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Not really followed Nigel Adkins career very closely. You can't argue with his CV but what are his real strengths. Is he renowned for being a tactical genius or an inspirational motivator. Not really seen much of either this season.
Thankfully he doesn't walk round with a clipboard under his arm like that big daft twat at old trafford. But his excessively positive post match assessments do not reflect what has just happened on the field. Sorry to say it Nige but your recent interviews have had a smell of desperation about them.
Maybe it's time to get the geese dvd out again.
 



He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.

Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
 
CarlosMcblade said:
Not really followed Nigel Adkins career very closely. You can't argue with his CV but what are his real strengths. Is he renowned for being a tactical genius or an inspirational motivator. Not really seen much of either this season.
Thankfully he doesn't walk round with a clipboard under his arm like that big daft twat at old trafford. But his excessively positive post match assessments do not reflect what has just happened on the field. Sorry to say it Nige but your recent interviews have had a smell of desperation about them.
Maybe it's time to get the geese dvd out again.
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Nice try Barney.. Nice try.
 
Barney said:
He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.

Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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#peakBarney

..again
 
Barney said:
He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.

Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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Works both ways for me.

You and the nonsense you post on here is pretty unbearable for me and many others.
 
Barney said:
He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.

Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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Adkins inherits a good Southampton squad = bad manager

Adkins inherits a shite Blades squad = bad manager.

Cut the bloke some slack
 
Barney said:
He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.


Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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First para I completely agree, its all too clichéd and talking theoretically. He makes a huge point about Team Spirit, its almost as if there is none, but he has to make such an issue of it.


I had to laugh at his post Wigan comments, talking of how this could be the kick start for the season… in mid Jan.


I like the guy, don’t get me wrong, but he’s done too much PR and he’s almost American in his overly friendly approach to the Media. Of course this helps to keep them on side so that local radio and TV don’t give him a hard time.


The first comments I liked (although I couldn’t listen to them) were the post Man U comments about recovery. What I liked with Clough was his openness on some of the coaching and pre match prep. I couldn’t care less if they get on, if they like each other, if Hammond is a nice bloke, I’d rather see the results and performances on the pitch proving that something is right.


So its rare I listen to much of what he says, especially about geese and the Art of War. Footballing wise, he’s still got a long way to go to prove his point works at United. I don’t care about Scunny, S’hampton, Reading or anyone else, that was all irrelevant when he started the job here


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Maybe he has inherited a squad of 40 odd footballers that is top heavy with mediocre journeymen, and younger players with an over-inflated sense of self worth. The he has to try and fashion some sort of promotion winning side out of it all.
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He has inherited a squad as you say, but its one which he gave clean slates to instead of shipping out many of them. He’s not to blame for them being here when he arrived, but he’s got to take responsibility for many of them still being here and many being very comfortable, when in reality they all need to be concerned for their contracts.


And to top it all, rather than go against the tide and change the ‘mediocre journeymen’ approach, he’s added to it!


It’d be interesting to see what the average age of the starting 11 is today, compared to the side that ended the season at Swindon and the two that played Spurs and Southampton.


We can certainly say that he’s not brought in any pace, if anything he’s restricted pace by bringing slower/ less energetic players in.
 
SwissBlade said:
First para I completely agree, its all too clichéd and talking theoretically. He makes a huge point about Team Spirit, its almost as if there is none, but he has to make such an issue of it.


I had to laugh at his post Wigan comments, talking of how this could be the kick start for the season… in mid Jan.


I like the guy, don’t get me wrong, but he’s done too much PR and he’s almost American in his overly friendly approach to the Media. Of course this helps to keep them on side so that local radio and TV don’t give him a hard time.


The first comments I liked (although I couldn’t listen to them) were the post Man U comments about recovery. What I liked with Clough was his openness on some of the coaching and pre match prep. I couldn’t care less if they get on, if they like each other, if Hammond is a nice bloke, I’d rather see the results and performances on the pitch proving that something is right.


So its rare I listen to much of what he says, especially about geese and the Art of War. Footballing wise, he’s still got a long way to go to prove his point works at United. I don’t care about Scunny, S’hampton, Reading or anyone else, that was all irrelevant when he started the job here





He has inherited a squad as you say, but its one which he gave clean slates to instead of shipping out many of them. He’s not to blame for them being here when he arrived, but he’s got to take responsibility for many of them still being here and many being very comfortable, when in reality they all need to be concerned for their contracts.


