel's terrible reign. But surely we can't endure another season of Grand delusion from Adkins?

 

[PeteBlade]

Wilder seems to be the "go to" name that everyone plucks out of thin air.

Does anyone even know anything about his Oxford side?

This season's Stuart Beavon.

 

[Bladeloyal]

I'll own up I just don't like scousers .(I know he's off the Wirral but it's close enough)

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Wilder could be our next disaster waiting to happen

Not a lover of Adkins and not bothered if he goes or stays . Had a belly full to be honesty. Last night really summed up a season.

The difference between us and the rest is we are tactically inept . Brown last night changed tactics on three occasions and we didn't adapt . It got to the point we just lost all shape and nobody had any idea who was marking who . When it comes to this you cannot win your personal battles as , you just finish up punch drunk and chasing shadows. Players finish up just not knowing what there roles and responsibilities are .

We have to question Adkins and his coaching team overall . This to me has Reading written all over it . Adkins does not know league 1 at all and that has come to bite us in the arse. His aspirations were premiership or championship for getting back into management .

Have we again the scenario of a wrong manager for the wrong division . He knows less about league 1 players than us , we fans have had 5 seasons to study the good bad and ugly .

Definition to me is you need a experienced league 1 or 2 manager to get you out of this league , like you need a championship manager with experience to get you out of the championship.

UTB

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Don't really want us to be searching for another manager. But won't shed a tear if he goes.

 

[Deaneandagana]

Given we've only been in the 4th division on one occasion and therefore we must have finished in the bottom 4 of the 3rd Divn, then this season marks the 3rd worst ever in our 126 (?) seasons.

Therefore, he has to go - this is simply not acceptable, you can't dress the season & performances up any other way from the first ball being kicked away at Gillingham to last nights feeble capitulation.

Utter garbage, all involved at SUFC should hang their heads in shame - pitiful.

 

[Bladeloyal]

What worries me is Adkins and his staff can't see what is before their eyes ,we gave the game away at half time Hammond and coutts cannot play a second half full stop.and as for Flynn playing as a third central middy its criminal .adkins out

 

[Bladeloyal]

Division 4 is coming like night and day .

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

Wilder seems to be the "go to" name that everyone plucks out of thin air.

Does anyone even know anything about his Oxford side?

This season's Stuart Beavon.

Yeah he did well with them, brought them up from the conference, pushed through a lot of youth players. Progressed each season in league 2 but failed to make the play offs before leaving for Northampton. My mates an Oxford fan and he was happy with him.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Yeah he did well with them, brought them up from the conference, pushed through a lot of youth players. Progressed each season in league 2 but failed to make the play offs before leaving for Northampton. My mates an Oxford fan and he was happy with him.

Thought wilder left Oxford in the play off positions to take on and save Northampton ,he's done it with no financial clout at all ,he knows these leagues inside out ,

 

[PeteBlade]

Thought wilder left Oxford in the play off positions to take on and save Northampton ,he's done it with no financial clout at all ,he knows these leagues inside out ,

"These leagues" but not this league as he's never managed in it?

 

[Bladeloyal]

"These leagues" but not this league as he's never managed in it?

If your managing in league 2 with a desire to get to the next level as he's going to do with Northampton town you study the division above as well ,

 

[Blade56]

Don't really want us to be searching for another manager. But won't shed a tear if he goes.

Searching for a new manager would detract from searching for players. If we intend ditching him it needs to be soon so a new manager can be found, he can assess to squad (and not take 9 months doing it) and then build a new squad for next season.

Only problem is the current owners don't seem to be interested anymore so they will just keep going through the motions (no that's not a metaphore for paddling sh!t) and walk blindly into another season where we could go even lower than this season.

 

[grafikhaus]

However, I'm worried as to who would be the next boss if he is sacked.

Simply not a good enough reason to keep Adkins.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

If your managing in league 2 with a desire to get to the next level as he's going to do with Northampton town you study the division above as well ,

Wilder or Warnock are not the managers to move us forward. . I will hold judgement on Adkins on how we play tactically to the end of the season now the pressure is 100% off for the play offs.

We might as well drop players who are not to be retained next season either who are contracted or loaned. ( this to include Hammond ).

Adkins IMO is fighting for his job , reputation and future management potential .

