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I may not get much support on this thread but this is my honest opinion.
Accepted that a summariser gives his opinion on the game I think Edwards is far too critical of blades performances.It's always it s this it should be that but rarely gives credit where due,colchester is a good example.3 away games in a week with the first against man utd in a big big FA cup game with the mental and physical demands incurred. Followed by a tough game (Wigan) away with a remarkable 3-3 draw also a very demanding game.I wasn't at Colchester but it sounded like a team that in the 2nd half was running on empty(under them circumstances a great win).As Edwards is an ex pro he would be expected to show some insight as to the demands these three games brought,No!! he was not very complimentary and lucky to win.,very disappointed in him..
In my book the summariser should support the club ,I don't think Edwards does (yes give a fair assessment but be positive) is he in it just for the cash,it would be great if he got excited when we score or win a match
a supporter would react he doasnt (that big goose who pigs nicknamed bamby goes berserk when they score a bit of that would be great).He doasnt have the passion of a supporter could radio sheffield find one
(or could we recommend one).
It might sound as though I don't like Edwards but I don't know him as a person so I can't comment on that,
but he was a great scorer for us and I enjoyed his time playing for us.
 

I may not get much support on this thread but this is my honest opinion.
Accepted that a summariser gives his opinion on the game I think Edwards is far too critical of blades performances.It's always it s this it should be that but rarely gives credit where due,colchester is a good example.3 away games in a week with the first against man utd in a big big FA cup game with the mental and physical demands incurred. Followed by a tough game (Wigan) away with a remarkable 3-3 draw also a very demanding game.I wasn't at Colchester but it sounded like a team that in the 2nd half was running on empty(under them circumstances a great win).As Edwards is an ex pro he would be expected to show some insight as to the demands these three games brought,No!! he was not very complimentary and lucky to win.,very disappointed in him..
In my book the summariser should support the club ,I don't think Edwards does (yes give a fair assessment but be positive) is he in it just for the cash,it would be great if he got excited when we score or win a match
a supporter would react he doasnt (that big goose who pigs nicknamed bamby goes berserk when they score a bit of that would be great).He doasnt have the passion of a supporter could radio sheffield find one
(or could we recommend one).
It might sound as though I don't like Edwards but I don't know him as a person so I can't comment on that,
but he was a great scorer for us and I enjoyed his time playing for us.
Sorry this thread should be on general chat
 
I may not get much support on this thread but this is my honest opinion.
Accepted that a summariser gives his opinion on the game I think Edwards is far too critical of blades performances.It's always it s this it should be that but rarely gives credit where due,colchester is a good example.3 away games in a week with the first against man utd in a big big FA cup game with the mental and physical demands incurred. Followed by a tough game (Wigan) away with a remarkable 3-3 draw also a very demanding game.I wasn't at Colchester but it sounded like a team that in the 2nd half was running on empty(under them circumstances a great win).As Edwards is an ex pro he would be expected to show some insight as to the demands these three games brought,No!! he was not very complimentary and lucky to win.,very disappointed in him..
In my book the summariser should support the club ,I don't think Edwards does (yes give a fair assessment but be positive) is he in it just for the cash,it would be great if he got excited when we score or win a match
a supporter would react he doasnt (that big goose who pigs nicknamed bamby goes berserk when they score a bit of that would be great).He doasnt have the passion of a supporter could radio sheffield find one
(or could we recommend one).
It might sound as though I don't like Edwards but I don't know him as a person so I can't comment on that,
but he was a great scorer for us and I enjoyed his time playing for us.
Spot on Finlay, one of the club legends, and he is so negative towards us.
He influences the brain dead, who ring Praise and Grumble on a Saturday evening to slag us off, and have not even been!

How can people who haven`t been to the game, ring a phone in and comment on it?
 
At times Keith appears very blunt, but he tells it how he sees it, not neccesarily how we want it. He is there for his opinion as an ex-player, who only wants the best for The Blades. I know another ex-player who often sees things differently to me, and we have both been to the same game.
I much perfer Keith to that "Screaming Buffoon" that is 'Trotted Out' when the pigs are on..
 
At times Keith appears very blunt, but he tells it how he sees it, not neccesarily how we want it. He is there for his opinion as an ex-player, who only wants the best for The Blades. I know another ex-player who often sees things differently to me, and we have both been to the same game.
I much perfer Keith to that "Screaming Buffoon" that is 'Trotted Out' when the pigs are on..
John Pearson is a complete embarrassment, a joke.

