CONFIRMED Jamie Murphy sold to Brighton & Hove Albion

[Fulwood Blade]

if they were insisting on a release clause the club should have told them to do one, what a stupid clause from the clubs point of view, basically, if you do well then we'll let you leave but if your shit we're stuck with you.

Im already very dissapointed with the transfers this summer and if Murphy goes Ill be royaly pissed off

and what if Murphy's agent insisted on a release clause before signing? Do you know? I don't.

UTB

 

[Barney]

Jesus. How long have you been a Blade? Because anyone who's been a Blade longer than 2 minutes knows that isn't going to happen.

The potential is there. I don't trust the club, who does?

But I trust Adkins, a very well respected and reputable manager, best we've had in years, to go and get a better player. Why did we hire him if we arn't going to trust him based on countless petty little mistakes that have happened in the past?

Learn from your mistakes, and put them right. Don't dwell on them.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

We shouldn't conduct our transfer business whilst dwelling on how selling players hasn't worked out in the past.

So, are you saying that we shouldn't learn from past experience?

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

 

[Worksop II]

Learn from your mistakes, and put them right. Don't dwell on them.

Noo, Nooo, Noooo, keep making the same one, over and over again

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

Learn from your mistakes, and put them right..

An argument for not selling him, then.

 

[Zlatan]

For the record, I would still view selling at £2.2m as a bad deal for us.

Mainly because if the money is re-invested it will be spent on a few average players, as it always seems to be. We never learn.

 

[Ted Danson]

so you would have told Murphy to do one... and then lost him anyway... (I suppose you would have then whined about the club not doing everything they could to get him signed up...)

and what if Murphy's agent insisted on a release clause before signing? Do you know? I don't.

UTB

Yes Id of told him to do one or not offered him the contract, if theyre insisting on a release clause then they're not commited to the club. Whats the point of signing good players and building a team if they can all fuck off at the wiff of a few extra quid.

I dont trust Adkins and I dont trust the board, yet another sodding transition season is on the cards, fucking great!

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Jones, Birchenall, Salmons, Currie, Hamson, Edwards, Stainrod, Sabella, Ward, Blake, Holdwsorth, Deane, Fjortoft, Jagielka, Walker/Naughton, Blackman, McDonald, Maguire, .... all worked out better in the long run, didn't they?



Since 1992/93 on transfers we've:

spent: £44,600,000
received: £57,800,000

net receipt in transfers: £13,200,000.

Of the current teams in the premier league, only 2 (S'oton and Watford) have positive net receipts.

Of the current teams in the championship, only Reading and Blackburn of the teams that have been in the premiership in the last 10 years have positive receipts on transfers.

Basically, there's a pretty good correlation between a club's league position and it's transfer investment. The more a club receives in comparison to what it spends, the lower in the league the club stands. (i.e. clubs stay low because they uncover talent, and flog it on for big fees to more successful clubs).


United's firmly puts us in .... well, where we are.... the third tier.


Transfer receipts are therefore not the means to finance a club if you want it to become successful. You have to spend more than you receive, and find your running costs from elsewhere.

..........and how did Liverpool, that truly MASSIVE premier league team go on with Raheem Stirling?

They sold him - it's a players/agents market now.

UTB

 

[Barney]

So, are you saying that we shouldn't learn from past experience?

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Ok, so you fail a task, like we have done before in selling players.
You can either:

A) Avoid the task as much as possible, shy away and generally not achieve much in the way of solving where you went wrong.
B) Repeat the task - repeating your mistakes.
C) Repeat the task - learning from your mistakes from past experiences and putting them right.

I'd go for C because I believe Adkins is capable of it but each to their own I suppose.

 

[Mustela Putorius Furo]

..........and how did Liverpool, that truly MASSIVE premier league team go on with Raheem Stirling?

They sold him - it's a players/agents market now.

UTB

That's not really addressing the point though is it .... but Murphy hasn't thrown a strop on twitter, telling everyone he isn't signing a new contract - because he's got one with a good length left. So we don't need to sell him for anything other than financial reasons - got bugger all to do with agents and the market power.

And I'll guarantee that every penny of what L'pool received for Sterling will go on new players.

 

[bartman]

Ok, so you fail a task, like we have done before in selling players.
You can either:

A) Avoid the task as much as possible, shy away and generally not achieve much in the way of solving where you went wrong.
B) Repeat the task - repeating your mistakes.
C) Repeat the task - learning from your mistakes from past experiences and putting them right.

I'd go for C but each to their own I suppose.

You are correct but who is going to fund option 'c' ?