Who could we get to replace him. - I have no idea . Poor reason to stick with the bloke but I see no viable alternative . Is it his back room staff that needs a change , with someone coming in with new ideas . Daft as it seems and don't shoot me down . Is that man Hammond.

Let's look at them under Adkins .

UTB

 

[PeteBlade]

If your managing in league 2 with a desire to get to the next level as he's going to do with Northampton town you study the division above as well ,

That's a bit of a guess. He may have, he may not have.

I'm not necessarily slagging him off, just think we'd have the exact same issues we have now if we continue to be run the same way.

 

[Smirth]

Stick with Adkins and we'll only go further and further down. He's past it as this job and his last one are proving.

He's totally clueless. Forget about anything he has done in the past and look at the here and now. He's taken a top 6 side, lost one key player, but added another, to a lower mid-table side in 9 months. The players he has brought in are all failures, barring 1. Not only that, but they are failures taking lots of money out of the club, just as Adkins and his entourage most likely are, and putting very little back in. He insisted on us buying a chief scout from Scunthorpe. That 'coveted' chief scout has not brought a single fucking player in yet.

He needs to be sacked, but I think the time has gone now. He should have gone after the pathetic Burton defeat but somehow survived. The board are petrified of sacking him for some reason, god knows why because he's bleeding us dry, stacking up shit players under contracts on big wages, and overseeing further regression of the club we all love.

 

[Bladeloyal]

That's a bit of a guess. He may have, he may not have.

I'm not necessarily slagging him off, just think we'd have the exact same issues we have now if we continue to be run the same way.

The way we are run from the top is a big part of the problem I agree .as for my bit of a guess I guess I'm right .

 

[Poole Blade]

Simply not a good enough reason to keep Adkins.

I think the answer to our problems may have been watching us closely last night - Ian Holloway anyone?

 

[Jonboy60]

Not a lover of Adkins and not bothered if he goes or stays . Had a belly full to be honesty. Last night really summed up a season.

The difference between us and the rest is we are tactically inept . Brown last night changed tactics on three occasions and we didn't adapt . It got to the point we just lost all shape and nobody had any idea who was marking who . When it comes to this you cannot win your personal battles as , you just finish up punch drunk and chasing shadows. Players finish up just not knowing what there roles and responsibilities are .

We have to question Adkins and his coaching team overall . This to me has Reading written all over it . Adkins does not know league 1 at all and that has come to bite us in the arse. His aspirations were premiership or championship for getting back into management .

Have we again the scenario of a wrong manager for the wrong division . He knows less about league 1 players than us , we fans have had 5 seasons to study the good bad and ugly .

Definition to me is you need a experienced league 1 or 2 manager to get you out of this league , like you need a championship manager with experience to get you out of the championship.

UTB

Thing is LBO, United are trying to put in place, a long term plan that will take us to the next level, and beyond. ie proven manager, an academy infrastructure to carry the ethos through the club. And ( disastrously as it happens) older more experienced players from above.
But what we want, or at least what I want, is to get someone in, albeit for short while, someone to get us out of this god foresaken league. Worry about the rest of it later.
I don't want warnock back, but to be fair at this moment in time he's the only one that I can see that would be capable, (scary I know). Give him the remit, out of this league 1st attempt, a nice big lump of change for doing it, and either move up stairs, or retire to the country again. We would get a boost in s/t sales, and on a run would get 20/22 k every home game. I repeat he's not my cup of tea, but anyone who comes in with a bit of nous seems to take their CV backwards, it's the poison chalice, NW would not give a fuck, most of these players would not know what hit them. KM, for the sake of his beloved United would have to stomache it for a while, so what, it's about SUFC, not Mcabe.

 

[Bladeloyal]

I think the answer to our problems may have been watching us closely last night - Ian Holloway anyone?

It's a shout for sure ,is he the sort of character to get the blades fans back on it ,could he get coutts bouncing round the dressing rooms , it wouldn't be boring I'm sure

 

[grafikhaus]

I think the answer to our problems may have been watching us closely last night - Ian Holloway anyone?

Can't see it and he's crap. Phil Brown (Sarfend manager)? He's crap. Phil Parkinson (Bradford manager who was at the Crewe game on Good Friday)? Crap. But none of these could be as crap as Badkins.

 

[Blade56]

I think the answer to our problems may have been watching us closely last night - Ian Holloway anyone?

You are taking the piss, yes?