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What was that just on way home from oldham and what a chance to get 2 points back on Walsall and keep up with the rest of the field.

What a total lack of effort by all the players. Playing ten men and a team 4th bottom with 30 mins to go and still can't put the ball in back of the net.

Not one good player on the pitch bar from Howard. If it wasn't for a brilliant save from Howard we would have lost that match.

How Collins is still wearing a united shirt I don't know. Watching him is so irritating and then he will score a goal and everyone forgets about all his bad mistakes he makes every match. He gives the ball away so easily and doesn't know how to go forward at all. Every single ball he plays he either gives away possession or passes backwards.

Think scougall had a absolute shocker of a game never had the ball at his feet and was far to weak. He had one decent chance that he should have put away but hit the bar.

Can't name one good player on the pitch today. Even done who score a brilliant goal but bar from that offered nothing at all. All round the team had a poor game from the minute the first whistle went you could tell that it was just going to be one of the games.

For the goal the corner was an average corner to the back post and then a free header on goal. He had so much time and had to put it in back of the net had no defender no where near him. At times it looked so easy for the to walk through the defence and midfield. We allowed them so much time on the ball and still looked this way when they had ten men.

We never made it look like we had an extra man on the field, and I feel adkins also made mistakes and feel like he should have put Campbell Ryce on as soon as they went down to ten men. Campbell ryce must be kicking him self wondering why he can't get on the pitch he is the man in form and still can't get a good run. They had a man sent off and another player on a yellow at the back why not let campbell come on and run and them and cause then problems and force them into stupid tackles.

Think adams offered very little as well bar from odd decent run from him and beating a few defenders. I know the Lad is still learning the game and don't get me wrong I think he is brilliant when he gets the ball down at his feet but getting it there seems to be a bit of a problem. And think he offers very little in defending he had a good game last home game and scored 2 brilliant goals and can't knock him for that, but today he seemed to be jogging around the pitch half heartedly and not really putting the effort in that he should have and should have been subbed.

Every single game we have to rely on out scoring the opposition. Can't buy a clean sheet at all and Howard seems to get almost the stick for this but don't think he is at fault, I know I have already mentioned Howard but really feel it could have been a lot worse bar from him savings us.

And have just heard on praise or grumble some one ringing up and saying to the United fans that was booing after the match that we don't want you? Well I was one of them people and stand by it, how can they play like that and you want to clap them off the pitch why would you want to clap the players and give them the impression they played well when they was poor from minute go.

Rant over.

Posted this earlier on way back from match but just realised I posted it on general chat instead of blades general chat like a idiot so here it is.
 



What was that just on way home from oldham and what a chance to get 2 points back on Walsall and keep up with the rest of the field.

What a total lack of effort by all the players. Playing ten men and a team 4th bottom with 30 mins to go and still can't put the ball in back of the net.

Not one good player on the pitch bar from Howard. If it wasn't for a brilliant save from Howard we would have lost that match.

How Collins is still wearing a united shirt I don't know. Watching him is so irritating and then he will score a goal and everyone forgets about all his bad mistakes he makes every match. He gives the ball away so easily and doesn't know how to go forward at all. Every single ball he plays he either gives away possession or passes backwards.

Think scougall had a absolute shocker of a game never had the ball at his feet and was far to weak. He had one decent chance that he should have put away but hit the bar.

Can't name one good player on the pitch today. Even done who score a brilliant goal but bar from that offered nothing at all. All round the team had a poor game from the minute the first whistle went you could tell that it was just going to be one of the games.

For the goal the corner was an average corner to the back post and then a free header on goal. He had so much time and had to put it in back of the net had no defender no where near him. At times it looked so easy for the to walk through the defence and midfield. We allowed them so much time on the ball and still looked this way when they had ten men.

We never made it look like we had an extra man on the field, and I feel adkins also made mistakes and feel like he should have put Campbell Ryce on as soon as they went down to ten men. Campbell ryce must be kicking him self wondering why he can't get on the pitch he is the man in form and still can't get a good run. They had a man sent off and another player on a yellow at the back why not let campbell come on and run and them and cause then problems and force them into stupid tackles.

