Adkins has to stay.......

[Bladesman]

He's told them to upgrade the academy. Coming from Southampton and seeing how many years one big sale would fund the academy for, makes it a no brainer. Its a viability question for the current setup, as it threatens to undermine whether the best young players will reach maturity (professional contracts) with us. Some will of course still choose to stay with the blades, but we'd have no legal recourse if we complete 99% of their development and only receive a token payment at the end of it because a hawk has offered some pieces of silver. If it was financed, it would ensure that the club benefited from the talent it had nurtured but would also, importantly, put us in a smaller elite group of clubs when attracting talent - especially in the north of England. A no brainer, especially when the majority/if not all of the facilities to meet the specifications have already been paid for. We've already lost three kids, which indicates that the medium term viability of the system is being threatened. They were all taken by Category One academies. Youth football is very murky, and bribes and material things being promised to parents isn't uncommon.

As discussed the other week on here, the benefits of the academy are there if used to its full potential. I don't think any previous manager has made the most of it academy.

It's just annoying the way big clubs collect the youngsters with no real long term vision for their future. In Chelsea's case it's buy and sell on unless the player is something really special.

 

[vorpal blade]

.....because he paid up front for a 2 year gym membership?

 

[Barney]

Well, they didn't have 40 man squads and the players signed were signed with a view to playing the way the manager wanted them to play.

Clough left behind a squad heavy on small midfielders, heavy on crocks, light on centre halves, light on height and light on character. We did have 2 very good players though. One was sold and one has been injured/ out of form.

The league table doesn't lie. However you try and work around it, the fact of the matter is that we finished above those teams and therefore had less to build on than they did.

 

[PeteBlade]

And yet Jim Phipps has said that the Murphy money has all been used on wages. Something not quite adding up, which could be something to do with the fact that your post is almost entirely guesswork. I do admire your self confidence in predicting figures as specific as those though.

Did he?
And did he say it was paying for the wages of Adkins signings, or previous?

 

[Balham]

What do you mean BB when you say 'methods'? Style of play? Management?

Everything. I've heard first hand that his training involves "lots of running" and his man management style is best described as confrontational. It'd be another U-turn from Adkins and it would set us back another 2 years.

 

[BushBlade]

Everything. I've heard first hand that his training involves "lots of running" and his man management style is best described as confrontational. It'd be another U-turn from Adkins and it would set us back another 2 years.

That's all I needed to know.

 

[Barney]

Did he?
And did he say it was paying for the wages of Adkins signings, or previous?

Indeed he did. Something along the lines of "The Murphy money has been re invested in first team football" when asked why we hadn't bought anyone with it. I believe it was a Twitter post.

 

[Barney]

Everything. I've heard first hand that his training involves "lots of running" and his man management style is best described as confrontational. It'd be another U-turn from Adkins and it would set us back another 2 years.

Such confidence in something you can't possibly be very confident about.

 

[Balham]

Such confidence in something you can't possibly be very confident about.

I trust the person I spoke to. You don't have to, that's your prerogative.

 

[Barney]

I trust the person I spoke to. You don't have to, that's your prerogative.

But what you're saying is that his training involves "lots of running" and he can be confrontational and because of this, he will therefore be certain to set us back 2 years. I think that's complete gibberish. If it were April the 1st I'd have congratulated you on a good effort.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

The league table doesn't lie. However you try and work around it, the fact of the matter is that we finished above those teams and therefore had less to build on than they did.

So Swindon and Blackpool have underachieved more than us this season? They were in a stronger position to kick on having finished above us?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Indeed he did. Something along the lines of "The Murphy money has been re invested in first team football" when asked why we hadn't bought anyone with it. I believe it was a Twitter post.

I think Phipps simply said it would be invested in the team and it was McCabe who later said it had gone (despite the lack of incomings).

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Such confidence in something you can't possibly be very confident about.

This from the poster who confidently states as fact


“We never sign anyone fans suggest” (Sharp and Brayford)


“I could score more than DCL has in League 2”


“Adkins priorities other positions before defence”


“we could pay contracts up and not be affected under FFP/SCMP”


“How dare you ban me Foxy!?”

 

[Barney]

So Swindon and Blackpool have underachieved more than us this season? They were in a stronger position to kick on having finished above us?

You could take out Blackpool as they had some pretty exceptional circumstances effecting things there but yes, I would say that when a team finishes above another in the league table, it would be pretty logical to suggest they are a better team and thus have less to build on to kick on.

 

[Barney]

This from the poster who confidently states as fact


“We never sign anyone fans suggest” (Sharp and Brayford)


“I could score more than DCL has in League 2”


“Adkins priorities other positions before defence”


“we could pay contracts up and not be affected under FFP/SCMP”


“How dare you ban me Foxy!?”

