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I've been saying this for about 3-4 years, prioritise everything on promotion. The cup runs were great fun and very exciting, but we're still in this division, and it's dismal, we've become a division 1 fixture, and that's a dreadful indictment of what we've become. I know there's an argument for winning every game, and it's a compelling argument, but I think we'd suffer if we chose to go down that route.

Of course, our current place in this division isn't written in stone, but please, please, please, let's keep our best resources for a promotion push. In terms of our aims and objectives, we really have no other reason than to aim for a place in the division above. Once achieved we'll be able to attract far better players, and isn't that the difference between those who are resigned to their fate and those who have ambition and aspiration?
 
[QUOTE="itsinyerblood, post: 816618, member: 12408"let's keep our best resources for a promotion push[/QUOTE]

and the Fans should have the info to be able to do the same

Maybe Jim should tweet when we are trying to win ................ or not
 
away ends always empty. said:
As much as I love cup runs the league as got to be priorty this season , so I would gladly sacrifice all cups for promotion keeping players fresh and focused.
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Losing is for losers.

We can put out a good team for Fulham and the one we put together driving home from what is available is still good enough to give Fulham a game of their own patch.

4 unbeaten - keep it going.

UTB
 
itsinyerblood said:
I've been saying this for about 3-4 years, prioritise everything on promotion. The cup runs were great fun and very exciting, but we're still in this division, and it's dismal, we've become a division 1 fixture, and that's a dreadful indictment of what we've become. I know there's an argument for winning every game, and it's a compelling argument, but I think we'd suffer if we chose to go down that route.

Of course, our current place in this division isn't written in stone, but please, please, please, let's keep our best resources for a promotion push. In terms of our aims and objectives, we really have no other reason than to aim for a place in the division above. Once achieved we'll be able to attract far better players, and isn't that the difference between those who are resigned to their fate and those who have ambition and aspiration?
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I love the cups but I agree - we've paid a price for cup runs.

So I'd suggest we need to see plenty of this lot playing in the early rounds. If we progress then strengthen it up.

Long
Kennedy(?)
Mcfadzean
Wallace K
Wallace J
DeGirolamo
Reed
Woolford
Mcnulty
Higdon
 
I'd make a few changes and rest certain players but by all means go for it. As Worksop II says: never take your foot off the pedal
 
Worksop II said:
[QUOTE="itsinyerblood, post: 816618, member: 12408"let's keep our best resources for a promotion push
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and the Fans should have the info to be able to do the same

Maybe Jim should tweet when we are trying to win ................ or not[/QUOTE]

Let me rephrase, I'm not suggesting we shouldn't strive to win each game we enter. Just employ a different strategy, throw a healthy number of young hopefuls into the fray and see how they perform, it might surprise us in a positive way, it might also keep some of our senior players fresh for the games that will truly make a difference to this club's fortunes.
 
JohnDenver said:
I love the cups but I agree - we've paid a price for cup runs.

So I'd suggest we need to see plenty of this lot playing in the early rounds. If we progress then strengthen it up.

Long
Kennedy(?)
Mcfadzean
Wallace K
Wallace J
DeGirolamo
Reed
Woolford
Mcnulty
Higdon
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a 4-3-3 with Reed, Wallace and Woolford and front 3 of Geronimo, Higdon and Mcnuts - surely enough to frighten a team who pretty much shit last season and are now 4th from bottom.

What's the problem? Go and turn them over AGAIN !

Fans say we have a large squad and this is when it comes into it's own. Pull a big club next round and it's quids in.

and just to conclude, I hate bloody losing........

UTB
 



Liaminho9 said:
Yeh that cup run in Cloughs first season didn't help us in the league at all... And that £1m+ we got from it totally wasn't worth it
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There's substance in what you say Liam, but even though a million quid is welcome, we're still in Division 1. That should tell all of us that we've not progressed as much as we would have liked. Of course picking positives from a cup run isn't that difficult, it was enthralling, games such as the Villa match were superb etc, etc, etc. I don't have regrets about that season, but I do think we should have employed some joined up thinking in order to construct a plan that would have taken us forward. If all we want is to look backwards, have lovely memories, reflect on how well we played in specific games etc then we should continue as we've done.

Personally I feel there's now a more savvy approach within the club to taking us forward. By all means let's have a great cup run, even win a cup or cups if possible, but for now, while we're mired in this poxy division, let's prioritise, let's aim to get promoted, then we can consolidate, strengthen, and make further aims possible, and then, who knows, we might even achieve promotion to the Premiership?
 
I think it was important to go and win at Morecambe to kick start the season, banish the Gillingham result and to improve the defence. This game is less important, the focus should be on Swindon.
 
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Assuming Collins is still unfit for Swindon I'd play the same back five, the more games they play together the better imo.

I wouldn't risk Basham, with the lack of fit cover in both cm and ch we just couldn't afford to lose him to injury.