Think adams offered very little as well bar from odd decent run from him and beating a few defenders. I know the Lad is still learning the game and don't get me wrong I think he is brilliant when he gets the ball down at his feet but getting it there seems to be a bit of a problem. And think he offers very little in defending he had a good game last home game and scored 2 brilliant goals and can't knock him for that, but today he seemed to be jogging around the pitch half heartedly and not really putting the effort in that he should have and should have been subbed.

Every single game we have to rely on out scoring the opposition. Can't buy a clean sheet at all and Howard seems to get almost the stick for this but don't think he is at fault, I know I have already mentioned Howard but really feel it could have been a lot worse bar from him savings us.

And have just heard on praise or grumble some one ringing up and saying to the United fans that was booing after the match that we don't want you? Well I was one of them people and stand by it, how can they play like that and you want to clap them off the pitch why would you want to clap the players and give them the impression they played well when they was poor from minute go.

Rant over.

Posted this earlier on way back from match but just realised I posted it on general chat instead of blades general chat like a idiot so here it is.
Endorse everything you have said. Sadly I'm now watching the worst team Blades I've ever seen in my life since 1965 and I include the shit when Longhorn played.
 
I do sometimes wonder if it is a lack of effort. I dont think any team worth its salt is going to just roll over. Oldham were putting effort in too which can sometimes mean we cancel each other out. I see it as another point earned. ANYONE can beat ANYONE in this League. Look what happened to Walsall today - turned over at home to Chesterfield. Look what's happening to Swindon they're in freefall and have just sacked boss Mark Cooper.
My glass is still half full as I see it. UTB.
 
I didn't go to the game due to my leg injury therefore I don't feel totally equipped to comment however looking at the stats I don't see a total lack of effort as such but an overall lack of quality.

We had an equal share of possession and we shots in total which was 5 more than the home team!

The main issue is that only 3 (25%) of these shots were on target and it sounds like we missed a few sitters as well.
 
Scougall's played shocking for about a year now, no idea how he still gets a shirt. Far worse than Coutts and he gets some right hammer, same with Baxter.

Didn't go today but when I saw they went down to 10 men I thought it was 3 points in the bag. Then he takes off Done! Our only positive player over the past few weeks o_O

We will finish top 6, but without additions to to both CB and CM we won't finish top 2
 
I do sometimes wonder if it is a lack of effort. I dont think any team worth its salt is going to just roll over. Oldham were putting effort in too which can sometimes mean we cancel each other out. I see it as another point earned. ANYONE can beat ANYONE in this League. Look what happened to Walsall today - turned over at home to Chesterfield. Look what's happening to Swindon they're in freefall and have just sacked boss Mark Cooper.
My glass is still half full as I see it. UTB.
No disrespect but when I read your post the word that jumped into my mind is deluded.
 
What was that just on way home from oldham and what a chance to get 2 points back on Walsall and keep up with the rest of the field.

What a total lack of effort by all the players. Playing ten men and a team 4th bottom with 30 mins to go and still can't put the ball in back of the net.

Not one good player on the pitch bar from Howard. If it wasn't for a brilliant save from Howard we would have lost that match.

How Collins is still wearing a united shirt I don't know. Watching him is so irritating and then he will score a goal and everyone forgets about all his bad mistakes he makes every match. He gives the ball away so easily and doesn't know how to go forward at all. Every single ball he plays he either gives away possession or passes backwards.

Think scougall had a absolute shocker of a game never had the ball at his feet and was far to weak. He had one decent chance that he should have put away but hit the bar.

Can't name one good player on the pitch today. Even done who score a brilliant goal but bar from that offered nothing at all. All round the team had a poor game from the minute the first whistle went you could tell that it was just going to be one of the games.

For the goal the corner was an average corner to the back post and then a free header on goal. He had so much time and had to put it in back of the net had no defender no where near him. At times it looked so easy for the to walk through the defence and midfield. We allowed them so much time on the ball and still looked this way when they had ten men.

