Stayed off here for the weekend

[Slim Man]

Because I'm sure you as well as I know the problem, and going on and on about it doesn't help anyone. We can't do anything as fans, I don't want anyone out at board or management level so it's kicking and screaming for the sake of it. I'm glad I didn't go to the match, can't say I missed not going.

First things first, Adkins must shoulder some blame. Scougall isn't good enough to be playing every week, and he should have come off for Sammon - not our biggest threat in Done - unless an injury occurred. But I don't blame him much else, he can only play with the cards he's dealt.

I can't help but think apathy has set in from top to bottom. The powers that be don't really seem to care that we have an embarrassing team, it's like an internal transfer embargo. If they don't care, why should we? Why should we keep plowing our hard earned money into watching the worst Sheffield United side I've seen in my lifetime? Do they deserve the support? Do the board deserve the gate receipts? What's it going to take to make the board do the needful and sign the players we need to get promoted?

Looking forward to another performance full of huff n puff, the opposition having more possession, chances, and maybe us sneaking a win. Unless we strengthen which they seem in no rush to do - that will continue. We can't win a midfield battle, and we're playing a side which has just put 5 past the league leaders. I'm not sure we'll win tomorrow, and when we're Sheffield United, 20,000 a week (STILL!) at home to Fleetwood, that hurts.

This year was set up for us to take the bull by the horns, it couldn't have been more perfect. 3 relegated teams in turmoil, the 3 best sides in the league gone, and Adkins appointed. We've still managed to make a mess of it. Wigan have got their act together and are coming like a train, Coventry have done likewise, and Gillingham, Bury etc show no signs of letting up.

Selling your best player year on year isn't a recipe for success, that much is for certain.

Depressing times.

 

[blade too long]

thing is we are dealing with people
they have frailies , they can be good they can be mediocre they can be off the pace
once they cross the line all the best training in the world cant change things
you rely on most of those on the pitch being good together on that day

on saturday it was our forwards who were less than good on Saturday
we have seen all the players we play have good games , its the level of competance to continue doing it we need to focus on
some of these player ran Southampton forest and charlton ragged
won at qpr and west ham , so they can do it

"Selling your best player year on year isn't a recipe for success, that much is for certain."

sorry but thats what happens , you cant sell your worst players you give them free transfers
man utd sold Ronaldo then di maria , Liverpool sold Alonso then Saurez

so we arent the only club selling our best players, all clubs do as other clubs only want the best
we are looking to buy better its just harder attracting them to league one

 

[Slim Man]

It's not tough to say 'no' to a transfer request.
Just tell them to give you another year and then they can go. It's not in their interests to perform badly or their 'dream move' will be nothing but a distant memory.

Two high profile ones this summer , De Gea and Berahino. De Gea signed a new contract and Berahino has scored goals since his episode.

Don't feed me the guff about them 'not being selling clubs' either. Real Madrid are the side who signed Man United's best player, breaking the world transfer record. West Brom are one of the lesser sides in the Premier League, they said no.

You might believe what they tell ya, it's a good job the rest of us don't.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

thing is we are dealing with people
they have frailies , they can be good they can be mediocre they can be off the pace
once they cross the line all the best training in the world cant change things
you rely on most of those on the pitch being good together on that day

on saturday it was our forwards who were less than good on Saturday
we have seen all the players we play have good games , its the level of competance to continue doing it we need to focus on
some of these player ran Southampton forest and charlton ragged
won at qpr and west ham , so they can do it

"Selling your best player year on year isn't a recipe for success, that much is for certain."

sorry but thats what happens , you cant sell your worst players you give them free transfers
man utd sold Ronaldo then di maria , Liverpool sold Alonso then Saurez

so we arent the only club selling our best players, all clubs do as other clubs only want the best
we are looking to buy better its just harder attracting them to league one

Man Utd Sold Ronaldo but did they then sit on their hands and do nothing with the cash?

 

[blade too long]

Man Utd Sold Ronaldo but did they then sit on their hands and do nothing with the cash?

again we are trying to spend it but trying to persuade someone to drop down to our level
plus we havent got 85 million for murphy

 

[Slim Man]

again we are trying to spend it but trying to persuade someone to drop down to our level
plus we havent got 85 million for murphy

No, we got nearly £2mil apparently, where is it?
£2mil in this league can buy you a TEAM capable of promotion. We don't need that, we only need 2/3 players...

