70s football

[PeterNdlovu081]

Did ever a team go from almost League Champions to complete bobbins in such a short period of time?

Leeds finished 17th in 1992-93.

 

[Silent Blade]

Leeds finished 17th in 1992-93.

Without winning an away match!

 

[silverfox]

I was at the pigs v Man utd match with the Man utd fans on Leppings Lane.

 

[Mustela Putorius Furo]

I went to this Wendy game v Man U in Div 2.


Have we ever suffered such an embarrassment?
I can't imagine we have.
Or have we done it at other grounds.
Please tell me that we would never be such Wendy pushovers.

Here's a bit of an essay on it:

In my life I've witnessed Man U, Leeds and Wednesday fans do the same or similar thing at the Lane - notable because without ever desiring to be part of it I've been a victim of those clubs' nutters each time... as barely even a teenager. (

It has to be said that the Wednesday incidents were always County Cup games or testimonials when they turned up just to do that against United almost to remind us who were top dogs in the city - our status and crowds being higher at the time which they couldn't accept - typical crowd for those games would be about 4 to 5000, of which 75% were wednesday fans).

Man U did it everywhere they went simply because of the numbers that were following them away in the 60s and 70s, Leeds everywhere they went in the north for the same reason during late 60s early 70s - so you have Man U occupying the home end at Leeds and Leeds almost doing the same at Old Trafford - with differing amounts of violence resulting from the territorial battles that then ensued.

It didn't always happen because of an intent to "take the home end"... it was often just a result of a different attitude to segregation and entry into a ground, almost no such thing as all-ticket league games, and fans just gathering together amongst their own.

Watch videos of 70s games at the Lane and you'll see small pockets of away fans celebrating on the kop when they score - no big deal about it then.... when the numbers got very big was when the battles started.

When it became a semi-organised thing to "take the home end", Liverpool, West Ham, Man City, Newcastle attempted it without success at Bramall Lane... the Liverpool game being the infamous one and the reason vertical white fences were put in on the kop - front to back, to create informal pens.

Places where United have gotten away with it deliberately as a mob during that late 60s/early 70s era would be at grounds such as Derby, Ipswich, Burnley, Blackburn, Leicester and accidentally bizarrely at Old Trafford in 71 where the was almost as many Blades in the ground as home fans - or so it seemed.

On the other hand, I also remember in 75/76 seeing Blades get the severest kicking at Burnley. United turned up early, stood on the side terrace opposite the Bob Lord stand - maybe about 800-1000. No one dared stand near them - or so they thought. I was on an "EDS" coach that day and stood on the open air end, and could see people gathering behind us... they were waiting for their top man - a guy with a mohican hair-cut - the first I'd ever seen - and denim top-to-toe and 99-loop DMs - as soon as he turned up, to a man they turned, charged around the corner, across the terrace and battered the United fans through the fence that was set up for segregation that season.


I don't reflect on this with any relish - it's the childish behaviour of sad idiots, but I can't deny what I've witnessed, and I have to admit as a teenager it did provide a sort of voyeuristic thrill and excitement - until I was the one getting whacked. The sight of a thousand nutters kicking the shit out of each other is a sight to behold, and as i say, having been an unwilling and accidental participant - usually trying to get away from the rucking, I bear the mental scars.... To this day, I irrationally take against Leeds supporters because of what I've witnessed and experienced from them 40 years ago.

So in summary - the answer to your question: Yes.

 

[Aston max]

I went to this Wendy game v Man U in Div 2.



I looked it up on youtube because I remember, rightly, that Man U fans took the kop.
They walked across the pitch before the game and moved wendy off their own kop.

Around 30secs when Man U score. The kop celebrates.

At around 1min 18, you can clearly see a Man U flag at the other end.
Later, at 5min15 you can see Man U fans celebrate at the Leppings Lane end.

Have we ever suffered such an embarrassment?
I can't imagine we have.
Or have we done it at other grounds.
Please tell me that we would never be such Wendy pushovers.

myself and 5 blades mates went to that game just for a laugh ,dint end up very funny we got battered round all 4 sides of the ground but put up a better showing than the pigsis if you noticed on one of the goals the last of them scuttling away off the kop with their curly tails between their leg's

 

[Longtimesupporter]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18380173

There's a lot of this going on. Some of us can manage the walking football, but cannot do the running of ordinary football. It is so popular in Derby that we have it on three days per week.

 

[pommpey]

That SUFC 3-3 MCFC game:

1. Our third goal. THAT is how to take a corner. Woodward = my hero.
2. When Billy D gets legged over. He is lying behind a small hillock of turf
3. Speight's handball. That rear image was in the next Lane Line Up as I remember. He got booked for it.
4. John Hope. What. The. Fucking. Fuck? I remember that fucking goal he let through his legs at the kop end. Jesus, he was shit-pie with no Hendos on.

