Adkins out

[Linz]

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If we find any more aggressive posts tonight, all concerned will be infracted.

Consider this a very lenient warning.

 

[nopigfansintown]

The only reasons to keep Adkins are entirely negative ones -

- The board have kept "chopping & changing"; this needs to stop.
- The money isn't there to compensate him.
- What if whoever's appointed to replace him turns out to be worse?
Etc.

Get rid. Acknowledging that he was the last, ultimate, try at the "quick fix" to get us up out of this hellhole of a division. It's failed.

Time to build for the future - & Adkins isn't the man to do that.

Adkins was the long term plan not a quick fix. Public pronouncement of ambitions are not the same as the private, realistic expectations the board hold. You'll never hear our PR people saying we have to cut costs and realistically promotion is a pipe dream. The manager has to mirror the "public" line.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Adkins came in with the specific remit to get us up this season. I remember him being quite clear about this when he first arrived and the board were clear that this was their expectation too.

He has failed to do this and should go. He has failed his fundamental objective.

Of course he won't fall on his sword and miss out on a large wedge of compensation, so he is bound to blather on with optimistic nonsense until McCabe pulls the trigger.

He may not have had the financial backing that he / we expected, but he has brought in some right poor players. He has also managed to make existing players worse. We have demonstrably gone backwards during his tenure.

A very sad state of affairs to us all, to have to contemplate this as another season bites the dust. But I don't think he should stay. He doesn't deserve to.

Adkins was the long term plan not a quick fix. Public pronouncement of ambitions are not the same as the private, realistic expectations the board hold. You'll never hear our PR people saying we have to cut costs and realistically promotion is a pipe dream. The manager has to mirror their "public" line. If the board sack Adkins how long do you think it should take to turn this squad around and achieve automatic promotion? I'd say its a two year job, minimum, regardless of manager. Unless there's huge investment of course.

 

[mosbolad]

Oh Nigel...

I'm with Nigel. I think if we win Saturday it's all back on!

Adkins in!

Come on Blades.........

 

[Pollingtonblade]

I'm with Nigel. I think if we win Saturday it's all back on!

Adkins in!

Come on Blades.........

Think he's been out with that druggie scouser all afternoon

 

[Sean Thornton]

Think he's been out with that druggie scouser all afternoon

Adkins or WHF?

 

[bartman]

You are joking . Cotterill is only good for getting a team out of league 1 and would do a good job at it. We need a manager who can get us out of league 1 into the premiership.



UTB

Don't agree. Let's get out of this division first and worry about any higher when we have done that. Cotterill would make sense although probably not popular.

 

[Drunk blade]

I'm with Nigel. I think if we win Saturday it's all back on!

Adkins in!

Come on Blades.........

It's actually 4 homes games left, mid table in league 1 and the manager doesn't even know how many home games we've got left ffs

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Don't agree. Let's get out of this division first and worry about any higher when we have done that. Cotterill would make sense although probably not popular.

bartman , I was being sarcastic. As you say lets get out of this division first .

It was comment made way back by the board that Adkins is the man to lead us to the promise land . Bloke seems to be struggling even at first base , but the mitigating circumstances are that the players are not his team and the fans don't help or understand .

UTB

 

[United Aren't Back.]

On what do you base that?

The frequent publicity afforded to McNulty, Adams, McGahey and Baxter, all behaving like cunts repeatedly this season.
The lack of any team discipline, cohesion, will to work, every fucking team to play us this season, all they need do is press, pass, pepper Long with long distance shots and likelihood is that team will beat us. It's like watching 11 total strangers every game. That's Adkins fault.

 

[Gordon cowans]

Its cloughs team........hes had no backing........his record at other clubs was good!.......a man who watches the same matches as me & continues to play hammond or even worse is thinking(maybe) gettin him permanent simply hasnt a clue.
We in a horrific situation but clueless nige isn't our man and im confident this compo we are terrified to part with will be gone by xmas anyway,we are just delaying the inevitable

 

[PeteBlade]

The frequent publicity afforded to McNulty, Adams, McGahey and Baxter, all behaving like cunts repeatedly this season.
The lack of any team discipline, cohesion, will to work, every fucking team to play us this season, all they need do is press, pass, pepper Long with long distance shots and likelihood is that team will beat us. It's like watching 11 total strangers every game. That's Adkins fault.

You think Adkins publically talking about disciplining plays proves there's a lack of discipline?

 

[mosbolad]

It's actually 4 homes games left, mid table in league 1 and the manager doesn't even know how many home games we've got left ffs

Are you drunk, Drunk Blade?

Unless something has changed one of the play off games will be at home before we make the long trek to Wembley.

So that's 5, FIVE, home games just as Nigel said!!!

Oh...FFS.....