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Man Utd Sold Ronaldo but did they then sit on their hands and do nothing with the cash?

Spurs did exactly the same when they sold Bale . You can sometimes buy for the sake of buying without any plan or thought process and squander the money.

Adkins and the board , cannot be accused of this , as they are using alot of thinking time.

UTB

 

[blade too long]

No, we got nearly £2mil apparently, where is it?
£2mil in this league can buy you a TEAM capable of promotion. We don't need that, we only need 2/3 players...

what do you MEAN where is it

probably only recieved half of it
no one pays in full
and its in the public domain we have tried to sign players , Burn would be here if FULHAM HADNT HAD 2 DEFENDERS INJURED

 

[Slim Man]

what do you where is it

probably only recieved half of it
no one pays in full
and its in the public domain we have tried to sign players , Burn would be here if F

Well what's stopping us paying half now for players the rest later? If that's whats happening to us surely we can do it to others? Or are we too dim?

Why don't we move on then? Burn played at the weekend, clearly not available. Move onto other targets. It's just like last year.

 

[blade too long]

Well what's stopping us paying half now for players the rest later? If that's whats happening to us surely we can do it to others? Or are we too dim?

Why don't we move on then? Burn played at the weekend, clearly not available. Move onto other targets. It's just like last year.

YOUR STILL NOT GRASPING WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IN PLAYERS FROM OTHER CLUBS
WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WHEN THEY ARE PREPARED TO RELEASE THEM

tell you what lets get one of wednesdays cast offs or Charltons 5th in line in so we can say weve got someone to placate those saying we aint got no one in yet
is that what you want
or some better players

identifying players to improve us is phase 1
then you must wait to implement it
if as Adkins has intimated theres little out there better available I suspect hes right

I should imagine theres 23 other clubs in this division looking to improve their squads

 

[Smirth]

The power Jamie Murphy & Harry Maguire had over SUFC is nothing like comparable to the power Ronaldo had over Man Utd or Suarez had over Liverpool. Although interestingly both players wanted away earlier but were convinced to stay on for at least another season before leaving. Both CR & LS were world stars wanted by the 2 biggest clubs in world football.

JM & HM were wanted by two small-ish clubs albeit in higher leagues than us. That did not mean the club needed to bend the knee to them but as soon as there is a whiff of a bit of profit to be made they cash in.

 

[Slim Man]

The power Jamie Murphy & Harry Maguire had over SUFC is nothing like comparable to the power Ronaldo had over Man Utd or Suarez had over Liverpool. Although interestingly both players wanted away earlier but were convinced to stay on for at least another season before leaving. Both CR & LS were world stars wanted by the 2 biggest clubs in world football.

JM & HM were wanted by two small-ish clubs albeit in higher leagues than us. That did not mean the club needed to bend the knee to them but as soon as there is a whiff of a bit of profit to be made they cash in.

Maybe not at our level but certainly comparable.
Barca and Real were/are working at a higher level than Liverpool and Man Utd but not actually bigger clubs. Much like us and Hull/Brighton. We bent over as soon as possible.

 

[Slim Man]

hadnt had 2 injuries to defenders

YOUR STILL NOT GRASPING WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IN PLAYERS FROM OTHER CLUBS
WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WHEN THEY ARE PREPARED TO RELEASE THEM

tell you what lets get one of wednesdays cast offs or Charltons 5th in line in so we can say weve got someone to placate those saying we aint got no one in yet
is that what you want
or some better players

identifying players to improve us is phase 1
then you must wait to implement it
if as Adkins has intimated theres little out there better available I suspect hes right

Have you thought of getting a job for the club?
It's like trying to converse with a bag of crisps.

 

[blade too long]

well what do you think the clubs doing , honestly
sat in an office counting the money from selling Murphy planning a big xmas do

honestly , do you think they arent after getting us up,,,,,, really
you are aware mccabe is a fan , he hurts like you and me when we dont win
its not some tuna filleter hoping to make money

 

[Slim Man]

well what do you think the clubs doing , honestly
sat in an office counting the money from selling Murphy planning a big xmas do

honestly , do you think they arent after getting us up,,,,,, really
you are aware mccabe is a fan , he hurts like you and me when we dont win

I don't doubt they're doing something. Quite what it is I'm not sure.

