Kevin Blackwell has a job!

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S12 Blade said:
It was a bloody good day out until kick off, I always knew we were in trouble, that morning news of Windass's spat with Warnock was in the press and Neil wore a bloody suit to walk out in.

And the cherry on the cake was Brown missing that penalty... Wish I left then, the coach trip home was terrible.
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Those tickets were the shittest birthday present I ever got.
My 18th no less!
 



If I remember rightly the season before they sacked Blackwell we had a horrendous run of injuries,, even the loan players we brought in to cover were getting injured.
But I think we still finished in the top six......
 
PeteBlade said:
Oh yes, I agree.
Just amused me at the time as it does now.
A bit like that comment about how we were promoted "in spite of Warnock not because of".
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It's a trait a lot of people have that if they don't like someone, it's not enough to say that, they have to try to make out they're really shit as well. Seems to happen across all sports.
 
Oh yes this was when the fans decided they were sick of kick and rush and wanted to play the continental way, all that passing along the midfield bit,"we" wanted a more sophisticated type of football and it didn't matter if we went down into the third because then we could rebuild the team with up and coming young real football players........:tumbleweed:
 
I always thought Blackwell would end up working in a shithouse as opposed to working with one.
 
SandyMcBlade said:
Oh yes this was when the fans decided they were sick of kick and rush and wanted to play the continental way, all that passing along the midfield bit,"we" wanted a more sophisticated type of football and it didn't matter if we went down into the third because then we could rebuild the team with up and coming young real football players........:tumbleweed:
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I think people were sick of just the one tactic by this time of hoofing it up to Henderson, facing his own goal every time and wrestling defenders in front of the ref.
 
And yet funnily enough with that "shithouse" in charge I think we would have stayed up and not be playing this boring tippy tappy in the third.......:rolleyes:
 
Sean Thornton said:
I think people were sick of just the one tactic by this time of hoofing it up to Henderson, facing his own goal every time and wrestling defenders in front of the ref.
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I didn't mind that tactic. What perturbed me was that we kept doing it when Hendo was out injured or suspended. Which was most of the time.
 
:):eek:Blackwell got the job (in my opinion, no itk here) because someone at the board took a look at our wage bill commitments and shat themselves. Some of the over achieving championship standard players were rewarded with new deals when we were relegated (possibly on their prem wages?) I'm thinking Tongue and Morgan and possibly a couple of others here. Then we signed Speed and Beattie for whom I would hazard we were paying more than their worth to us could ever be. Add in Hendrie and Naysmith (anyone else?) and we end up with a massive over spend.

Blackwell had cut his teeth managing the fire sale at L**ds and keeping them competitive. He wasn't well liked up there despite having had to cope with the stylistic "pleasure" of a Howard Wilkinson team. I'd hope they would appreciate the scale of his task a bit more now, even though they could argue he left them with some dross, as could we, in both circumstances he was tasked with a reducing someone else's overspending.

He got the Robson team playing like a dream. Then gradually became more and more negative and percentage obsessive (as in play for percentages and hope something happens) rather than continuing to let the team off the leash. It's small margins. I think the first game we lost to Brum despite completely controlling the game and they never looked like scoring. They hired Kevin Phillips, we lost 1-0, they went up by three points.

He could have been our Tony Pulis! :):eek:
 
Deleted Member said:
Hulse, Tonge to mention a couple
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Hulse was knackered after his injury. A shadow of the player he was. Which was a shame.
Tongy was a bit off the boil too but tbf, I'd forgotten about him.

My mind has decided it can't be arsed to retain the details of anything that's happened post Warnock.
 



diplomat said:
:):eek:Blackwell got the job (in my opinion, no itk here) because someone at the board took a look at our wage bill commitments and shat themselves. Some of the over achieving championship standard players were rewarded with new deals when we were relegated (possibly on their prem wages?) I'm thinking Tongue and Morgan and possibly a couple of others here. Then we signed Speed and Beattie for whom I would hazard we were paying more than their worth to us could ever be. Add in Hendrie and Naysmith (anyone else?) and we end up with a massive over spend.

