Was it a dive from Che?

[stannyblade]

If it was a dive then Mr Adkins should fine him the maximum amount that he is able to do. To go down instead of shooting is a crime. My thought on the kop was penalty and the ref bottled it but we will see

 

[James Boreman]

Chés reaction would suggest not. He couldn't believe it, even tweeted about it after.
Their red looked very harsh though..

 

[loyalblade95]

Dived cos looks like centre half tried to bring him down on his right foot so he couldn't shoot with his right so he went down to try and get a penalty

 

[Bladesman]

His team mates reckon it was a dive.

 

[blade67]

His team mates reckon it was a dive.

I thought it was a penalty from my view behind the goal, good to see his team mates taking the Mick, exactly as it should be

 

[PeteBlade]

He certainly doesn't think so

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

His team mates reckon it was a dive.

One of the reasons I really like Twitter is the chance to see exchanges like this.

I first really noticed it a few years.ago with the England cricket team.

You get a literally immediate sense of the players, ie there is no media, no dead hand of uninformative formulaic PR. It occasionally goes awry but for me the benefits hugely outweigh any costs.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Chés reaction would suggest not. He couldn't believe it, even tweeted about it after.
Their red looked very harsh though..

Agree about their red. I think Alcock played the ref there. Will maybe see on highlights later.

 

[oaklandrdblade]

Agree about their red. I think Alcock played the ref there. Will maybe see on highlights later.

Yet he had to go off injured?

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Very harsh to say that but I guess someone has to be the least performing player...

Are we suddenly talking about Bash ?

 

[Jehovah]

I couldn't go today and haven't seen it, but it was clearly a penalty.

 

[SwissBlade]

Didn't think Che dived
Didn't see their man get red carded, i was watching the aftermath of Collins v Butler. Ref had just spoken to the pair of them so I watched them as the corner came in. Butler shrugged off Colins, they both chased into the box as the ball came in. Collins' last ditch attempt to stop butler getting to the ball by dragging butler back by the throat and hauling him down. Definite penalty if the ref had watched. Instead he sent another player off. We got away with that.

 

[Kian_barlow00]

Saw it from a distance but wondering if it was a dive or did the ref bottle having to send a second player off?

It wasn't a dive, I agree on the ref not wanting to send another player off but there was definitely some contact

 

[blade67]

I couldn't go today and haven't seen it, but it was clearly a penalty.

favourite post yet on S24SU, bladesmad used to be full of irony of this nature

At least I think they were being ironic

 

[sitwell]

I couldn't tell, but if he dived I have to ask why because he beat the full back and just needed to pull the trigger bang in front of goal

Hes been practising whiles hes been away with the premiership players with England.

 

[Bedrock Blade]

I couldn't go today and haven't seen it, but it was clearly a penalty.

Yep. A blatant penalty. Even with the 5 minute Blades Player delay.

 

[Blade56]

Looked a Deffo penalty to me but I've got some very damning photographic evidence from where I was that casts doubt..........

 

[AlienBlade]

Having watched the c5 show the red card was a definite. If you watch how he goes in thats dangerous play... then where he hits a jumping alcock (chest) shows his foot is high (Kilgallon was sent off against those at s6 for a lower foot)

I personally thought it was a penalty but havent seen any replays.

 

[secretchief]

Didn't think Che dived
Didn't see their man get red carded, i was watching the aftermath of Collins v Butler. Ref had just spoken to the pair of them so I watched them as the corner came in. Butler shrugged off Colins, they both chased into the box as the ball came in. Collins' last ditch attempt to stop butler getting to the ball by dragging butler back by the throat and hauling him down. Definite penalty if the ref had watched. Instead he sent another player off. We got away with that.

I thought exactly the same thing at the time and had forgotten it until you mentioned it.

 

[Chali 2na]

There was clearly contact, it was a definite penalty. I think the manner in which Che went down (overly theatrical) swayed the ref.

 

[JohnDenver]

From one live view - dive. Might have been a little contact but the fall appeared totally out of synch with the challenge.

 

[Punk Blade]

Agree about their red. I think Alcock played the ref there. Will maybe see on highlights later.

Alcock played the ball. Their man played Alcock. The ref played a red card. Nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Maybe it was a "dive" *and* a penalty.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

From one live view - dive. Might have been a little contact but the fall appeared totally out of synch with the challenge.

Contact = penalty
Not enough to send him flying = "dive"

Players often "dive" because if they don't throw themselves to the ground they don't get the free kick, even if it was a foul.

 

[BushBlade]

favourite post yet on S24SU, bladesmad used to be full of irony of this nature

At least I think they were being ironic

It was always a good place to go if you wanted to know what Edwards had said about us.

 

[JohnDenver]

Alcock played the ball. Their man played Alcock. The ref played a red card. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Having seen it on TV it's actually worse than it appeared live. The guy was miles away from winning the ball, and I've absolutely no clue what he was attempting to achieve by going in at waist height when the ball was above head height.

If he was a defender trying to hook the ball away, and he hadn't know an opponent was coming in, then I'd say yellow. But he had no reason to address the ball as he did. It just looks like an assault.

 

[JohnDenver]

Contact = penalty
Not enough to send him flying = "dive"

Players often "dive" because if they don't throw themselves to the ground they don't get the free kick, even if it was a foul.

True. I thought it likely he'd been touched, but the fall looked like an afterthought. And if you have time to think about your fall then you probably weren't that inconvenienced by the contact. Someone with BladesPlayer can have a look at the match vid and let me know.

 

[UnitedBlade]

There was clearly contact, it was a definite penalty. I think the manner in which Che went down (overly theatrical) swayed the ref.

I have a problem with this because it is a referee deliberately ignoring Law 12.

If there's contact first (and again I've only seen it in real time and I thought there was contact) then any "dive" is irrelevant.

Maybe it'll be proved there was no contact but it looked like there was to me.

 

[Whiston Blade]

I have a problem with this because it is a referee deliberately ignoring Law 12.

If there's contact first (and again I've only seen it in real time and I thought there was contact) then any "dive" is irrelevant.

Maybe it'll be proved there was no contact but it looked like there was to me.

Then maybe players should remember Law 12 and just go down without the ott flying arms and stiff legs/rolls...

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I have a problem with this because it is a referee deliberately ignoring Law 12.

If there's contact first (and again I've only seen it in real time and I thought there was contact) then any "dive" is irrelevant.

Maybe it'll be proved there was no contact but it looked like there was to me.

But, as I may have mentioned, maybe there was contact *and* a "dive".

Afaik no referee has ever yet given both.

In the ref's mind minimal contact, maximal theatrics = booking. Even though the contact should be a penalty.

Fwiw I reckon he was.tripped at speed and the ref got.it wrong.