And there's a reason we've been a downward spiral ever since Sir Derek died, McCabe knows as much about football as your average American, yet he is arrogant enough to think he knows what he's doing.

 

[blade too long]

I don't doubt they're doing something. Quite what it is I'm not sure.

And there's a reason we've been a downward spiral ever since Sir Derek died, McCabe knows as much about football as your average American, yet he is arrogant enough to think he knows what he's doing.

he lost interest for 4 years admitted as much wanted out had enough abuse
but hes enthusiatic again now so hopefully be better especially as hes delegated out the football bits
luckily hes good at construction and making money which keeps us going
so long as hes there paying the bills hes fine
just keep him out of the football decisions

 

[metalblade]

YOUR STILL NOT GRASPING WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IN PLAYERS FROM OTHER CLUBS
WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WHEN THEY ARE PREPARED TO RELEASE THEM

tell you what lets get one of wednesdays cast offs or Charltons 5th in line in so we can say weve got someone to placate those saying we aint got no one in yet
is that what you want
or some better players

identifying players to improve us is phase 1
then you must wait to implement it
if as Adkins has intimated theres little out there better available I suspect hes right

I should imagine theres 23 other clubs in this division looking to improve their squads

BLT IN OTHER CLUBS CAN REFUSE TO LET PLAYERS GO SHOCKER make your mind up clubs can say no or they can't you can't have it both ways to suit your agenda.

 

[DiggerBlade]

Saturday`s result felt more like a loss than an away point and yet we`re still in touching distance of an automatic place. The frustration is born out of how poor this league is compared to last season or the previous season`s past. Defeats to mediocre sides does`nt help of course but the facts remain that we`re 5 points off auto after a shit start and lack lustre performances. It`s the overall fact that with a decent squad mentality and team application we could have been points clear at the top by now. Unfortunately we`re not and that could be because we expect to win every game without putting in 100% ala Gillingham, Port Vale Bury & Colchester. As for team strengthening, I think this will happen sooner rather than later and still be enough to see us over the line. In the meantime, any team playing us is going to give more than 100% and that is simply the difference.

 

[Bladebri]

I can't believe that the board and manager don't see the frailties that our team have, I for 1 would feel embarrassed to keep churning out the same inept performances week after week, they will put this right I have every confidence in that, just frustrated in not happened yet.

 

[blade too long]

BLT IN OTHER CLUBS CAN REFUSE TO LET PLAYERS GO SHOCKER make your mind up clubs can say no or they can't you can't have it both ways to suit your agenda.

they were keeping them on bigger wages in a higher league under contracr

we were in the reverse situation of holding them back from moving up and getting payed double at least
the motivation was there to go we held no aces
the ones we are trying to sign arent doubling their wages and moving up

hardly even a subtle difference

 

[Caveblade]

thing is we are dealing with people
they have frailies , they can be good they can be mediocre they can be off the pace
once they cross the line all the best training in the world cant change things
you rely on most of those on the pitch being good together on that day

on saturday it was our forwards who were less than good on Saturday
we have seen all the players we play have good games , its the level of competance to continue doing it we need to focus on
some of these player ran Southampton forest and charlton ragged
won at qpr and west ham , so they can do it

"Selling your best player year on year isn't a recipe for success, that much is for certain."

sorry but thats what happens , you cant sell your worst players you give them free transfers
man utd sold Ronaldo then di maria , Liverpool sold Alonso then Saurez

so we arent the only club selling our best players, all clubs do as other clubs only want the best
we are looking to buy better its just harder attracting them to league one

Your point is valid, but you could also clearly argue that even at the elevated premiership level, both Man Ure and Liverpool have gone backwards as a result of those sales. Kevin McCabes annual sale combined with regular managerial changes has both weakened us and left us saddled with a large glaringly unbalanced squad.

 

[Grappler]

Saturday`s result felt more like a loss than an away point and yet we`re still in touching distance of an automatic place. The frustration is born out of how poor this league is compared to last season or the previous season`s past. Defeats to mediocre sides does`nt help of course but the facts remain that we`re 5 points off auto after a shit start and lack lustre performances. It`s the overall fact that with a decent squad mentality and team application we could have been points clear at the top by now. Unfortunately we`re not and that could be because we expect to win every game without putting in 100% ala Gillingham, Port Vale Bury & Colchester. As for team strengthening, I think this will happen sooner rather than later and still be enough to see us over the line. In the meantime, any team playing us is going to give more than 100% and that is simply the difference.