But I think at times Edwards dosen`t understand the game, probably means well, don`t think hes got an agenda, just naive in his comments.
 
If you ever get the chance to go and see one of his talks with TC then you will see a different side to him. He tells it how he sees it and although he doesn't come across on the radio... he is a very funny man. Him and TC have some great stories.

Don't judge him on just his radio coverage.
 
Keith Edwards is my all time favourite Blades player and as far as I'm concerned can say anything he damn well pleases.
He was my hero too.

Favourite goal, Bristol Rovers at home, when he dummied the keeper in front of the Kop, and put it in the empty net.
I was a young un right at the front, what a moment, what a goalscorer.
 
And I don't agree that the summariser should support the club. This is not America. We want objectivity.

I also was not there but Fwiw Revolution snr said that we were shocking in the second half even by this seasons standards, so I think it was worthy of comment.
 
I may not get much support on this thread but this is my honest opinion.
Accepted that a summariser gives his opinion on the game I think Edwards is far too critical of blades performances.It's always it s this it should be that but rarely gives credit where due,colchester is a good example.3 away games in a week with the first against man utd in a big big FA cup game with the mental and physical demands incurred. Followed by a tough game (Wigan) away with a remarkable 3-3 draw also a very demanding game.I wasn't at Colchester but it sounded like a team that in the 2nd half was running on empty(under them circumstances a great win).As Edwards is an ex pro he would be expected to show some insight as to the demands these three games brought,No!! he was not very complimentary and lucky to win.,very disappointed in him..
In my book the summariser should support the club ,I don't think Edwards does (yes give a fair assessment but be positive) is he in it just for the cash,it would be great if he got excited when we score or win a match
a supporter would react he doasnt (that big goose who pigs nicknamed bamby goes berserk when they score a bit of that would be great).He doasnt have the passion of a supporter could radio sheffield find one
(or could we recommend one).
It might sound as though I don't like Edwards but I don't know him as a person so I can't comment on that,
but he was a great scorer for us and I enjoyed his time playing for us.

Rubbish !
Why do you want a summariser to be positive - he says as he sees !
Whilst I wasn't at Colchester, my lad was and reported back that the second half was very poor indeed and that we were very, very fortunate to come out of the game with all three points !
When I listen to RS commentary I want it to reflect the actual game, not what we want to hear - I get fed up with the manager coming out week in week out with rubbish - I want to hear it as it is !
I have enough issues with the manager telling the supporters that we don't understand the game and we don't see what some players are trying to do ! I don't want to be treated like a Know Nowt Numptie by the manager or to be fed sugar coated information by the commentator / summariser regarding how they are playing !!!
 
But I think at times Edwards dosen`t understand the game, probably means well, don`t think hes got an agenda, just naive in his comments.

Keith Edwards was a professional footballer for the best part of twenty years, and pretty successful at that with over 300 goals. How you can state that he doesn't understand the game with that level of experience beggars belief!

Let's get this right here, we were getting the run around in the second half by a team who hadn't won in 12 games and were second bottom of the table. How do you expect anyone to be positive about that? These are professional athletes, so playing three games in a week should not be an issue. I listened to the full commentary, and Edwards stated that this was a game we could win comfortably if we pushed on. But instead we sat back, conceded and were under the cosh for the most part until we managed to get a winner against the run of play.

His other gripes were that the quality of balls into the strikers wasn't good enough, and that our midfield don't support the attack and instead are happy sitting back and keeping things tight. And that has been the case for much of the season, so in my view Edwards is justified (and paid) to voice these opinions.

Leave the happy, happy, aren't we wonderful even though we're 3-0 down shit to the Pigs. if it's good, then praise, but if it's crap then Edwards has a duty to the listener to say it's crap.
 
Keith Edwards was a professional footballer for the best part of twenty years, and pretty successful at that with over 300 goals. How you can state that he doesn't understand the game with that level of experience beggars belief!

Let's get this right here, we were getting the run around in the second half by a team who hadn't won in 12 games and were second bottom of the table. How do you expect anyone to be positive about that? These are professional athletes, so playing three games in a week should not be an issue. I listened to the full commentary, and Edwards stated that this was a game we could win comfortably if we pushed on. But instead we sat back, conceded and were under the cosh for the most part until we managed to get a winner against the run of play.