Effort.

 

[PeteBlade]

But what you're saying is that his training involves "lots of running" and he can be confrontational and because of this, he will therefore be certain to set us back 2 years. I think that's complete gibberish. If it were April the 1st I'd have congratulated you on a good effort.

Funnily enough I thought the same when you said keeping Adkins next season would set us back 5 years.

Your gibberish alarm clearly doesn't stretch as far as reading your own posts.

 

[Barney]

Funnily enough I thought the same when you said keeping Adkins next would set us back 5 years.

Which would be understandable if I'd based it on how often they run in training sessions.

 

[PeteBlade]

Which would be understandable if I'd based it on how often they run in training sessions.

Who knows what you base anything on.

 

[Barney]

Who knows what you base anything on.

I tend not to judge players after one game too. If I can help it.

 

[Balham]

But what you're saying is that his training involves "lots of running" and he can be confrontational and because of this, he will therefore be certain to set us back 2 years. I think that's complete gibberish. If it were April the 1st I'd have congratulated you on a good effort.

I was trying to politely suggest that he doesn't pay anywhere near enough attention to the science and analytical side of things and rules through fear as he may lack the ability to empathise and get his ideas across to a variety of personalities. I'll refer you, again, to the comparison to Micky Adams (incidentally, a comparison my friend made too): how did that experiment end?

You have an agenda against Adkins so come across as viewing any change as a good thing. I'd humbly suggest that there's probably a very good reason why a manager with Wilder's track record of overachievement in the lower and non-leagues hasn't been offered a change at any clubs higher than Northampton Town.

 

[Barney]

I was trying to politely suggest that he doesn't pay anywhere near enough attention to the science and analytical side of things and rules through fear as he may lack the ability to empathise and get his ideas across to a variety of personalities. I'll refer you, again, to the comparison to Micky Adams (incidentally, a comparison my friend made too): how did that experiment end?

You have an agenda against Adkins so come across as viewing any change as a good thing. I'd humbly suggest that there's probably a very good reason why a manager with Wilder's track record of overachievement in the lower and non-leagues hasn't been offered a change at any clubs higher than Northampton Town.

I'd humbly suggest that any success he has at clubs won't be purely down to his confrontational tendencies and how often his players run in training sessions.

 

[PeteBlade]

I tend not to judge players after one game too. If I can help it.

You would struggle to see them play one game after "selling your season ticket".

 

[Barney]

You would struggle to see them play one game after "selling your season ticket".

No I wouldn't. I can ring them up, buy a ticket, sit down at my seat and watch a game whenever I please.

 

[PeteBlade]

No I wouldn't. I can ring them up, buy a ticket, sit down at my seat and watch a game whenever I please.

Just like you 'could' have sold 'your' season ticket too.

 

[Barney]

Just like you 'could' have sold 'your' season ticket too.

Poor form.

 

[PeteBlade]

Poor form.

That's one thing we do agree on.
Our form has been shit.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Is it just wishful thinking on most part?

 

[blade too long]

Hasn't he just?

Shows an equal lack of knowledge or intelligence whichever side of the debate he's on.

so Im wrong in your opinion and not allowed to have one that differs

I base all my opinion on fact

fact is weve regressed , plain and simple
had we been 6th on gd Id back him to the hilt , but hes just not delivered

If any manager in any business fails to meet targets they come under question
starry eyed hopes he will come good , given time, dont wash
but you live in your dream world , Adkins might deliver the Narnia Cup in your wardrobe , but Im more concerned over league one points

 

[PeteBlade]

so Im wrong in your opinion and not allowed to have one that differs

I base all my opinion on fact

fact is weve regressed , plain and simple
had we been 6th on gd Id back him to the hilt , but hes just not delivered

If any manager in any business fails to meet targets they come under question
starry eyed hopes he will come good , given time, dont wash
but you live in your dream world , Adkins might deliver the Narnia Cup in your wardrobe , but Im more concerned over league one points

Brilliant, for lovers of irony you've lied that your posts are based on facts when you're regularly pulled up on the sheer inaccuracy of your postings and YOU have accused someone else of living in a dream world!

You provide priceless comedy to this board, don't ever change.

 

[blade too long]

Brilliant, for lovers of irony you've lied that your posts are based on facts when you're regularly pulled up on the sheer inaccuracy of your postings and YOU have accused someone else of living in a dream world!

You provide priceless comedy to this board, don't ever change.

well you said Adkins had no money but I posted an article where he admits moneys on the table
so you tell big fat lies too
getting numbers wrong by one or 2 isnt lying

you live in a world where you are always right
thats the biggest fantasy world ever
no wonder your pic is a chimp , its very appropriate