We never made it look like we had an extra man on the field, and I feel adkins also made mistakes and feel like he should have put Campbell Ryce on as soon as they went down to ten men. Campbell ryce must be kicking him self wondering why he can't get on the pitch he is the man in form and still can't get a good run. They had a man sent off and another player on a yellow at the back why not let campbell come on and run and them and cause then problems and force them into stupid tackles.

Think adams offered very little as well bar from odd decent run from him and beating a few defenders. I know the Lad is still learning the game and don't get me wrong I think he is brilliant when he gets the ball down at his feet but getting it there seems to be a bit of a problem. And think he offers very little in defending he had a good game last home game and scored 2 brilliant goals and can't knock him for that, but today he seemed to be jogging around the pitch half heartedly and not really putting the effort in that he should have and should have been subbed.

Every single game we have to rely on out scoring the opposition. Can't buy a clean sheet at all and Howard seems to get almost the stick for this but don't think he is at fault, I know I have already mentioned Howard but really feel it could have been a lot worse bar from him savings us.

And have just heard on praise or grumble some one ringing up and saying to the United fans that was booing after the match that we don't want you? Well I was one of them people and stand by it, how can they play like that and you want to clap them off the pitch why would you want to clap the players and give them the impression they played well when they was poor from minute go.

Rant over.

Posted this earlier on way back from match but just realised I posted it on general chat instead of blades general chat like a idiot so here it is.
Collins scored a decent winning goal for us, a mere seven days ago. Well done Neill.
 
I do sometimes wonder if it is a lack of effort. I dont think any team worth its salt is going to just roll over. Oldham were putting effort in too which can sometimes mean we cancel each other out. I see it as another point earned. ANYONE can beat ANYONE in this League. Look what happened to Walsall today - turned over at home to Chesterfield. Look what's happening to Swindon they're in freefall and have just sacked boss Mark Cooper.
My glass is still half full as I see it. UTB.

What you mean Highfield is that we are just an average third division side, can't argue with you there.
 
There is a massive lack of quality, and not always 100% effort from everyone, which is the root of the problem. It's noticeable that frequently players coming on as sub try hard and do well, then when start the following game are nowhere near as effective. Teams do raise there game against us, easy get out I know, but it is true and i do think some our players don't respond, maybe being too complacent and thinking we'll win easy against little old (insert name of club here).
The lack of quality and inconsistencies in players is dreadful. Baxter's freekick was assoundingly bad, putting the ball onto the roof of the stand, but when taking a corner he can't get the ball over the first defender. Today our crossing was dreadful and the number of throw ins that go straight to the opposition.
McGahey played well, looked strong and in control, winning every header. We just have very little pace and Baxter and Basham are not good in midfield together.
It wasn't as bad today as some are making out, but there aren't many signs of improvement and I do fear against half decent teams who press us and have pace, which Oldham didn't really, we will have many more difficult matches this season.
 
I do sometimes wonder if it is a lack of effort. I dont think any team worth its salt is going to just roll over. Oldham were putting effort in too which can sometimes mean we cancel each other out. I see it as another point earned. ANYONE can beat ANYONE in this League. Look what happened to Walsall today - turned over at home to Chesterfield. Look what's happening to Swindon they're in freefall and have just sacked boss Mark Cooper.
My glass is still half full as I see it. UTB.

I'd agree if we were playing well and losing/drawing but even when we're winning we're hardly playing well at all. Rochdale a prime example. At times we were dire.
 
Totally agree that we lacked effort today and unfortunately that is something blades don't accept. Oldham put far more in than us, won the vast majority of individual battles and were generally up for it. Sadly for long periods we weren't. Can accept a lack of quality, after all we are in league one and our lot are mostly league one standard but effort, passion and desire are sadly lacking for us at this moment. Unless this changes we are going nowhere.
 
If I'm honest, that's what I'm saying. Ever the optimist (possibly deluded) I still think we can get out of this league this season. Just need to keep plugging away and picking up points. :)

Hope your right Highfield, we have just got to accept that we are what we are at the moment. Please let Nigel have a plan come January.
 
What was that just on way home from oldham and what a chance to get 2 points back on Walsall and keep up with the rest of the field.

What a total lack of effort by all the players. Playing ten men and a team 4th bottom with 30 mins to go and still can't put the ball in back of the net.

