Is anyone expecting an aftermath on Saturday?

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BushBlade said:
They're not my fucking friends. Couldn't give a shit about them.

If you're looking for an argument go and find someone who'll bite. I'm not interested enough in Millwall to waste my time discussing them. You asked a question, I gave my opinion.
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I questioned someone else. You came in with an opinion. If you give your opinion and someone tests that opinion by countering, then was it you who was 'looking for an argument'?
No reason to get pissed off.
Enjoy the game.
 
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BushBlade said:
Dunno, but it was smashed up in either 82 or 83 when we played Millwall, it was all boarded up and I was told it kicked off with Millwall fans. As I said, I was just a kid.
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It was January 84 when we played Birmingham in the Cup. Wednesday were at home on the same day and the Tramway landlord was at Hillsborough. About 20 minutes into the game the tannoy announcer asked for the Tramway landlord and then announced that his pub had been smashed up by Sheffield United fans, which got a laugh from the crowd.
This is the only time that I can remember a group of away fans getting in a pub on London Road and I've never heard this about Millwall fans before your post (no offence pal!!).
 
Sheffield United to use crowd control barriers for visit of Millwall
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Sheffield United supporters

This couple are obviously texting Millwall fans arranging the venue for tonight's set to. She's left her reading glasses at home specially.

Thanks to the Sheffield Telegraph for this useless piece of matching up a photo with a non-story.
 
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Harry's Game said:
I would say it's almost a certainty to have some form of serious fuck wittery from the Millwall fans within and around the ground or in the City Centre tomorrow.

One thing that may stem it is the weather forecast is rotten and a bit of rain is the best Police man on Earth.
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Many years ago Mrs BoSS and I a couple we knew then were out one night in Wakefield. We realised we were being followed by a group of lads who obviously planned some wind up or other. Mrs BoSS said to leave it her - she turned round and walked straight up to them and said, "I'm an off - duty police woman and you have two choices. I arrest you or you fuck off." They fucked off sharpish. She was actually a Special for a short while and the PC who mentored her was a great bloke - old style clip round the ear and knew the form.

She couldn't make it today ;)
 
Jon Bon said:
How the fuck are they going to get up the steps to the Lane Upper..?
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Always thought about that Bon Jon, when Dr Who is fighting or trying to get away from them, just go up a flight of stairs, you time travelling cock.utb fto.
 
So Milwall fans are no worse than any others eh? someone tell the police because they had Shoreham street shut off after the game, causing traffic chaos. 4 horses, loads of riot police and a dog van zooming past with the blue light on.
Oh yeah and if you wanted to go from John Street to Bramall lane they blocked that access too.
 
The problem isn't Millwall, it's the fact that the idiots at other clubs feel the need to show how hard they are by taking them on. Yes there was trouble after the match but only because our fans attacked their convey as it went past St Mary's, hence the ring of steel across most of Bramall Lane (they made the schoolboy error of not restricting access to the church grounds).
 



Our rep (Millwall) goes back to the 1890s. The club was the club of the dockers right up until they closed in the late 1970s.

The Den was always considered a bit rough. Not because of hooliganism, but just because it was where crowds of 20-40,000 (back when the London docks was thriving) contained a big percentage of dockers...ie beered up Eastenders, Irish navies, Scot migrants, as well Turks and afro-Caribbeans.

So, there was always a few punch up down Cold Blow Lane. The ground was closed about 5 times before organised football violence was even a glitter in the post mod & rocker generation's eyes!

It's just when football violence took off as an organised event that a football stadium in the heart of one of the biggest areas of social housing in Europe, full of the aforementioned dockers, provided quite a good venue for working class lads from other rough areas in the north & other parts of London for a punch up.

When hooliganism started to sell papers The Den was also well placed to play a starring role. Being as it was on a short hop over the river from Fleet Street. Hundreds of punch ups in the provinces went unreported at places like Turf Moorf etc etc...but if Leeds are in town at The Den, well all the big hitting reporters from all the big papers with column inches to fill could jump on a bus, in a taxi or on the train & be at The Den in no time.

And so you had a perfect storm. Once thousands of Millwall fans kicked off & actually beat up Thatcher's police live on the BBC in the FA Cup at Luton there was no going back.

Every club in the land wanted a piece of the action when Millwall showed up, as did the police. And the media were happy to find a ready written story to churn out easy copy & sell papers.

Now we are stuck in a catch 22 situation. Most Millwall away turn outs are 99% 18-50 year old blokes, as no one wants to take kids & women to towns & cities where local nutters will come and have a go...therefore there's no diluting influence & Millwall away crowds will be rowdy & a big % wont shy away from a fight, even if they weren't looking for. Most are the sons & grandsons of dockers, have gone into building, scaffolding, working on the tube as maintenance, scrap mentalling etc...so again, the support hadn't been diluted by more middle class types that have attached themselves to more successful & less tainted clubs.