And to top it all, rather than go against the tide and change the ‘mediocre journeymen’ approach, he’s added to it!


It’d be interesting to see what the average age of the starting 11 is today, compared to the side that ended the season at Swindon and the two that played Spurs and Southampton.


We can certainly say that he’s not brought in any pace, if anything he’s restricted pace by bringing slower/ less energetic players in.
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Bang on. Not to blow my own trumpet but I called it as it happened, giving the ridiculous amount of time he did with the clean slates set us back before we had even started. Getting people out, we've managed to shift a few recently, why does it have to come months late? I can only assume he works a few months behind everyone else.

You need to sign young and athletic players hungry to better themselves, and that needed to happen more than ever as he arrived. He's gone against it.

I think we most will remember how we felt after the Swindon game, I'm pretty sure there was a unanimous agreement on the first priority position needing to be filled with 2 bodies at the minimum. I'll go ahead and call it that the majority on this board would have bet very good money on 2 central defenders being through the door by August the 8th. It was blatantly ignored for 2 months, and only realy thought about after one of the most supporter-pressurised signings I think I might have ever seen. Then, even after then he opts for an old and slow player in another position afterwards as opposed to covering the defence.

You don't make fundamental mistakes of that kind of calibre without there being something very wrong.
 
CarlosMcblade said:
Not really followed Nigel Adkins career very closely. You can't argue with his CV but what are his real strengths. Is he renowned for being a tactical genius or an inspirational motivator. Not really seen much of either this season.
Thankfully he doesn't walk round with a clipboard under his arm like that big daft twat at old trafford. But his excessively positive post match assessments do not reflect what has just happened on the field. Sorry to say it Nige but your recent interviews have had a smell of desperation about them.
Maybe it's time to get the geese dvd out again.
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Claptrap, balderdash, codswallop, and piffle.
 
Barney said:
Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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So TWO promotions and keeping a shitty unfashionable side up in the Championship, is outweighed by 18 months at a plastic club with no fans who had jumped up expectations about their own status?

The 'even bigger one here' is just 33 games (in all comps), with Clough's bloated squad. Should we already have been promoted by now and what did you expect exactly?

You really do need to get out more.

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I can only assume the reason behind the 'clean slate' was the he was 'Instructed' by the owner, who had invested heavily, for league three, in this squad of journeyman, midgets.

Again I'm only guessing, but I would think the assessment was, ' who would want them' they are probably on excellent contracts given their level of ability, and well beyond their wildest expectations. In effect they have won the lottery. Given this and the wage cap I doubt if there was little choice.
 



SwissBlade said:
First para I completely agree, its all too clichéd and talking theoretically. He makes a huge point about Team Spirit, its almost as if there is none, but he has to make such an issue of it.


I had to laugh at his post Wigan comments, talking of how this could be the kick start for the season… in mid Jan.


I like the guy, don’t get me wrong, but he’s done too much PR and he’s almost American in his overly friendly approach to the Media. Of course this helps to keep them on side so that local radio and TV don’t give him a hard time.


The first comments I liked (although I couldn’t listen to them) were the post Man U comments about recovery. What I liked with Clough was his openness on some of the coaching and pre match prep. I couldn’t care less if they get on, if they like each other, if Hammond is a nice bloke, I’d rather see the results and performances on the pitch proving that something is right.


So its rare I listen to much of what he says, especially about geese and the Art of War. Footballing wise, he’s still got a long way to go to prove his point works at United. I don’t care about Scunny, S’hampton, Reading or anyone else, that was all irrelevant when he started the job here





He has inherited a squad as you say, but its one which he gave clean slates to instead of shipping out many of them. He’s not to blame for them being here when he arrived, but he’s got to take responsibility for many of them still being here and many being very comfortable, when in reality they all need to be concerned for their contracts.


And to top it all, rather than go against the tide and change the ‘mediocre journeymen’ approach, he’s added to it!


It’d be interesting to see what the average age of the starting 11 is today, compared to the side that ended the season at Swindon and the two that played Spurs and Southampton.