His other gripes were that the quality of balls into the strikers wasn't good enough, and that our midfield don't support the attack and instead are happy sitting back and keeping things tight. And that has been the case for much of the season, so in my view Edwards is justified (and paid) to voice these opinions.

Leave the happy, happy, aren't we wonderful even though we're 3-0 down shit to the Pigs. if it's good, then praise, but if it's crap then Edwards has a duty to the listener to say it's crap.
For me, the fact he always wants us to pour forward, he was a legendary goalscorer, and I think this reflects in his comments.

The defensive side of the game is alien to him.
 
I can never understand the criticism he gets to be honest. Only get to listen infrequently but MOST of the time his comments reflect my view of how we played last time I saw them, with the same faults I saw for myself the week before and the same issues re-occurring.

Now, either the same things ARE happening and he's got it spot on despite what we really want to hear or they are playing far better BUT he's too tied up with what went on the week before and is still complaining about something that isn't really happening.
In all my years of going regularly I have never known us perform completely differently every week so I'm going with the first option as being the norm.

The idea we should have a cheer leading prick like Pearson performing like a twat every week would make sure I never listened to RS again.
 
I remember on the day after Heath quit as our manager in December 1999, Look North asked KE who he thought should be our new manager. KE responded saying that he would take the job and explained how he would change things at the club. At the time he had no coaching qualifications and I thought his response was embarrassing.
 
Kevin Gage is a far better summariser. He is positive and offers genuine insight into the game rather than just bemoaning the fact that it's not like it was in his day.

David Holdsworth is also quite entertaining. He's very scathing but funny with it ("he'd gone to Sainsbury's to buy a chicken!" being used to describe an opposition defender's attempts to stop McNulty (I think) scoring)

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But for all Keith's faults, I've become so accustomed to hearing him comment on our games that I think I'd miss him if he went.
 

I too like Gagey's summaries but I cannot knock KE for his honesty and telling it how it is.
He was one of the best finishers I have ever seen in red and white and, having met him, he is very personable and good value with his stories.

We are shit at the moment - we're in our fifth year in division three FFS and very much looking like it's going to be 6 :o
If it needed sugar coating you'd never get it in yer gob!
 
Whether Keith talks complete sense or complete rubbish is irrelevant in my book. He just talks too much

I tune in to listen to "full match commentary" and get 10 mins of commentary and 80 minutes of our Keith hedging his bets so he can always remind us how he told us so

I'm sure he knows what he's on about, but just wish he'd shut the fk up sometimes and let us hear the match
 
Rather have any pundit telling me exactly what he thinks of the teams performance not sugar coating it. I listen to blades player every game and when KE isn't present the commentator still struggles to fill the time with minute by minute action resorting to reading out texts from exiled Blades. So that tells us the commentator isn't very good or there is little to talk about. Paul Walker was good and still got input from KE or any other pundit during the game. KE can only comment on what he sees and judging by the posts of people who have been he is usually spot on.
 
For me, the fact he always wants us to pour forward, he was a legendary goalscorer, and I think this reflects in his comments.

The defensive side of the game is alien to him.

There is a big difference between pouring forward and midfield supporting the strikers. Turns out, we all too rarely do either. Instead, we sit back, invite pressure and look how well that works out!

I've never heard Edwards state that we have to pour forward and neglect the defence, but you have to be positive in your approach at any level and our midfield have to appreciate that the front two can't be isolated. It's not that both central midfielders need to support, one goes and the other hangs back as opposed to both sitting deep and protecting the back four at all times.
 
30 years since he last wore a United shirt.
25 years since he last kicked a football in a competitive match.

Still commentating on (being paid for) Sheffield United/football as though it's still the same as it was then.

The only thing in common today as was then, playing in Div3.

He'll never sour my appreciation of what he did (at times) for us, but as a commentator on SUFC/football, I have switched off.
 
Football is a simple game and always will be it's over complicated by managers and coaches. Isn't NA favourite phrase "put it in one end and keep out at the other" football in a nut shell it ain't rocket science..
 
There is a big difference between pouring forward and midfield supporting the strikers. Turns out, we all too rarely do either. Instead, we sit back, invite pressure and look how well that works out!

