£7.5m bank loan

[DronnieBlade]

Resting it easier than answering the question I take it?

I’ll answer you.

I wasn’t aware who the bank was.

Which is to say I didn’t know the name of the Bank.

I wasn’t sufficiently interested to understand previously which Essex based bank the loan is with.

I couldn’t be arsed to do my homework in this regard.

Hope this is clearer than the last time I pointed this out !!

UTB

 

[Sean Thornton]

I’ll answer you.

I wasn’t aware who the bank was.

Which is to say I didn’t know the name of the Bank.

I wasn’t sufficiently interested to understand previously which Essex based bank the loan is with.

I couldn’t be arsed to do my homework in this regard.

Hope this is clearer than the last time I pointed this out !!

UTB

Those "not sufficiently interested" always seem to be, well, you know....


Actually no, you've repeated yourself but not actually answered. Don't worry about it anymore though.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Those "not sufficiently interested" always seem to be, well, you know....


Actually no, you've repeated yourself but not actually answered. Don't worry about it anymore though.

UTB

 

[blade too long]

dont see why a case needs a rest , never walks very far

 

[blade too long]

Sounds to me like both owners have decided they aren’t footing the bill this year as the legal case goes on, therefore they are funding the losses through debt for the whole season. The security against the Brooks transfer is due to the fact that the entity that is taking the loan out (i.e. the football club) doesn’t really have many assets on its books.

I just hope that there’s something in the loan agreement that once the ownership situation is sorted, whoever wins has to settle the loan and pony up their own cash. Don’t want to see us getting into a situation with the banks.

if its only 7m its hardly extraordinary
some of our fans want us to spunk double that on a replacement for McGoldrick

 

[TTMeysh]

not quite kosher

One of them Arab banks? Well dodgy...

 

[raul]

if its only 7m its hardly extraordinary
some of our fans want us to spunk double that on a replacement for McGoldrick

Which fans?

 

[Worksop II]

Which fans?

The ones banging the Drum in his head ...

 

[8lade]

We'eres money gone?

Essex apparently.
Such a disappointment now we know.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I can't accept that we got less than £12m for such a fantastic talent.

Sheffield United, always knowingly undersold.

 

[Kev Gee]

7.5 million will probably cover wages till the end of the season.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I can't accept that we got less than £12m for such a fantastic talent.

Sheffield United, always knowingly undersold.

You'd have thought we would have taken one of those higher offers......

 

[snootyfenooty]

You'd have thought we would have taken one of those higher offers......

For the higher offers to come in, the player has to build up his CV a bit first. Seeing as we are reluctant to allow this to happen by getting rid at the first opportunity, your scenario will never arise. The obvious conclusion that can be drawn is if the player is worth £12m after a handful of starts, then what would the price tag be with a full season to his credit?

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

For the higher offers to come in, the player has to build up his CV a bit first. Seeing as we are reluctant to allow this to happen by getting rid at the first opportunity, your scenario will never arise. The obvious conclusion that can be drawn is if the player is worth £12m after a handful of starts, then what would the price tag be with a full season to his credit?

And where would he have played and how much higher up the table do you think that we would be today?. And yes I am sad that he has left but I’m not sure where he would have fitted in, maybe instead of Mcgoldrick

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

For the higher offers to come in, the player has to build up his CV a bit first. Seeing as we are reluctant to allow this to happen by getting rid at the first opportunity, your scenario will never arise. The obvious conclusion that can be drawn is if the player is worth £12m after a handful of starts, then what would the price tag be with a full season to his credit?

DB was sufficiently well known for more than Bournemouth to have been the sole bidding club, if he was well thought of. That is true this summer & the summer before. If not, how did Everton gather enough evidence of DCL to buy him? Also due to the nature of modern football, as soon as a bid came in from Bournemouth, every single prem league club would've known about it and had chance to submit one themselves. That's surely why DB changed his agent? To get one with a wider spread of contacts? If he's changed his agent to someone who only had Bournemouth's phone number, he's not recruited well.

 

[Sean Thornton]

For the higher offers to come in, the player has to build up his CV a bit first. Seeing as we are reluctant to allow this to happen by getting rid at the first opportunity, your scenario will never arise. The obvious conclusion that can be drawn is if the player is worth £12m after a handful of starts, then what would the price tag be with a full season to his credit?

And if the player wants to go?

Harry had a decent cv. Where were the higher offers?

 

[snootyfenooty]

And where would he have played and how much higher up the table do you think that we would be today?. And yes I am sad that he has left but I’m not sure where he would have fitted in, maybe instead of Mcgoldrick

Without going into too much detail I would have thought that someone with his talent, which has subsequently been proven at International and Premiership level, could have been found a position somewhere in a second division club.

DB was sufficiently well known for more than Bournemouth to have been the sole bidding club, if he was well thought of. That is true this summer & the summer before. If not, how did Everton gather enough evidence of DCL to buy him? Also due to the nature of modern football, as soon as a bid came in from Bournemouth, every single prem league club would've known about it and had chance to submit one themselves. That's surely why DB changed his agent? To get one with a wider spread of contacts? If he's changed his agent to someone who only had Bournemouth's phone number, he's not recruited well.

Howe had the foresight to jump in first. He probably also was aware that United don't argue the toss too much when there's money on the table. First come first served is Mr McCawber's historic negotiating position.

And if the player wants to go?

