Time for a Director of Football

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How about setting a budget, no point mentioning names till you know what you could pay him, or her

£50,000, £100,000 a year plus bits and pieces ??

How much for this DoF ?
 

Terry Robbinson gets my vote.

An eye for a player (Shelton / Carney / Hendrie)...

contacts in the game so we don't get lumbered with any sicknotes (Naysmith)

..drives a hard bargain (Henderson / Evans)

and doesn't give a toss about SUFC to boot so no sentimental Baldey Blade signings, (apart from Sharp when he thought he'd dropped a bollock letting him go so he was bought back quickly at stupid price so maybe nobody would notice).

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alcoblade said:
My problem is not with the role as such, it's more why it can't be done by others already there. If they are that incompetent, sack them.
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This is true. I do think it's something we need, if only to:

a) have someone oversee a playing philosophy, even if it's as simple as "play attacking football, ideally looking to use what the academy is producing"
b) have this continue from manager to manager. Players are contracted to SUFC, not to Adkins, Clough etc, and are still there once the incumbent manager leaves, this would likely have stopped Clough bringing all his mates in (something which Adkins is also doing to some extent)
c) oversee scouting externally from the management/coaching. If Adkins wants a centre back (which should be obvious, but then again...) then the DoF/scouting team can come up with (realistic) suggestions to which Adkins can give his opinions and also give his own thoughts on additions to the squad.

I have no clue if we have anyone within the club as it is that could do this. I'd guess not. I also don't know who'd be a good candidate. It'd probably some analytics kid, rather than looking for an ex-player/coach just for the sake of it
 
jt64 said:
This is true. I do think it's something we need, if only to:

a) have someone oversee a playing philosophy, even if it's as simple as "play attacking football, ideally looking to use what the academy is producing"
b) have this continue from manager to manager. Players are contracted to SUFC, not to Adkins, Clough etc, and are still there once the incumbent manager leaves, this would likely have stopped Clough bringing all his mates in (something which Adkins is also doing to some extent)
c) oversee scouting externally from the management/coaching. If Adkins wants a centre back (which should be obvious, but then again...) then the DoF/scouting team can come up with (realistic) suggestions to which Adkins can give his opinions and also give his own thoughts on additions to the squad.

I have no clue if we have anyone within the club as it is that could do this. I'd guess not. I also don't know who'd be a good candidate. It'd probably some analytics kid, rather than looking for an ex-player/coach just for the sake of it
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We get the basics wrong. In the last JTW we found 2 MILLION pounds for a player who specialises in the easiest to cover position on the field. One year later we can't bring anyone in to strengthen an average third division team, clearly because finances are tight.

Our income has remained steady and predictable. It does not take a director of football to tell you that that is fucking madness.

UTB
 
alcoblade said:
We get the basics wrong. In the last JTW we found 2 MILLION pounds for a player who specialises in the easiest to cover position on the field. One year later we can't bring anyone in to strengthen an average third division team, clearly because finances are tight.

Our income has remained steady and predictable. It does not take a director of football to tell you that that is fucking madness.

UTB
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So what do we have at present as a sanity filter (other than a broken fax machine) between manager and chequebook? You don't think that someone saying to Clough "You know, I really can't sign off on two million quid worth of right back when you've just told our only two centre backs to fuck off to Port Vale and Tranmere, maybe you ought to think again" might have been useful?

That said, if we did get one he'd probably end up saying "You know what, you're right, we can just move our two million pound right back into the centre and play Basham there as well, what could possibly go wrong"
 
jt64 said:
So what do we have at present as a sanity filter (other than a broken fax machine) between manager and chequebook? You don't think that someone saying to Clough "You know, I really can't sign off on two million quid worth of right back when you've just told our only two centre backs to fuck off to Port Vale and Tranmere, maybe you ought to think again" might have been useful?

That said, if we did get one he'd probably end up saying "You know what, you're right, we can just move our two million pound right back into the centre and play Basham there as well, what could possibly go wrong"
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I do think it would be useful. My problem is I think I could pen a set of rules in an hour, and spend 30 minutes a month checking actions off against it. I can't see why McCabe couldn't do that himself. I'll do it for free.

If people who are close to the finances can't spot the basic mistakes we make, then they need to sell up, not piss even more money down the drain on an enormous third division club that still loses lots of money, despite trebbling the gates of its rivals.

Close the academy and save a million or two a year, to invest in positions and players we actually need at the time, not umpteen hopefuls that might come off when you need them the least. There, another free suggestion that you don't need a DOF for.

UTB
 
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I can't believe we're discussing Directors of Football and all these intricate little methods to try and get promotion.

It's not rocket science, get in the right players and you go up. It's division three for god sake.
 
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