I've never heard Edwards state that we have to pour forward and neglect the defence, but you have to be positive in your approach at any level and our midfield have to appreciate that the front two can't be isolated. It's not that both central midfielders need to support, one goes and the other hangs back as opposed to both sitting deep and protecting the back four at all times.
I am only going on what workmates, and family tell me, I have never heard him live, as I have not missed a game in close to 35 years.

Occasionally I will get in the car, and pick up Sheffield, and my buzz from winning a game will dilute as I listen to Edwards comments, and much worse is people on praise and grumble slagging us off based on Edwards comments.
Not Edwards fault that of course.

Think beating Oldham in the Cup, then listening to the first 3 callers hammering us, who were all Blades, none of whom had been, was the last straw.
 
I may not get much support on this thread but this is my honest opinion.
Accepted that a summariser gives his opinion on the game I think Edwards is far too critical of blades performances.It's always it s this it should be that but rarely gives credit where due,colchester is a good example.3 away games in a week with the first against man utd in a big big FA cup game with the mental and physical demands incurred. Followed by a tough game (Wigan) away with a remarkable 3-3 draw also a very demanding game.I wasn't at Colchester but it sounded like a team that in the 2nd half was running on empty(under them circumstances a great win).As Edwards is an ex pro he would be expected to show some insight as to the demands these three games brought,No!! he was not very complimentary and lucky to win.,very disappointed in him..
In my book the summariser should support the club ,I don't think Edwards does (yes give a fair assessment but be positive) is he in it just for the cash,it would be great if he got excited when we score or win a match
a supporter would react he doasnt (that big goose who pigs nicknamed bamby goes berserk when they score a bit of that would be great).He doasnt have the passion of a supporter could radio sheffield find one
(or could we recommend one).
It might sound as though I don't like Edwards but I don't know him as a person so I can't comment on that,
but he was a great scorer for us and I enjoyed his time playing for us.

I agree Finlay. I couldn't make Colchester (first away game missed since September) so listened to it on Radio Sheff. Got so wound up with his negativity that I had to turn it off half way through the 2nd half.

No problem with him telling it as he sees it but I was beginning to think he might actually be Barney (Sorry Barney ;)). He complains if we don't keep possession and lump it forward but then then complains if we pass it square. It felt like he was complaining for the sake of it.
 
I agree Finlay. I couldn't make Colchester (first away game missed since September) so listened to it on Radio Sheff. Got so wound up with his negativity that I had to turn it off half way through the 2nd half.

No problem with him telling it as he sees it but I was beginning to think he might actually be Barney (Sorry Barney ;)). He complains if we don't keep possession and lump it forward but then then complains if we pass it square. It felt like he was complaining for the sake of it.

I got wound up 2nd half because Colchester were all over United not because of KE. Obviously NA thought the same because he had to change it around. All about opinions though.
 
He complains if we don't keep possession and lump it forward but then then complains if we pass it square. It felt like he was complaining for the sake of it.

Square balls get intercepted
Pumping it up aimlessly to an isolated forward loses possession

So pass it accurately to the feet of the forward and get up to support them.
Run beyond the striker so they can play you in
Score a goal
Repeat

That's all he is saying - and he bangs on about it constantly - cos it's true
 
I got wound up 2nd half because Colchester were all over United not because of KE. Obviously NA thought the same because he had to change it around. All about opinions though.
I got wound up 2nd half because Colchester were all over United not because of KE. Obviously NA thought the same because he had to change it around. All about opinions though.
No one's suggesting that telling it how it is, is wrong, it's the negativity that goes with it how about we were under the cosh 2nd half but a great 3 points that's how I see it. No mention by an ex player about tired legs and minds after a gruelling week he should know all about that if he put a shift in.But then he was dropped more than once by Porterfield for lack of work ethic. As Adkins says forget the performance embrace the points
 

He certainly doesn't do it for the money ,they pay shit all and are only allowed one overnighter a year per club. One of my mates is an ex Chesterfield player who did the same job for them for a while ,until he did 6 games in a row and then they played the pigs at the new ground in the first sell out ,(and he is a pig) and they didn't call him and got John Duncan instead ,but its only about 100 quid ,or it was anyway. John McGovern told us the same , he works for Radio Nottingham ,but hes actually a fan and enjoys free transport and entry to the matches but gets paid peanuts ,maybe Edwards is the same. Don't forget Staton and his mates wont be high earners either ,basic journalists wages for the BBC will be shite.
 

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