 

[WeareBlades]

Already here Weare, Woolford

Bloody hope not. Can't say I would be surprised though.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

Ok, so you fail a task, like we have done before in selling players.
You can either:

A) Avoid the task as much as possible, shy away and generally not achieve much in the way of solving where you went wrong.
B) Repeat the task - repeating your mistakes.
C) Repeat the task - learning from your mistakes from past experiences and putting them right.

I'd go for C because I believe Adkins is capable of it but each to their own I suppose.

I don't know what you're talking about, to be honest.

 

[Esablade]

Mainly because if the money is re-invested it will be spent on a few average players, as it always seems to be. We never learn.

Do you think the Harry money went towards getting the Beard in?
Most would have agreed (before he came back) that he isn' an average L1 player...

 

[bartman]

That's not really addressing the point though is it .... but Murphy hasn't thrown a strop on twitter, telling everyone he isn't signing a new contract - because he's got one with a good length left. So we don't need to sell him for anything other than financial reasons - got bugger all to do with agents and the market power.

And I'll guarantee that every penny of what L'pool received for Sterling will go on new players.

Brendan Rogers spending more money without success ? Oh dear

 

[BushBlade]

If Murphy has a release clause in his contract it makes Adkins look like a massive twat for his going nowhere comment.

 

[Mustela Putorius Furo]

Brendan Rogers spending more money without success ? Oh dear

Yeah they'll finish 5th instead of 4th. Fucking Rubbish

 

[Barney]

You are correct but who is going to fund option 'c' ?

Our 'game-changing' board.

 

[robbiez666]

I'm confused why anyone would be unhappy to not let Murphy have a £2.2 million release clause whilst we're in this division.

I'd have not cared if we'd have got that for Macdonald

 

[LoughboroBlade]

..........and how did Liverpool, that truly MASSIVE premier league team go on with Raheem Stirling?

They sold him - it's a players/agents market now.

UTB

They sold him for a ridiculous fee that Liverpool would have been mad to turn down. I'll wait to see the Murphy fee, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't really comparable.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Yes Id of told him to do one or not offered him the contract, if theyre insisting on a release clause then they're not commited to the club. Whats the point of signing good players and building a team if they can all fuck off at the wiff of a few extra quid.

I dont trust Adkins and I dont trust the board, yet another sodding transition season is on the cards, fucking great!

I am not disagreeing with anyone about the upset it will cause - but, no one knows what the deal is or if a release clause has been triggered.

We have to wait until all the details are out but to rubbish the club now on speculation is a bit premature.

UTB

 

[Mustela Putorius Furo]

If Murphy has a release clause in his contract it makes Adkins look like a massive twat for his going nowhere comment.

No it makes our contract negotiators absolute twats for still following the "lets make money on transfers.... and stay mediocre forever" policy.

 

[bricktop]

In Blades speak, his replacement is already at the Club, Martyn Woolford = Free

In all the fairness the only thing that Martyn Woolford could ever be a satisfactory replacement for is a traffic bollard

 

[Fulwood Blade]

That's not really addressing the point though is it .... but Murphy hasn't thrown a strop on twitter, telling everyone he isn't signing a new contract - because he's got one with a good length left. So we don't need to sell him for anything other than financial reasons - got bugger all to do with agents and the market power.

And I'll guarantee that every penny of what L'pool received for Sterling will go on new players.

You are completely and utterly dismissing the fact that there might be a release clause.

SUFC may NOT have an option but to let Brighton talk to Murphy.

UTB

 

[Barney]

I don't know what you're talking about, to be honest.

If you don't face up to where you went wrong, you don't learn, you just cause more problems for yourselves.

It's a cycle whereby one thinks they are doing the right thing by avoiding a task they have failed at in the past. That is absolutely the wrong attitude to have, you need to re-visit where you went wrong, and put it right. That's the only way you learn. You don't learn from avoidance, it's just an easy way out for the board and frankly does more harm than good.

 

[BushBlade]

No it makes our contract negotiators absolute twats for still following the "lets make money on transfers.... and stay mediocre forever" policy.

I don't dispute your point but in no way does it negate mine.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

If you don't face up to where you went wrong, you don't learn, you just cause more problems for yourselves.

It's a cycle whereby one thinks they are doing the right thing by avoiding a task they have failed at in the past. That is absolutely the wrong attitude to have, you need to re-visit where you went wrong, and put it right. That's the only way you learn. You don't learn from avoidance, it's just an easy way out for the board and frankly does more harm than good.

The "task" appears to involve either selling him or not selling him. So, I'll go with Option A - avoid the task.

 

[Rodders]

Has he gone yet?

 

[Barney]

The "task" appears to involve either selling him or not selling him. So, I'll go with Option A - avoid the task.

Well then me and you sir, have different outlooks on attitudes to the world.

 

[Caseh]

I love how our fans go into absolute melt down at the flip of a switch. It's brilliant to watch.