Not one good player on the pitch bar from Howard. If it wasn't for a brilliant save from Howard we would have lost that match.

How Collins is still wearing a united shirt I don't know. Watching him is so irritating and then he will score a goal and everyone forgets about all his bad mistakes he makes every match. He gives the ball away so easily and doesn't know how to go forward at all. Every single ball he plays he either gives away possession or passes backwards.

Think scougall had a absolute shocker of a game never had the ball at his feet and was far to weak. He had one decent chance that he should have put away but hit the bar.

Can't name one good player on the pitch today. Even done who score a brilliant goal but bar from that offered nothing at all. All round the team had a poor game from the minute the first whistle went you could tell that it was just going to be one of the games.

For the goal the corner was an average corner to the back post and then a free header on goal. He had so much time and had to put it in back of the net had no defender no where near him. At times it looked so easy for the to walk through the defence and midfield. We allowed them so much time on the ball and still looked this way when they had ten men.

We never made it look like we had an extra man on the field, and I feel adkins also made mistakes and feel like he should have put Campbell Ryce on as soon as they went down to ten men. Campbell ryce must be kicking him self wondering why he can't get on the pitch he is the man in form and still can't get a good run. They had a man sent off and another player on a yellow at the back why not let campbell come on and run and them and cause then problems and force them into stupid tackles.

Think adams offered very little as well bar from odd decent run from him and beating a few defenders. I know the Lad is still learning the game and don't get me wrong I think he is brilliant when he gets the ball down at his feet but getting it there seems to be a bit of a problem. And think he offers very little in defending he had a good game last home game and scored 2 brilliant goals and can't knock him for that, but today he seemed to be jogging around the pitch half heartedly and not really putting the effort in that he should have and should have been subbed.

Every single game we have to rely on out scoring the opposition. Can't buy a clean sheet at all and Howard seems to get almost the stick for this but don't think he is at fault, I know I have already mentioned Howard but really feel it could have been a lot worse bar from him savings us.

And have just heard on praise or grumble some one ringing up and saying to the United fans that was booing after the match that we don't want you? Well I was one of them people and stand by it, how can they play like that and you want to clap them off the pitch why would you want to clap the players and give them the impression they played well when they was poor from minute go.

Rant over.

Posted this earlier on way back from match but just realised I posted it on general chat instead of blades general chat like a idiot so here it is.

Totally disagree with OP.

The players are clearly trying very hard - sometimes they play too slow at the back, that's about as much as I'd say. First half we were poor, then:
  • Done missed an easy chance.
  • Billy missed a sitter.
  • Scoogs hit the post. I think. Someone did - it was down the other end.
  • Baxter had a free right foot shot from the edge of the box and a harder left foot one.
  • Billy put Che through but he was off balance and couldn't stay on his feet.
  • Scoogs had an air shot from around the penalty.spot, or the edge of the area.
  • Basham.got a free header in at the back post from a set piece, looked like it was.cleared off the line.
All in the second half.

What the fucking hell was that? A team doing pretty much everything but put the ball in the back of the net.
 



To QUOTE="FatLadFromSheffield, post: 852796, member: 16034"]Scougall's played shocking for about a year now, no idea how he still gets a shirt. Far worse than Coutts and he gets some right hammer, same with Baxter.

Didn't go today but when I saw they went down to 10 men I thought it was 3 points in the bag. Then he takes off Done! Our only positive player over the past few weeks o_O

We will finish top 6, but without additions to to both CB and CM we won't finish top 2[/QUOTE]
Without Brayford being fit we need a complete back four .
I thought Baxter would want to go back to Oldham and make a statement wrong I can't defend him no more.
The midfield is a shambles send Scougall back to Scotland somebody will have him on loan.
We are desparate for a central midfielder obviously Coutts is fucked chronically injured shame but that's how it is.
I agree with Ghadi this is the worst side I've seen in 45 years
 
Totally disagree with OP.

