Time for a Director of Football

[PeteBlade]

It's been suggested (by others) previously that we could do with a Director of Football.

Someone to act between manager and board that isn't Phipps and that has an idea about football.

Someone to advise on stopping the mistakes Clough apparently made that seem to have set the club back 2 seasons.

Clearly we have a complete lack of footballing common sense, knowledge or nouse at the top, so is it time to bring someone in who has these skills?

Not someone that leaves when a manager leaves, but has a long term role at the club, can advise on transfer, targets, other leagues etc.

Abs before anyone says Warnock, I'd suggest cutting ties with the past, and aiming for someone well respected in the game.

Suggestions?

 

[Tezza1889]

I'd have Paul scholes as a director of football in a heartbeat...

Says it how it is, wouldn't be worried who he upset, and can spot a player a mile off... Never happen though will it...

 

[Sean Thornton]

Sensible reasoned and in my opinion accurate comments on the realities of the position we are in Pete.

Won't get many posts like that today.

 

[axel smeets]

Who is going to pay for this Director of Football? We appear to be skint.

 

[PeteBlade]

Who is going to pay for this Director of Football? We appear to be skint.

According to Jim's statement, the lack of signings weren't resource related, so there's money available.

Unless he wasn't telling the truth?

For me, he could also take Jim's wage.

 

[SwissBlade]

It's been suggested (by others) previously that we could do with a Director of Football.

Someone to act between manager and board that isn't Phipps and that has an idea about football.

Someone to advise on stopping the mistakes Clough apparently made that seem to have set the club back 2 seasons.

Clearly we have a complete lack of footballing common sense, knowledge or nouse at the top, so is it time to bring someone in who has these skills?

Not someone that leaves when a manager leaves, but has a long term role at the club, can advise on transfer, targets, other leagues etc.

Abs before anyone says Warnock, I'd suggest cutting ties with the past, and aiming for someone well respected in the game.

Suggestions?

Completely agree, I've mentioned this a few times as well. We need someone to come in on the football side and get rid of this transfer committee

Paul scholes would be a great shout

 

[axel smeets]

According to Jim's statement, the lack of signings weren't resource related, so there's money available.

Unless he wasn't telling the truth?

For me, he could also take Jim's wage.

If it comes from Jim then, it must be true. No doubt about it. There is clearly money available, as demonstrated by our transfer window dealings.

 

[Kev Gee]

More money on non playing staff when we are broke? Nice idea but cant see it happening.

 

[Sean Thornton]

According to Jim's statement, the lack of signings weren't resource related, so there's money available.

Unless he wasn't telling the truth?

For me, he could also take Jim's wage.

Don't think he's paid by the club

 

[INTERUNITED]

We've had money for the past 3 transfer windows and spent...........nothing.

Now call me a cynic but.................I don't really think we've got any money or intention of signing any players!!

 

[PeteBlade]

If it comes from Jim then, it must be true. No doubt about it. There is clearly money available, as demonstrated by our transfer window dealings.

Your shit attitude is directed at the wrong area.
My point is the same as yours.

I think someone like this could offer that much to the club it would be worth the gamble.

 

[axel smeets]

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Your shit attitude is directed at the wrong area.
My point is the same as yours.

I think someone like this could offer that much to the club it would be worth the gamble.

You still don't say where the money is going to come from to pay for it?

Jackanory idea.

 

[Ricky]

McCabe won't listen to any calls for a DoF - his ego won't allow it. He has to think of these things himself.

FFS it doesn't even have to be anyone particularly good or expensive to make a considerable positive difference.

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You still don't say where the money is going to come from to pay for it?

Jackanory idea.

Where's the money going to come from for the next player contract we hand out?

Higdon's just left hasn't he. A DoF wouldn't be paid more than he was on.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yes!

Let's get someone not that good in on the cheap.

Jesus.

 

[Ben_1982]

I've been saying this since the summer, NA has no issue working with one as he has done at both Southampton and Reading.

I thought Warnock might be a good choice- knew how beneficial it was having Derek Dooley there when he was manager but he likes the spotlight too much.

I'd go for Glenn Hoddle or a foreign guy who has contacts in Europe

 

[axel smeets]

It is a bad idea for me, unworkable and costly. We talk about the early McCabe years - 99-07 - when he seemed to get most of the decisions correct - it is because he had a good manager, and people in the board room who knew what they were doing.

Since 2007, he has had neither, the Tevez affair I think drained some of his enthusiasm, his pockets became less deep anyway as the financial crisis hit the property markets in 2008/9, and he seemed to take his eye of the ball and let people like Robinson make crucial decisions for the football club.

If you have a good manager and people at the top with their eye on the ball, you do not need a Director of Football. Show me one example of a football club where this model has worked?

 

[Slim Man]

I like Jim, I don't want him to go. He's a good Bloke and businessman but you need more than that to be a chairman. Stick him on the financial side.

Fuck McCabe's side of the 'co-chairman' bullshit too. Appoint 1 proper bloke to do the job who knows football back to front, well respected and straight talking.
Enough of Kevin McCabe's 'jobs for the boys' world.