Blackwell had cut his teeth managing the fire sale at L**ds and keeping them competitive. He wasn't well liked up there despite having had to cope with the stylistic "pleasure" of a Howard Wilkinson team. I'd hope they would appreciate the scale of his task a bit more now, even though they could argue he left them with some dross, as could we, in both circumstances he was tasked with a reducing someone else's overspending.

He got the Robson team playing like a dream. Then gradually became more and more negative and percentage obsessive (as in play for percentages and hope something happens) rather than continuing to let the team off the leash. It's small margins. I think the first game we lost to Brum despite completely controlling the game and they never looked like scoring. They hired Kevin Phillips, we lost 1-0, they went up by three points.

He could have been our Tony Pulis! :):eek:
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From what I recall, Leeds had already done their fire sale. Blackwell had to sign a lot of players quickly when he was appointed manager.
In his first season, it was effectively a coaching job. And he's a decent coach. It was the rest of the stuff he was crap at, the long term stuff like recruitment, man-management, decision making. He wasn't a natural leader, like Peter Taylor he's cut out to be a number 2.

If he had the ability of Tony Pulis, he would have proven it by now.
 
BushBlade said:
From what I recall, Leeds had already done their fire sale. Blackwell had to sign a lot of players quickly when he was appointed manager.
In his first season, it was effectively a coaching job. And he's a decent coach. It was the rest of the stuff he was crap at, the long term stuff like recruitment, man-management, decision making. He wasn't a natural leader, like Peter Taylor he's cut out to be a number 2.

If he had the ability of Tony Pulis, he would have proven it by now.
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Just speculating what might have been. I kind of agree on the natural leader comment. The other I'm not sure if but there were plenty of rumours at the time suggesting you are right.

I also think one reason he didn't get a job for so long was probably because we were still paying him.
 
Never understood the abuse towards Blackwell from some of our fans, I suppose its representative of a certain section of our support who always seem to hate our own manager more than anyone else.

Blackwell did a good job for us. Steadied us after Robson, took us to a play off final, kept us competitive when everything started getting sold. I guarantee we wouldn't have been relegated had he stayed in charge in 2010-2011.

Also, he's a genuinely good bloke who absolutely loved the club, and put in several years of top service for us. I met him a few times and he's a top bloke who loves to coach and always had great things to say about the club. Considering this, the abuse some of our fans gave him was a disgrace.

Good luck to him as he enters the twilight of his career.
 
Blackwell coming in after Robson being absolute gash, getting an instant response out of the players, turning it around straight away, wasn't that what we expected this season, so, steady on with the criticism...

Our current saviour isn't doing what Blackwell did at the minute, for the league were in and the players we have, it's all relative..

Ps...I expect us to go on a decent run starting tomorrow ...UTB
 
BushBlade said:
Yes, true. Apart from BT I can't think which of the other best players were sold behind his back during the 08/09 season.
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Hulse, Tonge to mention a couple
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BushBlade said:
Hulse was knackered after his injury. A shadow of the player he was. Which was a shame.
Tongy was a bit off the boil too but tbf, I'd forgotten about him.

My mind has decided it can't be arsed to retain the details of anything that's happened post Warnock.
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I don't think Tonge was off the boil when he was sold at all. He and Speed had formed a fine partnership in Central Midfield.
Probably the last time we did have an effective central midfield, certainly at Championship level.
We won 12 matches out of 17 just before he was sold. Then we promptly lost 3 out of the next 4.
We then didn't try and sign a replacement until January. Brian Howard! We know how that turned out.
Usual pattern. Usual outcome.
 