We can certainly say that he’s not brought in any pace, if anything he’s restricted pace by bringing slower/ less energetic players in.
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Cloughs interviews were a car crash. He came across like Blackwell; petty and obnoxious. He was his Dad without the talent or the charm.
 
When Adkins has had these successes in his past he's dropped on to a couple of star players, you know, the ones we used to call matchwinners sharp being obvious at scunny, and of course lalana and lambert etc at soton...

We currently don't have a couple that you could describe that way, we need in my opinion 4 players in a team, that can turn it our way at the drop of a shoulder, pushing it, we've got two in billy and Brayford.. But that's pushing it..

So, what we can hope for is the unearthing of a couple of diamonds of our own in the coming months, quite clearly he can spot a player or the scouting team he trusts can, let's live in hope, it hasn't gone as well as we wanted, but it's not as bad as it seems, lots of points to play for the seasons a long way from over and while I don't think the players are capable of going on a run, I can see us sneaking into the playoffs and Adkins switching on, I really think the club want to go up at Wembley, or am I just clutching at straws because we're not top two.. And haven't been for a couple of years now....
 
Barney said:
He's unbearable for me, which is why I don't listen to interviews or anything any more. If there's anything I can't stand, it's going round the houses in interviews and not answering the questions. They honestly may as well not hold them, it's pointless.

Of course you can argue with his CV, if it weren't for some of the players they already had waiting in the academy at the time, there's an extremely good case to say they wouldn't have had such success. Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by a combined failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus far.
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Any success at Scunthorpe is outweighed by failure at Reading and an even bigger one here thus.

The reason you get so much abuse on here is because you come out with complete toss like this, the assertion that Morgan should have been manager 'because he'd play the kids' (ignoring that fact that he didn't do that last time) and the utter nonsense about having ambition and paying everyone's contracts up.

As for him already having the players in the academy, I assume you criticise Alex Fergerson for the same reasons?
 
CarlosMcblade said:
Not really followed Nigel Adkins career very closely. You can't argue with his CV but what are his real strengths. Is he renowned for being a tactical genius or an inspirational motivator. Not really seen much of either this season.
Thankfully he doesn't walk round with a clipboard under his arm like that big daft twat at old trafford. But his excessively positive post match assessments do not reflect what has just happened on the field. Sorry to say it Nige but your recent interviews have had a smell of desperation about them.
Maybe it's time to get the geese dvd out again.
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He will last longer that that piggy twat CARLOS Carvalhal that's for sure, so don't really see what the problem is.

UTB & FTP - that's Fuck The Pigs btw
 
Too many people with agendas. It's quite simple. Are things getting worse or better as the season progresses? For me, it's better because the results and performances are becoming more consistent.

The team is more solid now, however I still expect to evolve into a better unit by the end of the season. There are many moving parts to come in to improve the starting 11 and that's without any transfers.

Time to cut him some slack.
 
Seeing Neill Collins flap around like a demented parrot again? What's not to like?
 
Rodley said:
Cloughs interviews were a car crash. He came across like Blackwell; petty and obnoxious. He was his Dad without the talent or the charm.
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He pissed off the Media quite quickly by not being all lovely and cuddly with them, so they often chose this to target, to get a reaction. He always answered directly.
 
sheffielder said:
Too many people with agendas. It's quite simple. Are things getting worse or better as the season progresses? For me, it's better because the results and performances are becoming more consistent.

The team is more solid now, however I still expect to evolve into a better unit by the end of the season. There are many moving parts to come in to improve the starting 11 and that's without any transfers.

Time to cut him some slack.
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There aren't that many people being overly critical without justification (admittedly i don't read every post anymore), mostly people are telling it like it is.

You say we're more solid, but in the last two league games we've conceded 6 goals. I'd say we're anything BUT solid.

We're scoring goals though, but we also did that down at Swindon, because we had to. So whats improved?
 



SwissBlade said:
He pissed off the Media quite quickly by not being all lovely and cuddly with them, so they often chose this to target, to get a reaction. He always answered directly.
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Did he bollocks!

He was never 'direct' about falling out with Collins who always had mysterious niggles that stopped him being in the squad. At that point Collins had moved all his kit in with the Under 18s and was exiled from the pros.

He also lied about the fall out with Butler, hardly 'direct'.

ISC
 
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