 

[Cutbush City Limits]

Would this thread even exist if Billy, Che, or even Flynn had put away very good chances.

He stays and rebuilds the club.

All evidence is McCabe has bought into the long term (now there's an idea) plan.

Better idea is performance targets for next season.

Would you still feel the same if we are mid table at Christmas?

If not, ask yourself what have you seen from Adkins that makes you think we will be top 2 by Christmas, then ask yourself if he is actually worth another 8 months further damaging the club we love.

 

[Grappler]

Just seen this on Twtter


Neil Warnock, asked tonight on Sheffield Live if he'd ever return to #sufc, said: "You never say never about anything. It's a great club."

 

[Isar]

Just seen this on Twtter


Neil Warnock, asked tonight on Sheffield Live if he'd ever return to #sufc, said: "You never say never about anything. It's a great club."

We could do worst....................

 

[Chezzy Blades]

Driving up the M11 last night, gutted that yet another season in this division is all but assured, only to read on Twitter Adkins comment that 'It was a good game from our point of view' (I initially thought Giddings had typed it out of context until I heard the interview and realised he hadn't) has pushed me over the edge and into the Adkins out camp.

It might not be the most rational decision to take at this stage, but I'm sick of the sound of his voice and the dire football we're all enduring week in, week out.

I saw his tweet tonight where he (or his PA) can't even count the number of home games we have left properly and it's just fucked me off even more. 'A Blade never gives up', he wants to tell that to some of the gash we have out on the pitch.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

If its any consolation. . . . . . We might be able to get a half-decent price on us at the bookies next season.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Oh dear

I found it straight away. . . . . But I was already looking for "useless twat"

 

[Coily]

A very well put response to Adkins' tweet in the circumstances.

 

[Esablade]

Sack Adkins. Get new manager. 'Assess squad over summer'. Get new staff in. ' Sell someone because 'we can't stop them leaving'. Miss out on targets. Get some shit loans in.

Sack new manager.

Repeat 2017/18.


Leave Adkins in. Sell someone because 'we can't stop them leaving'. Miss out on targets we've been tracking since March 2016. Get some shit loans in.

Finally sinks in with fans that it doesn't matter who is managing the club when the board need to go.

..alternately, Adkins isn't shit, he sorts it, the board back him and we go up...

It's 'win-win'

UTB!

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Would you still feel the same if we are mid table at Christmas?

If not, ask yourself what have you seen from Adkins that makes you think we will be top 2 by Christmas, then ask yourself if he is actually worth another 8 months further damaging the club we love.

I've seen plenty from Adkins that makes me think he's the man for the job.

Further damaging presumes he's damaged the club in the first place - I think he's doing the exact opposite.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Just seen this on Twtter


Neil Warnock, asked tonight on Sheffield Live if he'd ever return to #sufc, said: "You never say never about anything. It's a great club."

I like Warnock but here he should shut up and stop shit stirring.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Whilst I can fully understand why people want Adkins out, I don't understand why people think replacing him will be some sort of panacea.

I read the same comments about Blackwell, Wilson and Clough as I am now doing about Adkins and each time there was a belief that sacking the manager would bring about an improvement. The only time it worked was with Weir, who was truly inept.

Maybe sacking Adkins will work and maybe it won't, I don't know but our past form suggests it won't. Isn't the clamour for sacking him as much about punishing him for our shit, disappointing, hurtful season as it is the belief that we can bring in someone who can turn us around and get us up?

People are now going on about Parkinson and Brown but they've been given time to take their clubs to where they are. And neither will get sacked if the clubs don't get promoted.

Adkins needs to go, fuckin clueless.

Even bigger problem is the clown who picks the replacement.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

sacking manager after manager has been the single factor in our inability to go up.

Every year we fail, we sack whichever poor bastard has the job and roll the dice again. Manager No. 284648 comes in and has to deal with a mish mash of players bought in under the reigns of the previous three, none of which form a team but rather a collective of individuals because they've been bought in by various different blokes to fit with whatever the previous blokes were in the process of building before the rug was pulled with 30% of the job done. He has to rebuild, isn't given the time, gets sacked and we're back at square one again.

We now have a watershed moment whereby we can have a clear out, allow the bloke we've currently got to actually have a stab at doing it his way without the shackles of contracted players he doesn't want or need but has to crowbar in because nothing else is available or affordable due to the aforementioned unwanted players chewing up the playing budget.

This season has been wank. There is no sugar coating that and Adkins has to shoulder the blame for that. Some of his signings have been poor but I don't blame him for turning to his old pals when he's surrounded by inexperience, inability or, if rumours are believed, disruptive attitudes splitting the camp. Hammond, Woolford et al are sticking plasters to stem the bleeding before the summer surgery.