The players are clearly trying very hard - sometimes they play too slow at the back, that's about as much as I'd say. First half we were poor, then:
  • Done missed an easy chance.
  • Billy missed a sitter.
  • Scoogs hit the post. I think. Someone did - it was down the other end.
  • Baxter had a free right foot shot from the edge of the box and a harder left foot one.
  • Billy put Che through but he was off balance and couldn't stay on his feet.
  • Scoogs had an air shot from around the penalty.spot, or the edge of the area.
  • Basham.got a free header in at the back post from a set piece, looked like it was.cleared off the line.
All in the second half.

What the fucking hell was that? A team doing pretty much everything but put the ball in the back of the net.
1. Done should have hit the target but I wouldn't call it easy
2 &3. Agree
4,5&6 were openings, not chances
7.Basham headed back across goal, not at goal.
Che also had a strike early second half which was a half chance from distance.
Agree that the tempo we play at is painfully slow but trying very hard? Our energy/ effort/desire levels are being bettered on a regular basis. Even Adkins admits we lose too many individual battles. They can't all be down to statue or talent
 
1. Done should have hit the target but I wouldn't call it easy
2 &3. Agree
4,5&6 were openings, not chances
7.Basham headed back across goal, not at goal.
Che also had a strike early second half which was a half chance from distance.
Agree that the tempo we play at is painfully slow but trying very hard? Our energy/ effort/desire levels are being bettered on a regular basis. Even Adkins admits we lose too many individual battles. They can't all be down to statue or talent

Fairy Nuff. I wasn't saying all these were gilt-edged - but any one of them could have been a goal. The least likely was probably Baxter's left foot effort.

Baxter's right foot shot was a very good chance - he was basically free 20-odd yards out. This is not a dig at him bc he's played well recently. Even though sometimes we wasted time at the back - and that was frustrating we created plenty second half.

What we didn't do was finish.

That was the problem. Not effort. Or Scoogs - who set up the first. Or the Board. Or Collins. Or McEveley.
 
To QUOTE="FatLadFromSheffield, post: 852796, member: 16034"]Scougall's played shocking for about a year now, no idea how he still gets a shirt. Far worse than Coutts and he gets some right hammer, same with Baxter.

Didn't go today but when I saw they went down to 10 men I thought it was 3 points in the bag. Then he takes off Done! Our only positive player over the past few weeks o_O

We will finish top 6, but without additions to to both CB and CM we won't finish top 2
Without Brayford being fit we need a complete back four .
I thought Baxter would want to go back to Oldham and make a statement wrong I can't defend him no more.
The midfield is a shambles send Scougall back to Scotland somebody will have him on loan.
We are desparate for a central midfielder obviously Coutts is fucked chronically injured shame but that's how it is.
I agree with Ghadi this is the worst side I've seen in 45 years[/QUOTE]
What about under Weir? We were atrocious.
 
Totally disagree with OP.

The players are clearly trying very hard - sometimes they play too slow at the back, that's about as much as I'd say. First half we were poor, then:
  • Done missed an easy chance.
  • Billy missed a sitter.
  • Scoogs hit the post. I think. Someone did - it was down the other end.
  • Baxter had a free right foot shot from the edge of the box and a harder left foot one.
  • Billy put Che through but he was off balance and couldn't stay on his feet.
  • Scoogs had an air shot from around the penalty.spot, or the edge of the area.
  • Basham.got a free header in at the back post from a set piece, looked like it was.cleared off the line.
All in the second half.

What the fucking hell was that? A team doing pretty much everything but put the ball in the back of the net.
And you were on here the other day saying (more or less saying) the next three games were "in the bag???" Well that's two points gone!

I love your positivity but I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee - or share with me whatever it is that you are drinking. I was there today too and I didn't see a team "doing pretty much everything but put the ball in the back of the net". Listening to the radio on the way back, I wasn't on my own either.
 
Scougall's played shocking for about a year now, no idea how he still gets a shirt. Far worse than Coutts and he gets some right hammer, same with Baxter.