That MUFC drubbing:

1. Jim Brown. What a goalkeeper John Hope wasn't.
2. Keith Eddy. Shit addition to midfield, and everything we lost in Trevor Hockey never regained.
3. Was that Woodward wearing 'nine'? Or was it that lumbering oaf Guthrie?

Mate of mine went to one Burnley match in the 70s and our fans were effectively penned in. He felt something crack off the top of his head and the dart (which is what it was) embedded itself in the back of a leather-jacketed girl in front. He also said theier fans sung 'Burnley ... Burnley' to the tune of Amazing Grace for about 80% of the match and one copper with his uniform almost white with phlegm.

I remember a County Cup game (possibly 35-40,000 squeezed into the Lane) and my mate saying to me that Wednesday were about to take the kop. It suddenly got all tight and snug and then their call went up and we were surged down the kop, I ended up in one of the gangways fortunately not as buried as some poor fuckers on the bottom and then the scrapping started. The coppers let it boil for a minute and then waded in with the sticks and nicked a lot of fans from both sides. There was a further scrap down in the bottom right hand corner and then some pigfans came on the pitch towards the kop from the JSS but the coppers got them.

pommpey

 

[Silent Blade]

3. Was that Woodward wearing 'nine'? Or was it that lumbering oaf Guthrie?

Yes, it was Woody wearing number 9, Jimmy Johnstone wore the number 7 shirt and Dearden number 11. I wasnt at that match as I was at boarding school but I remember my dad saying that Man U attacked a lot. I have just checked the team in "Complete records". Guthrie didnt play, it was the last SUFC match for Len Badger and Bill Dearden

 

[metalblade]

God that team in 76 was shite with one or two exceptions

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

Funny how incongruous it looks now when the keeper picks up a backpass. Outlawing that was one of the smartest moves they made.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

God that team in 76 was shite with one or two exceptions

Looks like they knew they were shite also.

 

[Silent Blade]

Funny how incongruous it looks now when the keeper picks up a backpass. Outlawing that was one of the smartest moves they made.

The back-pass rule was introduced in 1992 and there was a lot of confusion in the first season. I remember when a shot was deflected by a defender towards our goal and Alan Kelly decided to head the ball rather than using his hands!

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

missed this match , day I got married never forgave her

And to think just a couple or so seasons after we could've signed Francis Lee

 

[dublin 10 blade]

That Manu game was when I was still at Bluebell junior school , lads that went told me about it . Said it was chaos ,
Couple of times fans tried to take our Kop from my time , Forest tried it and got ran out of the place ,
and sadly the pigs , When the big white fences separated the Kop into 3 ? , pig fans had the perfect position , nearest South stand side with the moat in front of em , so we couldn't get into them all game protected by the coppers was only at full time we could get into them as such and finally chased them out , couple of pig mates where there and they where good lads , outside of football ,
not advocating violence but in the time and era it was the thing to do (sad I know )
The era of sham 69 , and the cockney rejects " war on the terraces "
But that was the era we grew up in , not like these CCTV days now , where you can throw a few shapes and the police are on your case.
Think the violence that can take place around soccer is stupid now , and has no place in society .
The pig game was 1-1 .

 

[maidmarion]

remember the home fixture v Wendy . Their fans were allowed on the Kop for goodness only what reason and all hell was breaking out. There was fighting in the men's toilets! A man in front of me was hit and bell unconscious and the police.........vanished. Not pleasant .

 

[Lawrence]

Haaaa the 70s! What great times we had, so many stories that will never be told... Just been reading the Shred Tours thread and it reminded me of another unitedite 'Bill Goodison' who used to run coaches Home and Away from Mexborough (Billies Coaches) does anyone remember Bill? So many great away days, I remember going to the ManU away game, 1971 and back in the first division, and after 5 games we stood top of the league with ManU second, you only bought advanced tickets for the seated areas in thoughs days (the rest always paid cash at the gate) and on our arrival the ground was full with (it was said) around 20,000 locked out, I remember the Crowds outside were massive. Another occasion we caught the Football Special (£2) down to Fratton Park (Portsmouth) it was a beautiful Hot sunny day, on the way into the ground the Police told everyone (skinheads) with ' Bovver Boots' on to take them off, there were loads of Unitedites stood on the away end with no shoes on, hilarious! Frank Barlow got sunstroke that day and had to go off after about 40 minutes think we won 5-0 and in the 70s We were all 'Unitedite' and not a 'Blade'