Given McNult's goal yesterday, I'd probably give him a run out and maybe rest Che.

Be interesting to see how strong a team Fulham put out.
 
JohnDenver said:
I love the cups but I agree - we've paid a price for cup runs.

So I'd suggest we need to see plenty of this lot playing in the early rounds. If we progress then strengthen it up.

Long
Kennedy(?)
Mcfadzean
Wallace K
Wallace J
DeGirolamo
Reed
Woolford
Mcnulty
Higdon
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Not sure about Wallace J, I got the impression that NA is taking it gently with him to get him back to full fitness, if he isn't deemed strong enough to do 90 minutes against Blackpool it would be a bit of a risk starting him in what most of us realise is not as important a match. If he is good for 90 minutes, I'd rather see him start against Swindon. If McGahey is fit he needs to be in there and Alcock at left back (seeing as you were starting us with10):rolleyes:
 
Paulus said:
Not sure about Wallace J, I got the impression that NA is taking it gently with him to get him back to full fitness, if he isn't deemed strong enough to do 90 minutes against Blackpool it would be a bit of a risk starting him in what most of us realise is not as important a match. If he is good for 90 minutes, I'd rather see him start against Swindon. If McGahey is fit he needs to be in there and Alcock at left back (seeing as you were starting us with10):rolleyes:
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I thought those two were crocked? It wasn't a suggested XI. :)
 
You might be right,I thought I had heard on one of NA's interviews that they were back in training last week. Ah... me getting ahead of myself.
 
away ends always empty. said:
As much as I love cup runs the league as got to be priorty this season , so I would gladly sacrifice all cups for promotion keeping players fresh and focused.
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Let some of the younger players have a run out against Fulham. A cup run is brilliant but realistically would we ever win it? That said every round is extra revenue for the club.
 
Bladesman said:
Let some of the younger players have a run out against Fulham. A cup run is brilliant but realistically would we ever win it? That said every round is extra revenue for the club.
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Cost/Benefit: The cup revenue is only worth it if it can pay for a replacement player for whoever gets injured. Isn't it?

I think we're picking up all sorts of knocks. Send out the kiddiewinks.
 
William Henry Foulkes said:
Cost/Benefit: The cup revenue is only worth it if it can pay for a replacement player for whoever gets injured. Isn't it?

I think we're picking up all sorts of knocks. Send out the kiddiewinks.
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I think with our injury record at the moment then putting out a weakened side is probably the best thing to do.
 
itsinyerblood said:
There's substance in what you say Liam, but even though a million quid is welcome, we're still in Division 1. That should tell all of us that we've not progressed as much as we would have liked. Of course picking positives from a cup run isn't that difficult, it was enthralling, games such as the Villa match were superb etc, etc, etc. I don't have regrets about that season, but I do think we should have employed some joined up thinking in order to construct a plan that would have taken us forward. If all we want is to look backwards, have lovely memories, reflect on how well we played in specific games etc then we should continue as we've done.

Personally I feel there's now a more savvy approach within the club to taking us forward. By all means let's have a great cup run, even win a cup or cups if possible, but for now, while we're mired in this poxy division, let's prioritise, let's aim to get promoted, then we can consolidate, strengthen, and make further aims possible, and then, who knows, we might even achieve promotion to the Premiership?
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Of course Promotion has to be our ultimate aim this season, but I do think the 2 can go hand in hand. Brayford would be prime example for me, it was the fans and the club during that cup run that made him fall in love with Sheffield United. It's helped us attract a top Championship Player, who is now choosing to play for us and, if rumours are true, earn less money doing so because the memories we've given him.
 
I'd like to see rotation in the forward positions and in midfield, whilst the defence stays more or less the same so they have more game time to gel. Higdon and McNulty up front, give Woolford a start, rest Adams, Sharp, Sammon at least.

No reason we can't make changes but also want to win the game.
 



Liaminho9 said:
Of course Promotion has to be our ultimate aim this season, but I do think the 2 can go hand in hand. Brayford would be prime example for me, it was the fans and the club during that cup run that made him fall in love with Sheffield United. It's helped us attract a top Championship Player, who is now choosing to play for us and, if rumours are true, earn less money doing so because the memories we've given him.
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I hope you're right, but if recent history has any worth then I think the club would be foolish to ignore the last five years or so. To repeat, yes, let's attempt to do as well as we can in all competitions, but let's not risk all of our first team on each and every competition. Should we get to a quarter or semi-final then we may consider including those players we've purposefully not included. I'm not disagreeing about the circumstances surrounding Brayford's arrival at United, but with all that love we're still in the same division...I guess that love will only take us so far, and what I'm sure we both hope for is a season when we finally achieve a long overdue promotion. Should that happen we might then see better quality players consider us as a club worth coming to, which is a principle difference between Div.1 and the Championship.
 
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