Can we please, just for once, let a manager have a bit of time to have a proper go, his way, with a team full of his players, before we decide he's been a failure? Or do we just keep going around the same circles that have failed for the past half decade?

If your answer to that is 'no' ask yourself if we'd have been better of sticking with Clough, or Wilson before him? Perhaps the only one we were correct to sack, with hindsight, was Wier. Sacking hasn't worked before, and it won't work now.

He'd fucked up before we kicked a ball - needed two c/h's - tough game footie but he should have gone before the end of August.


We never had a chance this year.

 

[Finnieston]

No it hasn't. Hiring crap managers has been the single most significant factor:

Speed - appointed with no experience whatsoever to manage a Championship club.

Adams - out of his depth two levels above where he was doing ok. We actually overlooked Eddie Howe to give it to him!

Wilson - fresh off the back of guiding Swindon to relegation from the league we'd just been relegated to. Had 3 chances to build an Evans contingency and chose a crock (Hoskins), a spent force (Beattie) and an untried youth (O'Halloran)

Clough - in order to secure promotion hired a bloke who had never managed a league promotion at all. He might just manage it on JFH's coat tails.

Adkins - about the only one that made some sense. Been promoted before from this division more than once. We can't have studied his time at Reading much to have realised what a spent force he is.

It's making poor recruitment decisions which costs us not the realisation when disappointing results transpire and we eventually acknowledged we got the wrong guy.

We studied his time at Southampton and Scunthorpe to see what a success he was. Ide laugh my socks off on here if he was sacked and got success in his next job.
Cut the bloke some slack and give him some time to turn it around you might be pleasently suprised. He gave everyone a clean slate which takes time Had no money as such for good players and tried to get promotion first time inearound,bearing in mind that a lot had played whilst injured from the year before and returned still injured. He then had to get fit and then try and pick a settled side. You cant build a club for promotion in these circumstances and if you could that manager would be employed by Heineken elsewhere not at United. That player manager has a lot to answer for.

 

[Bladesman]

We studied his time at Southampton and Scunthorpe to see what a success he was. Ide laugh my socks off on here if he was sacked and got success in his next job.
Cut the bloke some slack and give him some time to turn it around you might be pleasently suprised. He gave everyone a clean slate which takes time Had no money as such for good players and tried to get promotion first time inearound,bearing in mind that a lot had played whilst injured from the year before and returned still injured. He then had to get fit and then try and pick a settled side. You cant build a club for promotion in these circumstances and if you could that manager would be employed by Heineken elsewhere not at United. That player manager has a lot to answer for.

Injuries have been a major problem and even the ones we have sent out on loan have come back broken.

I think Adkins has been surprised at how unfit most of our squad actually are.

 

[Cutbush City Limits]

I've seen plenty from Adkins that makes me think he's the man for the job.

Further damaging presumes he's damaged the club in the first place - I think he's doing the exact opposite.

I'm genuinely curious WHF, what is it that you've seen that I've not.....what's in your 'Plenty"

 

[Deadbat]

I've seen nothing sadly and am perplexed by this 'plenty to think he's the man for the job.'

I still want it work for the guy. He does seem a nice guy (slightly bonkers and ridiculously positive to point of being deluded) but frankly cannot ignore the facts that are staring us all in the face as much as many dont want another change.

We are getting worse week on week, plummeting further down league week on week and can only beat dross like Oldham and Crewe. Play the good teams and we are toast. As I say tactically hopeless, results useless, coaching useless, motivation useless, performances useless, signings useless (except Sharp), interviews deluded. Only thing I could say and that is a stretch.He is slowly clearing out the dross and that is about it. Took him 9 months too long.

Big few weeks for Adkins. A run of more defeats and a further slide to the bottom 7 or 8 and I fear for him.

 

[shrubbery]

I've seen nothing sadly and am perplexed by this 'plenty to think he's the man for the job.'

I still want it work for the guy. He does seem a nice guy (slightly bonkers and ridiculously positive to point of being deluded) but frankly cannot ignore the facts that are staring us all in the face as much as many dont want another change.

We are getting worse week on week, plummeting further down league week on week and can only beat dross like Oldham and Crewe. Play the good teams and we are toast. As I say tactically hopeless, results useless, coaching useless, motivation useless, performances useless, signings useless (except Sharp), interviews deluded. Only thing I could say and that is a stretch.He is slowly clearing out the dross and that is about it. Took him 9 months too long.

Big few weeks for Adkins. A run of more defeats and a further slide to the bottom 7 or 8 and I fear for him.

Couldn't agree more. What has anybody seen that is positive from what Nige has brought to the table this year apart from offloading some shite players (whilst bringing in even more shite ones on loan)?

I am genuinely interested to hear what the positives are because I see nothing but a big steaming pile of disappointment.