Sothall_Blade said:
I don't think Tonge was off the boil when he was sold at all. He and Speed had formed a fine partnership in Central Midfield.
Probably the last time we did have an effective central midfield, certainly at Championship level.
We won 12 matches out of 17 just before he was sold. Then we promptly lost 3 out of the next 4.
We then didn't try and sign a replacement until January. Brian Howard! We know how that turned out.
Usual pattern. Usual outcome.
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Yeah, I suppose he was doing well enough for Pulis to pay decent money for him.
 
We were beaten before we kicked off against Burnley. I got lost and we ended up in the Burnley drinking area. They were singing their hearts out and focused on my blades shirt. A good few laughs then followed with about 20 Burnley fans chasing me (not trying to kill me)

I eventually landed at the high house I think it's called which was like a blades funeral, despite the large numbers of blades. The game itself was one of the worst performance I've seen. However, we still had an absolute blatant penalty turned down by yes.......Mike Dean. This after Blackwell said it was ridiculous he was reffing the game after his stupid sending off of Kilgallon at Hillsborough.
 
Sothall_Blade said:
I don't think Tonge was off the boil when he was sold at all. He and Speed had formed a fine partnership in Central Midfield.
Probably the last time we did have an effective central midfield, certainly at Championship level.
We won 12 matches out of 17 just before he was sold. Then we promptly lost 3 out of the next 4.
We then didn't try and sign a replacement until January. Brian Howard! We know how that turned out.
Usual pattern. Usual outcome.
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I could've swore we got Howard earlier than January
 
Borbokisfreekick said:
Never understood the abuse towards Blackwell from some of our fans, I suppose its representative of a certain section of our support who always seem to hate our own manager more than anyone else.

Blackwell did a good job for us. Steadied us after Robson, took us to a play off final, kept us competitive when everything started getting sold. I guarantee we wouldn't have been relegated had he stayed in charge in 2010-2011.

Also, he's a genuinely good bloke who absolutely loved the club, and put in several years of top service for us. I met him a few times and he's a top bloke who loves to coach and always had great things to say about the club. Considering this, the abuse some of our fans gave him was a disgrace.

Good luck to him as he enters the twilight of his career.
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I think Blackwell gets a bad deal from some of the criticism put his way as he did a better job than he is given credit for, but the next time I hear one of the players say something nice about him will be the first time. He was by all accounts widely disliked and had the reputation of being a bully.
 
HighfieldBlade said:
KB's last game in charge for us was when we got stuffed by QPR, I think.
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His last 4 results were beating Swansea 2-0, beating Ipswich away 3-0, a 1-1 draw at Cardiff with 10 men for 66 minutes and 0-3 to runaway champions QPR. He had just brought in Leon Brittan to try to move to a controlled passing game.

Useless bastard.
 
2005-6 under Neil Warnock finished 2nd in the Champ and used 42 players in the league.
2006-7 in the Prem. we used 36 and finished 18th
2007-8 in the Champ. Robson / Blackwell we finished 9th used 32 players
2009-10 season Blackwell finished 8th and used 39 players
2010-11. Blackwell, Speed, Carver, Adams we finished 23rd and used 42 players
2011-12 Danny Wilson 3rd in Div 3 we used 34
2013/14 Weir/Clough finished 8th players 35
2014-15 Clough finished 5th players 31.
2015-16 ?
 
The main criticism of Blackwell's was not about his results, it was about the stile of football.
But then again he was up against it from the very start because he was always classed as the cheap option...
Best season - 2008-9 used 36 players finished 3rd
 
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SandyMcBlade said:
2005-6 under Neil Warnock finished 2nd in the Champ and used 42 players in the league.
2006-7 in the Prem. we used 36 and finished 18th
2007-8 in the Champ. Robson / Blackwell we finished 9th used 32 players
2009-10 season Blackwell finished 8th and used 39 players
2010-11. Blackwell, Speed, Carver, Adams we finished 23rd and used 42 players
2011-12 Danny Wilson 3rd in Div 3 we used 34
2013/14 Weir/Clough finished 8th players 35
2014-15 Clough finished 5th players 31.
2015-16 ?
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2015-16 Adkins/Morgan finished 12th players 33
 
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