You say fuck off sunshine, you've only just signed a 4 year contract. And take that fucking agent with you.

 

[Lil red rooster]

How much is brooks worth now three months after we practically gave him away,but hey we've got a 5% sell on clause so thats ok .

 

[CaptainMorgans]

How much is brooks worth now three months after we practically gave him away,but hey we've got a 5% sell on clause so thats ok .

Is that all it is? I don’t remember ever seeing the number reported. Was only thinking this morning how I hope we’ve got a 20% + on him...

 

[SteveBlade]

How much is brooks worth now three months after we practically gave him away,but hey we've got a 5% sell on clause so thats ok .

This argument makes no sense. Let's say he keeps up his form consistently, bringing his value to about 30 million.

The only scenario where he'd have been worth that as a SUFC player would be if we went up, and he had a season like that for us in the Premier League.

The only way you have anything like a valid point is if you believe that he'd have played a big part in getting us promoted this season.

 

[LJBlade]

Without going into too much detail I would have thought that someone with his talent, which has subsequently been proven at International and Premiership level, could have been found a position somewhere in a second division club.



Howe had the foresight to jump in first. He probably also was aware that United don't argue the toss too much when there's money on the table. First come first served is Mr McCawber's historic negotiating position.



You say fuck off sunshine, you've only just signed a 4 year contract. And take that fucking agent with you.

As good as Brooks is he hasn’t proven anything at Premiership or International level yet. He’s only played 6 games for Bournemouth and 5 for Wales!

 

[itsinyerblood]

Wonderful thing hindsight......

I can't understand why the financial wizards on here can't grasp the fact that we'd have accepted a greater figure than the Bournemouth offer if it had been made.....but where was this amount? Couldn't find it, neither could anyone else. All the waffle in the world, and here we are, on top of the Championship, yet that's not enough for those of us who can figure out how things that would've panned out with the benefit of hindsight. How much better would we have done than be top of this division? Of course, it may not last, but for the moment it's deserved, and this team are looking good, so what else does anyone want...other than the retention of a young player whose eventual and timely move enabled this team to strengthen?

Talking as if you just know an outcome is the easiest, most predictable party trick there is. Rather than point an accusing figure, as if anyone at United wouldn't have preferred to accept a higher amount than the figure quoted, is the sum total of know-nothingness. The facts are as follows, there wasn't another offer to consider!.

Yes, wouldn't it have been lovely to add an addition £6-8 million to whatever figure we sold Brooks for, but it wasn't to be. Just be glad that the sale of a young player enabled our manager to strengthen sensibly and creatively.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

You'd have thought we would have taken one of those higher offers......

The absence of other offers doesn't make the only offer the right one by default.

It's just like at the end of a night out, you don't go home with a torrid munter just through fear of going home alone.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Without going into too much detail I would have thought that someone with his talent, which has subsequently been proven at International and Premiership level, could have been found a position somewhere in a second division club.



Howe had the foresight to jump in first. He probably also was aware that United don't argue the toss too much when there's money on the table. First come first served is Mr McCawber's historic negotiating position.



You say fuck off sunshine, you've only just signed a 4 year contract. And take that fucking agent with you.

This football larks really simple isn't it?

 

[Sean Thornton]

The absence of other offers doesn't make the only offer the right one by default.

It's just like at the end of a night out, you don't go home with a torrid munter just through fear of going home alone.

The absence of other offers says the price was about right. Anyone seriously interested would have bid.

The McCabe takes the first offer argument is ridiculous. If it's all about money he'd take a higher bid surely? Assuming they were flooding in.

For some people, if we'd got £20m for him, we'd have undersold as he'd obviously be worth £30m.

There are also two owners, but as usual only McCabe takes the blame.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Anyone. Know the outcome of the mediation talks between McCabe and the prince.Supposed to have taken place in September but no news so far.
Are they going to high court or have they found some common ground ?
Would be nice to know one way or another ,surely someone will know ?

 

[LJBlade]

The absence of other offers says the price was about right. Anyone seriously interested would have bid.

The McCabe takes the first offer argument is ridiculous. If it's all about money he'd take a higher bid surely? Assuming they were flooding in.

For some people, if we'd got £20m for him, we'd have undersold as he'd obviously be worth £30m.

There are also two owners, but as usual only McCabe takes the blame.

The ‘McCabe takes the first offer’ argument is even more ridiculous when you consider that we didn’t even take Bournemouth’s first offer.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The ‘McCabe takes the first offer’ argument is even more ridiculous when you consider that we didn’t even take Bournemouth’s first offer.

I'm sorry but using facts to challenge made up nonsense won't make you many friends on here. Especially concerning McCabe.

 

[LJBlade]

I'm sorry but using facts to challenge made up nonsense won't make you many friends on here. Especially concerning McCabe.

I must admit it’s hard to keep up. I thought we all liked McCabe at the moment and that it was the Prince who was the bad guy? Or do we sort of like McCabe because at least we know he’s selling off all of our players cheaply and pocketing all the money?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I must admit it’s hard to keep up. I thought we all liked McCabe at the moment and that it was the Prince who was the bad guy? Or do we sort of like McCabe because at least we know he’s selling off all of our players cheaply and pocketing all the money?

They know he'll scupper promotion, because "he didn't want to be in the championship anyway" he was quite happy losing £4m+ a season in L1. That's why he won't give Wilder any money, he spoiled his master plan.