I think that sums it up for a lot of us, our hope now is that we keep within touching distance of the top two spots and bring people in, in January.

 

[blade too long]

Your point is valid, but you could also clearly argue that even at the elevated premiership level, both Man Ure and Liverpool have gone backwards as a result of those sales. Kevin McCabes annual sale combined with regular managerial changes has both weakened us and left us saddled with a large glaringly unbalanced squad.

man utds and liverpool got left with big squads that cost 100 times more than ours that were for their level just as
unbalanced and over blown with inadequate players
which is my point
we arent the only club like it

thing is Adkins has had 12 games to get a squad of much less talented players turned round to become adequate
its not really fair to be over critical in 10 weeks of a first season

 

[Worksop II]

and bring people in, in January.

McCabe must be laughing his cock off .................................................

To be honest it probably fell off 5 years ago, after it worked for the previous 10 times

 

[Caveblade]

man utds and liverpool got left with big squads that cost 100 times more than ours that were for their level just as
unbalanced and over blown with inadequate players
which is my point
we arent the only club like it

thing is Adkins has had 12 games to get a squad of much less talented players turned round to become adequate
its not really fair to be over critical in 10 weeks of a first season

I am not being overly critical of Adkins, I like the guy, the issue is in the boardroom, just as it has been for the last 40 years. I will be overly critical of Kevin McCabe, he has overseen this slide into mediocrity, Adkins is just the next manager (in an ever expanding long line of managers) to try and work a miracle with one hand tied behind his back.

Another week with two home games approaches, it will be interesting to see how many points we can gain or drop from a week that on paper should be fairly promising. The danger is we may only be ten weeks in, but unless the board wake up and back the manager we will have a mountain to climb by January.

 

[mosbolad]

thing is we are dealing with people
they have frailies ,

I absolutely agree Blade Too Long, spelling is one of my frailies......

 

[Deleted member 875]

YOUR STILL NOT GRASPING WE ARE TRYING TO BRING IN PLAYERS FROM OTHER CLUBS
WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WHEN THEY ARE PREPARED TO RELEASE THEM

tell you what lets get one of wednesdays cast offs or Charltons 5th in line in so we can say weve got someone to placate those saying we aint got no one in yet
is that what you want
or some better players

identifying players to improve us is phase 1
then you must wait to implement it
if as Adkins has intimated theres little out there better available I suspect hes right

I should imagine theres 23 other clubs in this division looking to improve their squads

Yeah, 23 other clubs in this division looking to improve their squads. Good point, it must be churlish of me to expect us to be able to compete with global giants such as Gillingham and Walsall.

 

[sheffielder]

again we are trying to spend it but trying to persuade someone to drop down to our level
plus we havent got 85 million for murphy

it's relative. we got 1.5m so what did we spend it on?

 

[Bartleby]

they were keeping them on bigger wages in a higher league under contracr

we were in the reverse situation of holding them back from moving up and getting payed double at least
the motivation was there to go we held no aces
the ones we are trying to sign arent doubling their wages and moving up

hardly even a subtle difference

totally agree. in the case of Murphy he is now getting first team football at the top of the Championship, could well be playing in the PL next season. Strachan has stated, I believe, that he's not looking to select from L1 for the Scotland team. Hardly comparable to the draw of moving down to L1, even if it is in front of a massive crowd (who will be on your back at the first mistake)

 

[sheffielder]

Saturday`s result felt more like a loss than an away point and yet we`re still in touching distance of an automatic place. The frustration is born out of how poor this league is compared to last season or the previous season`s past. Defeats to mediocre sides does`nt help of course but the facts remain that we`re 5 points off auto after a shit start and lack lustre performances. It`s the overall fact that with a decent squad mentality and team application we could have been points clear at the top by now. Unfortunately we`re not and that could be because we expect to win every game without putting in 100% ala Gillingham, Port Vale Bury & Colchester. As for team strengthening, I think this will happen sooner rather than later and still be enough to see us over the line. In the meantime, any team playing us is going to give more than 100% and that is simply the difference.

The frustration for me is that we aren't a million miles away from getting this right, however we don't 'appear' to be doing anything about it.