If you're a middle class family moving into south London you're gonna get the tube to Chelsea, Arsenal...or go to Palace. Not The Den.

And do it goes on.

Btw Sheffield United are the only club I've seen in the last few years to bring a serious firm to London & actively seek out our hooligans by avoiding the police and not using coward's way etc...So, we're not that different..
I know that myself from living off the London Road, Sheffield in early 2000s!
 
1980 said:
Our rep (Millwall) goes back to the 1890s. The club was the club of the dockers right up until they closed in the late 1970s.

The Den was always considered a bit rough. Not because of hooliganism, but just because it was where crowds of 20-40,000 (back when the London docks was thriving) contained a big percentage of dockers...ie beered up Eastenders, Irish navies, Scot migrants, as well Turks and afro-Caribbeans.

So, there was always a few punch up down Cold Blow Lane. The ground was closed about 5 times before organised football violence was even a glitter in the post mod & rocker generation's eyes!

It's just when football violence took off as an organised event that a football stadium in the heart of one of the biggest areas of social housing in Europe, full of the aforementioned dockers, provided quite a good venue for working class lads from other rough areas in the north & other parts of London for a punch up.

When hooliganism started to sell papers The Den was also well placed to play a starring role. Being as it was on a short hop over the river from Fleet Street. Hundreds of punch ups in the provinces went unreported at places like Turf Moorf etc etc...but if Leeds are in town at The Den, well all the big hitting reporters from all the big papers with column inches to fill could jump on a bus, in a taxi or on the train & be at The Den in no time.

And so you had a perfect storm. Once thousands of Millwall fans kicked off & actually beat up Thatcher's police live on the BBC in the FA Cup at Luton there was no going back.

Every club in the land wanted a piece of the action when Millwall showed up, as did the police. And the media were happy to find a ready written story to churn out easy copy & sell papers.

Now we are stuck in a catch 22 situation. Most Millwall away turn outs are 99% 18-50 year old blokes, as no one wants to take kids & women to towns & cities where local nutters will come and have a go...therefore there's no diluting influence & Millwall away crowds will be rowdy & a big % wont shy away from a fight, even if they weren't looking for. Most are the sons & grandsons of dockers, have gone into building, scaffolding, working on the tube as maintenance, scrap mentalling etc...so again, the support hadn't been diluted by more middle class types that have attached themselves to more successful & less tainted clubs.

If you're a middle class family moving into south London you're gonna get the tube to Chelsea, Arsenal...or go to Palace. Not The Den.

And do it goes on.

Btw Sheffield United are the only club I've seen in the last few years to bring a serious firm to London & actively seek out our hooligans by avoiding the police and not using coward's way etc...So, we're not that different..
I know that myself from living off the London Road, Sheffield in early 2000s!
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Was impressed with your support today, very loud and that 'wall of sound" chant that went on for quite a while...liked that too, haven't heard that before and it gets under the skin after a few mins , good luck for the rest of the season.
 
It got a little tasty at the entrance to Bramall Lane after the match but apart from that didn't see any actually trouble. However there was one incident that slightly troubled me, after the game me and mate where walking past the Decathlon where a Elderly man shouted to us and others "Help, these two are knocking me about!", we looked and we saw the elderly man with the two younger men (late twenties, early thirties) who had their arms around him, as if they where arresting him, there was no obvious struggle or robbery going on, what a stupid place to try to mug someone. We looked at him and he said "They are!", on balance we and others decided to leave it as it just looked like a trap or a wind up, Just wondering if anyone else saw it?
 
1980 said:
Our rep (Millwall) goes back to the 1890s. The club was the club of the dockers right up until they closed in the late 1970s.

The Den was always considered a bit rough. Not because of hooliganism, but just because it was where crowds of 20-40,000 (back when the London docks was thriving) contained a big percentage of dockers...ie beered up Eastenders, Irish navies, Scot migrants, as well Turks and afro-Caribbeans.

So, there was always a few punch up down Cold Blow Lane. The ground was closed about 5 times before organised football violence was even a glitter in the post mod & rocker generation's eyes!

It's just when football violence took off as an organised event that a football stadium in the heart of one of the biggest areas of social housing in Europe, full of the aforementioned dockers, provided quite a good venue for working class lads from other rough areas in the north & other parts of London for a punch up.

When hooliganism started to sell papers The Den was also well placed to play a starring role. Being as it was on a short hop over the river from Fleet Street. Hundreds of punch ups in the provinces went unreported at places like Turf Moorf etc etc...but if Leeds are in town at The Den, well all the big hitting reporters from all the big papers with column inches to fill could jump on a bus, in a taxi or on the train & be at The Den in no time.

And so you had a perfect storm. Once thousands of Millwall fans kicked off & actually beat up Thatcher's police live on the BBC in the FA Cup at Luton there was no going back.