Why anyone still thinks Scougall is good enough or will ever be good enough boggles the mind, Coutts is finished at any decent level due the injury, and it pains me that we have to still go with Baxter due to the paucity of the rest of the squad! :(
 
Without Brayford being fit we need a complete back four .
I thought Baxter would want to go back to Oldham and make a statement wrong I can't defend him no more.
The midfield is a shambles send Scougall back to Scotland somebody will have him on loan.
We are desparate for a central midfielder obviously Coutts is fucked chronically injured shame but that's how it is.
I agree with Ghadi this is the worst side I've seen in 45 years
What about under Weir? We were atrocious.[/QUOTE]
Can't disagree with that.
I'm fucking punch drunk at the moment
 
I was surprised by the reaction of the fans at the end I must admit and think it is down to a growing feeling amongst the support that players aren't giving their all every game. It's definitely getting more noticeable this season. Previously that game would have caused a lot of grumbles, but not the chanting that it did. During the game the support was great, better than previous matches recently and even after they scored from any unmarked header chants of support started.

I think the fans have now had more than enough of league one and expect the players to be giving their all to get promoted, and rightly or wrongly, maybe a few players are starting to be perceived as not.
Maybe the style of play, lack of pace and players lack of ability isn't helping in this belief, but we have seen too often this season already teams and players being seemingly more commited and outfighting us, with weak or nonexistent challenges from us leading to far too many goals against us.
 
1. Done should have hit the target but I wouldn't call it easy
2 &3. Agree
4,5&6 were openings, not chances
7.Basham headed back across goal, not at goal.
Che also had a strike early second half which was a half chance from distance.
Agree that the tempo we play at is painfully slow but trying very hard? Our energy/ effort/desire levels are being bettered on a regular basis. Even Adkins admits we lose too many individual battles. They can't all be down to statue or talent
Ad to that - Howard made 3 great saves in the first half to keep us in the game, we couldn't pass the ball, first touch control was terrible through out the team, no movement, no one seemed to want to play the easy pass and move, when they went down to 10 men NA didn't have a clue? Sorry to say at times today Cha looked non league, Scougall wanted to run with the ball all the time and kept running into trouble, Baxter was slow, Basham is not a midfield player and Sammon w*** *** ****!
 
And you were on here the other day saying (more or less saying) the next three games were "in the bag???"

Find that post. Each game as it comes. Always.

The post isn't positive - or negative it's just, aisi, a realistic appraisal of what actually went wrong today. It wasn't lack of effort or anyone's favourite scapegoat - Scoogs and Billy were targets around us today at least till Scoogs set up the first - it was bc we didn't put the ball in the back of the net.
 
I was surprised by the reaction of the fans at the end I must admit and think it is down to a growing feeling amongst the support that players aren't giving their all every game. It's definitely getting more noticeable this season. Previously that game would have caused a lot of grumbles, but not the chanting that it did.

There was exactly the same reaction from some people present at the Scunthorpe away game last season.

Fans is not the right word. Supporters definitely isn't.
 
Didnt go but from seems we didnt play well from tweets & posts on here of them in person, but that jekyell & hyde home & away form just seems to be norm for us at the moment because pre Oldham it was 11 goals in last 3 at home but only 3 in 3 away. Which I dont understand how a team just change from lane to away grounds

But from the entire game I heard on RS I thought we werent as bad as was made out because we shouldve won as was 2pts dropped when we missed those 3 sitters in the second half & then we wouldve been joint 5th pts. 4 pts off top & 2 off auto
 
Without Brayford being fit we need a complete back four .
I thought Baxter would want to go back to Oldham and make a statement wrong I can't defend him no more.
The midfield is a shambles send Scougall back to Scotland somebody will have him on loan.
We are desparate for a central midfielder obviously Coutts is fucked chronically injured shame but that's how it is.
I agree with Ghadi this is the worst side I've seen in 45 years
What about under Weir? We were atrocious.[/QUOTE]
Spooky. Went to my first game in November 1970. Hard to disagree that we are crap at the moment. Just think it will take some minor adjustments to get us in the top two.
 



There was exactly the same reaction from some people present at the Scunthorpe away game last season.

Fans is not the right word. Supporters definitely isn't.

Can't agree, WHF. After 53 years I've certainly put the hard miles in for this club but yesterday - for the first time - I was totally indifferent to the events in another scuzzy northern town. A bit like the players, really.
 

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