 

[PeteBlade]

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You still don't say where the money is going to come from to pay for it?

Jackanory idea.

Do I look like the Company Accountant?

It's not that much of an outlandish idea if the likes of Peterborough have one.

But hey, let's just carry on as we are. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Liaminho9]

We've had money for the past 3 transfer windows and spent...........nothing.

Now call me a cynic but.................I don't really think we've got any money or intention of signing any players!!

12 Months ago... Brayford?
6 Months ago... Sharp?

We did well to get both of those for free

 

[axel smeets]

Do I look like the Company Accountant?

It's not that much of an outlandish idea if the likes of Peterborough have one.

But hey, let's just carry on as we are. What could possibly go wrong?

I've no idea what you look like. You might be fit as fuck and worth one for all I know, or you might look like an Ewok.

I think we will carry on as we are, because I don't think there is the money or the desire to make major changes at this football club. We are a rudderless ship sailing towards the rocks, and a deep malaise has set in amongst the supporters and at the top level.

 

[Ben_1982]

It is a bad idea for me, unworkable and costly. We talk about the early McCabe years - 99-07 - when he seemed to get most of the decisions correct - it is because he had a good manager, and people in the board room who knew what they were doing.

Since 2007, he has had neither, the Tevez affair I think drained some of his enthusiasm, his pockets became less deep anyway as the financial crisis hit the property markets in 2008/9, and he seemed to take his eye of the ball and let people like Robinson make crucial decisions for the football club.

If you have a good manager and people at the top with their eye on the ball, you do not need a Director of Football. Show me one example of a football club where this model has worked?

Bullshit. It went tits up when Derek wasn't there any longer

 

[INTERUNITED]

12 Months ago... Brayford?
6 Months ago... Sharp?

We did well to get both of those for free

Erm weren't these covered by the Maguire and Murphy Fees??

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I've never been convinced about this role, if a club needs one it means that either the manager (and his team) doesn't know what he's doing (or can't be trusted) or there isn't sufficient football nous on the Board. Both of course could be true but there should be enough 'football' people at the club for this not to be required.

 

[axel smeets]

Bullshit. It went tits up when Derek wasn't there any longer

I think that is the point I was making. Dooley retired, if I recall, around April 2006, as we had been promoted to the top flight. Dooley was in the board room - mostly - between 99-06. He was not, from 06/07 onwards, and of course this is when the decline set in, with the post - Tevez decision making that has culminated in 6 consecutive seasons in Division Three.

 

[Chali 2na]

Great post Pete, I completely agree. I think there's a definite need for a 'football man' who is independent from the manager.

I don't hate Jim Phipps: to me he's just a mouthpiece, however I think there's a problem with someone who is new to football and not based in the area heading the ship.

If a DoF was to come in, I'd love to see him implement a strategical transfer policy: 2 players in every position: 1 experienced, developed pro, complemented by a young, eager under study to act as cover (initially).
I think a well thought out and clear "football philosophy" would be useful so we know where we stand. How can we expect to progress when we keep moving the goal posts, it seems every manager we've had has a different style, which often makes the old players redundant, forcing a revolution every time. Look at Swansea or Southampton (2 of the best run clubs in the country) they picked a philosophy and made sure that any managerial appointment suited the team's style.

I suppose all the above is wishful thinking though and I'll get what I'm given.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

For me, he could also take Jim's wage.

He doesn't get paid by the club I don't think - so the coffers would have to be raided for a DoF.

 

[Blade56]

Another HRH crony watching over his interests? Another falling out level and expense? Another peace maker and target for the fans? Really?

 

[Liaminho9]

Erm weren't these covered by the Maguire and Murphy Fees??

They may well have been, but claiming "We've had money for the past 3 transfer windows and spent...........nothing." is a little unfair to the club.

 

[BushBlade]

It is a bad idea for me, unworkable and costly. We talk about the early McCabe years - 99-07 - when he seemed to get most of the decisions correct - it is because he had a good manager, and people in the board room who knew what they were doing.

Since 2007, he has had neither, the Tevez affair I think drained some of his enthusiasm, his pockets became less deep anyway as the financial crisis hit the property markets in 2008/9, and he seemed to take his eye of the ball and let people like Robinson make crucial decisions for the football club.

If you have a good manager and people at the top with their eye on the ball, you do not need a Director of Football. Show me one example of a football club where this model has worked?

Man City
West Brom (particularly under Dan Ashworth)

I could also point out a few where it hasn't. It very dependent on getting the right person in. Not something we seem good at.

 

[axel smeets]

Man City
West Brom (particularly under Dan Ashworth)

I could also point out a few where it hasn't. It very dependent on getting the right person in. Not something we seem good at.

I will concede the Dan Ashworth model at West Brom, it served them very well for a time, and he has now moved on to work for the FA, I believe.

Manchester City? Having owners who are dollar trillionaires and being able to lure managers with Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich on their CV's will perhaps help?