Every club in the land wanted a piece of the action when Millwall showed up, as did the police. And the media were happy to find a ready written story to churn out easy copy & sell papers.

Now we are stuck in a catch 22 situation. Most Millwall away turn outs are 99% 18-50 year old blokes, as no one wants to take kids & women to towns & cities where local nutters will come and have a go...therefore there's no diluting influence & Millwall away crowds will be rowdy & a big % wont shy away from a fight, even if they weren't looking for. Most are the sons & grandsons of dockers, have gone into building, scaffolding, working on the tube as maintenance, scrap mentalling etc...so again, the support hadn't been diluted by more middle class types that have attached themselves to more successful & less tainted clubs.

If you're a middle class family moving into south London you're gonna get the tube to Chelsea, Arsenal...or go to Palace. Not The Den.

And do it goes on.

Btw Sheffield United are the only club I've seen in the last few years to bring a serious firm to London & actively seek out our hooligans by avoiding the police and not using coward's way etc...So, we're not that different..
I know that myself from living off the London Road, Sheffield in early 2000s!
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You're still not a patch on Shadwell though!
 
I had to laugh at the chant to the tune of 'Que Sera Sera'.

It just went "Oh Millwall, Millwall...Milwall, Millwall, Millwall...etc". Is that a pisstake?
 
Hugh Nitedite said:
Was impressed with your support today, very loud and that 'wall of sound" chant that went on for quite a while...liked that too, haven't heard that before and it gets under the skin after a few mins , good luck for the rest of the season.
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That's the 'monk chant'...goes back to the 1980s..

Can be great when 10-15,000 Wall are doing it non stop for 20 minutes or so...heard opposition players say it's very unnerving, including Gary Lineker who said it really put him & his team mates off for some reason.
 
Rodley said:
I had to laugh at the chant to the tune of 'Que Sera Sera'.

It just went "Oh Millwall, Millwall...Milwall, Millwall, Millwall...etc". Is that a pisstake?
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No.

We are a a very inward looking club.

Our most common chants are just the word Millwall to different tunes...ie que sera, sera...or amazing grace, auld lang etc...

Plus no one likes us, the monk chant (Miiiiilll) or Let Em Come.

Never heard us ever sing things like up the football league we go, or so and so is a shithole I wanna go home, or any of those types of generic songs.

Just Millwall.
 
1980 said:
We've taken the 'Dog Kennel' many times!
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Interesting that Chelsea played West Ham today ,what are your thoughts on that ? Does it still kick off in London or does everyone go home and watch Strictly ?
 
Lane Ender said:
Never heard us ever sing things like up the football league we go, or so and so is a shithole I wanna go home, or any of those types of generic songs.

Just Millwall.
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Well as much as I dislike Millwall (and Millwall don't care), that's commendable. :)
 
s35blade said:
It got a little tasty at the entrance to Bramall Lane after the match but apart from that didn't see any actually trouble. However there was one incident that slightly troubled me, after the game me and mate where walking past the Decathlon where a Elderly man shouted to us and others "Help, these two are knocking me about!", we looked and we saw the elderly man with the two younger men (late twenties, early thirties) who had their arms around him, as if they where arresting him, there was no obvious struggle or robbery going on, what a stupid place to try to mug someone. We looked at him and he said "They are!", on balance we and others decided to leave it as it just looked like a trap or a wind up, Just wondering if anyone else saw it?
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Oddly, there was a robbery outside Decathlon just a few months ago. A bizarre story where a woman in her mid 70s had her car keys stolen and car taken.
 
hello said:
Oddly, there was a robbery outside Decathlon just a few months ago. A bizarre story where a woman in her mid 70s had her car keys stolen and car taken.
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But just after a Football match? where the place is crawling with Police and theres a steady stream of people walking past?
 
s35blade said:
It got a little tasty at the entrance to Bramall Lane after the match but apart from that didn't see any actually trouble. However there was one incident that slightly troubled me, after the game me and mate where walking past the Decathlon where a Elderly man shouted to us and others "Help, these two are knocking me about!", we looked and we saw the elderly man with the two younger men (late twenties, early thirties) who had their arms around him, as if they where arresting him, there was no obvious struggle or robbery going on, what a stupid place to try to mug someone. We looked at him and he said "They are!", on balance we and others decided to leave it as it just looked like a trap or a wind up, Just wondering if anyone else saw it?
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Me and my mate saw that only there were two other blokes (40s) stood holding him up. South Yorkshires finest were also in attendance
 



sitwell said:
Interesting that Chelsea played West Ham today ,what are your thoughts on that ? Does it still kick off in London or does everyone go home and watch Strictly ?
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There would have been an organised meet.

However, West Ham haven't really got big numbers anymore.

Spurs have the largest firm in the capital & are very active. There was quite a lot of trouble at their recent League Cup game with Arsenal.

There's always trouble at London derbies - even at Palace v Charlton in the League Cup recently.
 
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